Is happiness for assholes?

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Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, I didn't even see the "flying is for assholes" thread before I posted this, I swear.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I hope not, I aspire to be happy.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I was going to say, rah for happiness! It's a fine state. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

nah, but bitterness is.

Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I feel quite happy. But sometimes I worry that I might be an asshole. So maybe my answer is yes.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know about happiness. Most of the assholes I know are mostly "smugly complacent" or "blissfully ignorant". Maybe that's happiness, I don't know. I'm pretty happy and I'm not a duck.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)

not a dick. DICK

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, but can only assholes reach true happiness, because they get to ignore pesky, distracting things like justice, compassion, empathy, etc.?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I think your definition of true happiness is wanting.

QUOTATIONS FROM CHAIRMAN YAYO (hstencil), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Aim contentment rather than 'happiness'.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Gear!, I firmly believe you are not a duck.

Mike, surely you can still be happy and care about that. The amount of stupidity and injustice in the world IS overwhelming and there's much to despair over and hate. And yet, I'm generally a sunny person and feel pretty content over most things. I'm hardly PERFECT on the point but still.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

the Dalai Lama seems pretty happy for a dude concerned with the long-term suffering of his people.

CHAIRMAN, QUOTATIONS, MAYO (hstencil), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

yesterday I told H. that I think if the Dalai Lama had to take over my classes here in the last week of school he'd be screaming 'goddamn lil' sons of bitches!' in no time.

Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I think your definition of true happiness is wanting.

I wasn't actually defining happiness so much as outlining one possible way of attaining happiness.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I think if'you've never gone through adversity and coasted through life early on, you're less likely that have reserves of empathy of understanding. Like those kids in high school who to this day would say "those were the best years of my life!" Aside from that being a fairly depressing sentiment, it might also mean they didn't deal with a lot of crap in those years, and therefore are maybe more likely to be scum today. Not always, just maybe more likely.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

(Still without justice, compassion, etc. both means and ends seem to really suck.)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

gear's "not a duck" post OTM

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

duck, i think those types of people might be more prone to being brought to depressing lows when confronted with adversity and ugliness. if you see it early on, it toughens you up.

Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

"ignoring pesky, distracting things like justice, compassion, empathy" is not a way to attain happiness.

QUOTATIONS FROM MAYO THOMPSON (hstencil), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)

It might be.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I may have hinted at that already, Joel.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

You are correct Samantha. If anything, I'm tougher now than I would have been if high school wasn't so hellish. I think on your first point that it also makes people more prone to a sense of entitlement.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

adversity is overrated too. it's great if it does toughen you up, dud if you use it for bragging rights, guilt trips, etc.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

xpost then why bother asking Michael? Jeez, get on my case for your lack of clarity why don't you.

QUOTATIONS FROM YOUR QUOTATIONS (hstencil), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i think you're the only one who wasn't clear on it

Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Speaking as one who doesn't think much about high school either way other than 'it happened,' I think that might not be the best standard here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

easy Cindy I was picked on as a kid (xpost) =(

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay, please, go ahead, make me unhappy by piling on, that'd be great.

QUOTATIONS FROM THE PILE-ON (hstencil), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah I don't think about high school anymore, it's been 10 years...

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

i was too, notaduck.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Experiences in personal not universal shocker. I am happy. I enjoyed school. I got bullied. I played for the football team too, and was head student and shit. Shits & whistles.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I think that people who can empathize with other people are inherently happier, not the other way around. It doesn't really make sense.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I have nothing against those in high school who didn't treat me so hot, assuming that we were all kids and kids can be ducks sometimes.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

son of a...

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

"like water off a duck's ass."

QUOTATIONS FROM QUOTATIONS (hstencil), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.mariasducktales.com/PeanutBaby.jpg

I'm not clear why people think ducks can't attain happiness. I mean, look at them! Wouldn't you be happy if you were that cute?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm an asshole and I'm not happy. so probably not.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

"like shooting ducks in a row"

QUOTATIONS FROM CARNIES (hstencil), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Gear, did you seriously make the duck mistake again? Do you speak in a slightly slobbering fashion? Do you call your enemies despicable? Did you walk out into your living room when the cowboy hat guy was there and start raving and jumping about and saying "I'VE NEVER BEEN SO HUMILIATED IN ALL MY LIFE!"?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

yes on all counts!!

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

cowboy hat guy??

Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

(actually it was a trucker hat)

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

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stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

aw it nearly worked

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

My dog is the happiest person I know. I guess I must be a duck.

Gilles Meloche (Gilles Meloche), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

(actually it was a trucker hat)

It's become conflated in my mind, for better or worse.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been known to wear a cowboy hat, though.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Ride 'em.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Happiness is a weird thing, you only really notice it when it's not around.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

not true!

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Is happiness for assholes?

No, but iPods are.

Skottie, Wednesday, 19 May 2004 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

heh heh. yeah, cos when i'm on the subway, i get to see peoples' playlists, and they have asshole playlists. i'm sure there are exceptions, but i'm holding down the lid of my diskman (won't play otherwise, can't afford a new one), thinking: assholes.

paulhw (paulhw), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm an asshole.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 May 2004 07:51 (twenty-two years ago)

My asshole needs happiness:(

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 20 May 2004 07:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone wanna provide it?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 20 May 2004 07:56 (twenty-two years ago)

The answer to the question is: MOST OF THE FUCKING TIME.

(This is why I'm trying to take a break from ILX)

Barima (Barima), Thursday, 20 May 2004 09:01 (twenty-two years ago)

For all the people on this thread who admit to being assholes:
http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4020&n=3

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)


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