― Debito (Debito), Friday, 21 May 2004 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 May 2004 02:34 (twenty-two years ago)
"Oh, no nothing like that", said he.
So I let him come by.
What a liar. Are they all like this?
― jim wentworth (wench), Friday, 21 May 2004 02:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 21 May 2004 02:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Friday, 21 May 2004 03:20 (twenty-two years ago)
Amway? Urgh. A friend tried flogging me the Amway lifestyle once. Never saw him again.
― I Wish You Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 21 May 2004 03:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Debito (Debito), Friday, 21 May 2004 03:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 May 2004 03:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Debito (Debito), Friday, 21 May 2004 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 May 2004 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)
One of his tactics was "Are you really doing what you thought you'd be doing when you went to college" .. somehow equating that with failing in your career .. My wife answered with, "I didn't think in college that I would be selling Amway for a living, I can tell you that."
A friend of mine went to a "job interview" to be a marketing assistant - and when she got there, she found out it was an amway presentation.
.. They do have a good water-repellant that you can use on your winshield or in a fiberglass bathtub - it's really a pretty good product, and it's lasted me for 8 years now. But it isn't worth the hassle of actually buying it.
― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)
I was in the rather massive Dexter Yager group. When I heard him speak, I found him a rather scarey character with a combination of lots of charisma and really horrible views. Kind of the least thoughtful fundamentalist Christian super right-winger possible. He said things like: "AIDS is the devil taking his own." (That one is very close to verbatim.) One minute, "I never went in for that turn the other cheek stuff," and another, "I don't know why these people have this theory of evolution. They could just read the Bible and find out the truth." (Not very verbatim, but captures the gist of what he said.) Birdie Yager (yes, Birdie Yager): "Women's lib. is the most satanic force of the past thirty years" (or something like that). On "Free Enterprise Day," Yager had people like Oliver North speak to his group. Etc. etc. I dropped out shortly after hearing Yager speak for the first time, although that was only part of the reason. (I realized that to make as much money as I wanted, I would have to try to make every interaction with anyone a business transaction, 27/7, and I realized I wasn't willing to do that.) My brother is not a right-winger, incidentally, nor a fundamentalist, though he's not so distant from fundamentalism in some respects. (I think he might be comfortable describing himself as an evangelical, but he's probably a bit more liberal than most.)
Despite my disdain for the Amway distributor culture (at least in my group), I never considered it a scam until recently. Kenny Stewart, who was one of the poster-boy success stories when I was in Amway, has apparently sued a number of other big-whigs, and now claims (as others have in the past) that sales and marketing plan is misleading; and that the profit from the selling of "motivational tools" and events within the system is actually necessary to make a lot of money in Amway.
There's a lot of great critical stuff online about it.
― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 21 May 2004 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 May 2004 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)
Can I borrow those extra three hours per day you have?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 May 2004 13:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 21 May 2004 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)
(A typo actually.)
― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 21 May 2004 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)
Ask La Monte Young about the 27-hour day.
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 May 2004 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)