Gay Men Can't Donate Sperm

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According to the NY Times, the FDA has created a new law banning men who have had homosexual encounters in the past 5 years from donating sperm due to HIV/AIDS concerns. The Red Cross, similarly, doesn't let men who have had homosexual encounters in the past 30 years (or so, I forget exactly) donate blood for the same reason.

Why is there no outcry about this? Surely they should be testing all the sperm/blood they receive for HIV/AIDS anyway & isn't it discriminatory? The percentage of gay/bisexual men with AIDS can't be that high & it seems to me like these policies are just encouraging negative stereotypes.

Is there a legitimate reason for these bans or is it just outright homophobia? & why aren't they groups of people vocally protesting them?

j c (j c), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)

it's interesting that it was decried for being unscientific, in a way. If homosexuality is truly a genetically-based trait, I mean.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

DONT YOU SEE...THEY WILL PASS ON GENES THAT WILL NOT ENCOURAGE PROCREATION...THE WHOLE POINT OF DONATING SPERM WILL BE DERAILED...DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER...TOTAL ANARCHY

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

which of course doesn't make the ban or Buscho any less fucking stupid.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i am a bit sad a potential bit of income has been denied me

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

also, if gay men could donate sperm, there'd be no demand for straight sperm. trust me.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

(j3ss, you're gay?????????????!? never picked up on that.)

Also, does straight 4n4l disqualify me? xpost

Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Likewise I am unable to donate.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

OUR CHILDREN SHOULD NOT GROW UP TO BE HAIRDRESSERS

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

"encounter"

Yeah, we just ran into each other in that dungeon after I'd slayed the dragon and he'd escaped the clutches of some orcs.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

IT TAKES A NATION OF QUEER EYES TO HOLD US BACK

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

surely the straight sperm in my body could be separated from the gay sperm with today's scientifical breakthroughs

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Bushco keeps alienating the Log Cabin Republicans. All two of them.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, put some homoporn in the booth and make you have two wanks and see which ones are attracted to nekkid ladies and which ones are attracted to stills of Brad Pitt in Fight Club.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

the blood thing has been around for awhile. but there are many conditions for not being allowed to donate blood. aren't tattoos one of them?

Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

"You see, these spermatozas are on this spread of Pamela Anderson's womb, ergo they are heterosexualized spermatozas, whereas these nasty pink ones are on George Clooney's moustache and ergo are pufftahs."

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

This ban could lead to a worldwide gay semen build-up. Do we have adequate reservoirs to store the build-up?

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

you can donate, but it might be rejected later after testing. This is an outright prohibition.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Do we have adequate reservoirs to store the build-up?

San Francisco Bay, Hudson River, Florida Keys...

(sorry)

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I hear your ass is cheap to rent, Huck.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

there's this thing called lying. . .

Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

No no no, hstencil, you'd end up with lots of gay fishboy creatures when they cross-fertilised.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

And then the gay fishboy creatures would go extinct within a generation wot wiv being all gay and scientoligists would cry.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe we could find a way to use gay-semen to fuel cars!

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Huck you are THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX!

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Give that man a rise.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, if the sperm bank don't want it, I'll find something to do with it!

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I bet you will.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

aren't tattoos one of them?

Yeah, recent tattoos and piercings are both reasons they'll prohibit you from donating blood. I forget how old a tattoo or piercing has to be before you're allowed to give blood again though.

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

okay, finally, I am officially grossed out by this thread.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

from the AP story. also we should note it doesn't say 'gay men' but men who have had a homosexual experience in the past five years. this could include a whole variety of men but that's another thread.

Thursday, the Food and Drug Administration (news - web sites) announced rules that could cut risky donations: Tissue banks must test and screen potential donors for signs of infectious diseases that render them ineligible.


The FDA had first proposed those rules, and a list of others to strengthen tissue safety, in 1997. The death of Brian Lykins sped up the long-delayed proposals. Federal investigations of the death prompted the FDA to suspend some operations at the nation's largest tissue supplier and identified more than 60 other patients sickened from tainted tissue transplants.


With 1 million tissue transplants a year, problems are rare, Dr. Jesse Goodman, FDA's chief of biological products, said Thursday. Still, "we can do a better job," he said.


The new rules require tissue banks to test donors and/or donated tissue for the AIDS (news - web sites) virus, hepatitis B and C, syphilis and Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (news - web sites), the human form of mad cow disease. There's no specific test for CJD, so banks instead must perform other checks such as examining the brain of a cadaver donor.


Additional testing is required for some tissue donations, such as ensuring the donors of sperm and eggs don't have the sexually transmitted diseases chlamydia and gonorrhea.


And the rules allow the agency to order checks for new diseases, such as West Nile virus (news - web sites) or SARS (news - web sites), as it deems necessary.


Tissue banks also must check donors' medical records, for such problems as recent bacterial or fungal infections.


In addition, tissue banks must ask a living donor, or relatives of a dead one, about risk factors for infections, similar to the screening blood banks now perform.


That means, for example, that anyone who has used injected drugs in the past five years, or men who have had sex with another man in the preceding five years, can't donate because those are risk factors for HIV (news - web sites).


Exceptions to the donor testing include cells or tissue that a patient will have re-implanted later or reproductive cells from a sexual partner, as is common with in vitro fertilization.


"This rule is a major step toward ensuring that tissue contaminated with life-threatening pathogens is not transplanted into unsuspecting patients," said Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine.


But she decried what she called the "FDA's repeated and unacceptable delays in implementing this rule. I am concerned that this delay may have put lives at risk."


The FDA promised to soon issue its last pending set of tissue rules — one Collins deems crucial — that will govern exactly how the banks process and store donated tissue and cells so they're not wasted or contaminated. That rule could have played a role in the Lykins' case, because the FDA accused the tissue supplier, CryoLife Inc., of not following procedures to prevent fungal and bacterial contamination of soft tissue.


The donor testing rule will go into effect in a year, at the same time the processing standards take effect, FDA said.

Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

not by the tattoos, obv. also, eating meat in the UK in the past 10 years is another prohibition.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Milkshake, anyone?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I am not certain I'd want a jizzmobile.

Filling the tank might be more interesting, though. And cheaper.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

You have a sexy enough automobile, Dan?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I doesn't matter if it's a Hyundai or a Mercedes; a tank's a tank.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

QUEER JIZZ FOR THE STRAIGHT CHICKS!!!

Gilles Meloche (Gilles Meloche), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

It has to be gay-semen, though, Dan.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

That's not a problem, Huck.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Dan and Ned are so clearly an item.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

SHHHHHHHH!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Whole new meaning to oil & lube change.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

We know you named your car Raggettmobile and we know why.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember a few years ago when a bunch of Ethiopian jews living in Israel had a protest because it was discovered that the blood they had been donating in a national blood drive was being destroyed. They figured that anyone from Africa must have HIV, so they didn't even screen it... just destroyed it.

andy, Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm pretty sure you can't donate blood if you have had ANAL SEX whether or not you are straight or gay.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I just accept that I can never give blood.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Buttfucker.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)

What if your receiving anal sex while your giving sperm? I mean it takes a lot for some people to get off. *runs away*

Gilles Meloche (Gilles Meloche), Thursday, 20 May 2004 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

An exhaustive list of prohibitions for blood-donation from the American Red Cross:

http://www.redcross.org/services/biomed/0,1082,0_557_,00.html

highlights:

-acupuncture, only if you confirm needles used were sterile (12 mths)

-You are not eligible to donate if you have some types of generalized autoimmune disease including systemic lupus erythematosus and multiple sclerosis.

-blood transfusions - after a yr if the transfusion was from an american donor. "You may not donate if you received a transfusion since 1980 in the United Kingdom (England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Channel Islands, Isle of Man), Gibraltar or Falkland Islands. "

-Wait 12 months after using cocaine or other street drugs through your nose before attempting to donate blood. This requirement is related to concerns about hepatitis and HIV.

Wait 12 months after close contact with someone who is sick with viral hepatitis. Close contact is defined as sexual contact or sharing the same household, kitchen, dormitory, or toilet facilities.

Wait 12 months after detention in a correctional institution or residence in a long-term psychiatric institution.

Wait 12 months after receiving a blood transfusion (unless it was your own “autologous” blood, blood injections, tattoo, non-sterile needle stick/body piercing or exposure to someone else's blood.

Wait 12 months following a human bite, if it broke the skin.

Those who are at increased risk for becoming infected with HIV are not eligible to donate blood. According to the Food and Drug Administration, you are at increased risk if:

you are a male who has had sex with another male since 1977, even once;
you have ever used a needle, even once, to take drugs or steroids that were not prescribed by a physician;
you have taken clotting factor concentrates for a bleeding disorder such as hemophilia;
you were born in or lived in Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Niger, or Nigeria since 1977 (This requirement is related to concerns about HIV Group O. Learn more about HIV Group O.)
you have taken drugs or money in exchange for sex since 1977;
you have ever had a positive test for HIV virus;
you have symptoms of HIV infection

Wait for 12 months after close contact with someone who is at an increased risk for HIV infection. This occurs when paying to have sex, as a result of rape, or when having sex with an IV drug user.

Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Friday, 21 May 2004 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)

ten years pass...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/24/health/fda-lifting-ban-on-gay-blood-donors.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

About 8.5 percent of American men — or about 10 million people — report having had sex at least once with a man since turning 18, according to the Institute. The new policy will exclude the 3.8 percent of American men who report having had a male sexual partner in the past year, a group that could double the potential new supply, the institute said in a report.

how's life, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 19:00 (eleven years ago)


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