― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)
am i alone in thinking that peel is turning into as big and arrogant a shit as moyles? some of the patter he gives to his wife on air is worthy of the taliban.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― mzui, Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)
But what does it say of Britain and the BBC that they have to hire a celebrity Yank as a stand in.
Peel is 65 this August - what happens re: contingency planning for his long term replacement.
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:02 (twenty-two years ago)
Which admitted does throw Radio One's hiring policy into even more confusion.
― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)
westwood's show might as well be called the jay-z/50 cent show these days.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:21 (twenty-two years ago)
1. John Peel is the only DJ who has completely free-reign over what he plays.
2. No wonder he plays the wrong song every so often. You would too if you got sent 50 demos a day every day and still had to find the time to listen to new music.
3. So he's older than his audience.. so what?
4. He isn't "anti-pop" he just doesn't play much pop music because that is his job. It's like complaining that Trevor Nelson doesn't play enough metal. Anyway, what the fuck were the Cuban Boys about? Like it or not, that shows he has a pop sense of humour (albeit twisted).
5. Shut up.
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)
And his idea of choosing what he plays runs pretty much along the lines of "will anybody else play it? No - then I shall champion it".
― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)
go back to slitting your wrists to the ailing tune of crawling king snake or something.
anyway, one shudders to think what a mess elijah wood will make of the programme.
"uuuuuhhhhhh...this is...uuuhhhh...like...uuuhhhhhhh....thuh...mountain....uhhhh...like....goats...duuuudes.....uuuuuhhhhhhhhh."
couldn't they get eli woods to do it instead (if he's still alive?).
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)
that kind of being the point of the bbc licence.
if anyone wants to hear state-approved pop 24/7 there's always capital.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)
prolonged exposure to ilm would be enough to turn anyone anti-pop.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)
COME ON THEN!
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― european son, Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)
they would be right about that.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)
stevem i think you'll find that "Your Woman" was recorded by White Town not White Castle.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)
Pash - haha, don't make me revive this thread.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)
BOOOOO!!!!!
THINK YOU'RE F*CKIN SHADWELL YOU RUNT?!!
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)
told you once before and i won't tell you no more GET DOWN GET DOWN GET DOWN!
or you won't get any of my burger king leftovers for your tea tonight (only eaten once)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)
worked with lauren at 6music when she was covering for Phill Jupitus, she was *great*...
― stevie (stevie), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)
are they all live albums?
― chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)
"oh thank heavens they recovered my stolen harp!"
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)
as in HI Kid JENsen here ALways PUTting the EMphasis on the WRONG SYLLable alRIGHT we've GOT NOO SESSions toNIGHT from HowARD Jones and the CACK-TOW TWINS!
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)
Both L. Laverne (who is about as big as the french fry in PJ's lunch) and S. Cox are extremely nice women but let's stand aside for the other 60something 1fm DJ, Miss Annie Nightingale! The one that talks about shagging is Z. Ball.
Ed and I saw J. Peel in the hospitality area at Sonar, passed out from la bouze. This was not pretty.
― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)
-- Marcello Carlin (marcelloc
Actually this, and gareth's stuff about eclecticism reminds me, when I was a little part of this tiny synthesiser music scene in the '80's, several of the other people who were in it scraped up and managed to self-release 12" vinyl albums, people like this, for example. It was all really deeply unfashionable, and off the map -thirty- and forty-something men making funny-peculiar music on home-built analog synthesisers. Despite people sending their albums to Peel, I don't recall them ever getting any airplay. OTOH, The kind of rump ot that scene is still around in its tiny way - people knocking off phaedra on arturia moog modular & g-media m-tron, which is kind of a lot less phun, but still, when I used to listen to Radcliffe's evening show on radio 1, he did actually play some of this stuff that people had sent him. Obv, it could just be that radcliffe liked it, and peel didn't, but discovering radcliffe's evening show, and hearing the difference between his seemingly genuine love of the music he played, and at the time peel's dreary dutiful take on stuff is what made me go off him a lot.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)
whats a gatekeeper btw? is that like, some sort of tastemaker who by way of trying to inform, ends up dictating taste to a rather small audience who arent quite as important or of the now as perhaps they think they are?
well, if thats the definition, then yeah i agree, ILXJohn Peel definately has this gatekeeper status.
― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 13 May 2004 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)
To me, a gatekeeper is one who decides who gets in, and by extension, decides who is kept out.
Sure, a small internet list has as much "gatekeeper status" in the real world as a national radio dj.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 13 May 2004 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 13 May 2004 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 14 May 2004 07:36 (twenty-two years ago)
peel is hardly the ultimate ILx hate figure. he's about 50 laps behind the petridish and the collective personnel of p'fork.
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 07:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 07:49 (twenty-two years ago)
I must admit I have only listened to Home Truths a couple of times and I don't see the appeal. It leaves me cold. Quite liked his Radio Times column tho. Peel should prolly write more. Sometimes when you listen to him speak on the radio his style sounds more like a written style....maybe that's just cos its in stark contrast to the shouty, "aren't we having so much fun" style which you get from daytime Radio 1.
― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 14 May 2004 07:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 14 May 2004 07:52 (twenty-two years ago)
peel was where people had to go for a number of things, and if he wasnt playing your record, you were missing out on the main outlet for your stuff. that, surely, is the epitome of gatekeeper (nb, this, in itself, is not a criticism of peel at all, merely how the land lay at that time)
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 14 May 2004 07:55 (twenty-two years ago)
it is in keeping with mr petridish's mouldy opinions.
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 08:03 (twenty-two years ago)
*Write something terrible.
― Pete (Pete), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew L (Andrew L), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:15 (twenty-two years ago)
we should therefore all have our own shows, playing what we like, and listened to only by our good selves. that's demographics in action for you.
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 08:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:27 (twenty-two years ago)
my radio 'show' launches online soon
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:28 (twenty-two years ago)
marvellous metaphor G :)
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 08:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 08:32 (twenty-two years ago)
Yet, how could I hate someone who has throughout the years championed Viv Stanshall, The Fall, Lee Perry, Kenickie and Ronnie Ronalde? ;)There may have been much indifferent music - very true, as someone says above, that no-one's ever going to like all he plays - but overall his contribution to British music has been considerable. People say he does not play much Jazz; he plays weekly (or daily) jazz 78s from the 20s/30s... Hardly a crowd-pleasing or 'indie' gesture, if not revolutionary either. The bloke may not be into free jazz or improv, but that isn't going to be for everybody, and it must be remembered that he has always supported Soft Machine and Robert Wyatt. I first heard Wyatt on Peel's show and this had a cumulative effect of opening me up to Jazz.
It's not his remit to be playing pop, obviously; why should it be when you look at the rest of R1? ILMers ought to realise they're not going to easily get a show that plays Spears and Spearmint, or National radio establishes such barriers, and as Marcello implies, you can listen to music in whatever order of your own accord, so what's the need to have a music radio show of exactly your taste?
And how people see him as being 'offensive' to his wife is beyond me; he was always referred to her as such with seeming affection. It sounds to me bizarre that this would certainly take on an unsavoury edge... but then I don't listen to the show often.
Overall, I am pro-Peel; where else on national radio channels are you going to get 30s jazz, dub and Half Man Half Biscuit?
― Tom May (Tom May), Friday, 14 May 2004 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tom May (Tom May), Friday, 14 May 2004 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 14 May 2005 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)
is there a link to this? sorry if it's easy to find, i'm lazy. ;-)
― nathalie's baby (stevie nixed), Saturday, 14 May 2005 08:35 (twenty-one years ago)
-- suzy (theartskooldisk...), May 13th, 2004
vs.
Aw, I'm all filling up. Last time I saw him he was passed out on one of the cushions backstage at Sonar, surrounded by his wife and huge family. :.......(-- suzy (theartskooldisk...), October 26th, 2004.
I guess you don't know what you've got until it's gone, etc.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 14 May 2005 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Saturday, 14 May 2005 11:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 14 May 2005 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)
― nathalie's pocket revolution (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)
'There is no way that single, non-related people could live in the same home and not be having sex. Therefore, Elijah is clearly gay.'
― jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)