TS: greasy and tasty thin crust pizza vs. hearty and delicious deep dish pizza

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"meh meh meh ovah he-ah in Noo Yawk we like dis pizza thin so's we can fold it up, it's good shit..."

"blah blah blah ah in ChiCAgo we have it one way, da deep dash sta-yl, fills ya raight up..."

okay, so what do you prefer?

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Can't I like both?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Thin. Pizza crust is empty calories.

― I Wish You Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, I'm with Alex; both are delicious.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Chicago is a land of many fine thin crust pizzas, in addition to the stuffed/deep dishes. In fact I'd say it's easier to find good thin crust here than stuffed.

I prefer my thin crust slightly crispy and not very greasy.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I've found good thin crust in Los Angeles, especially this local chain called Ameci's, located all OVER the San Fernando Valley. Check your yellow pages.

But good deep dish I have to make myself.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Thick or thin. there's only one way to wash it down. Sam Adams.

― jim wentworth (wench), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah good quality slightly crispy thin wood-fired pizza oven crust, with only a nice simple topping of good tomato puree and mozza and maybe some basil and garlic.

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:40 (twenty-two years ago)

throw some ricotta on that, trayce, and i'm in heaven.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought pizza was Italian?

Thin crust every time. Best pizza I ever had was from a village market in the south of France. Good God!

― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Best Pizza in Australia is in Perth, cause they got the popes pizza maker. v. thin. Dominos pizza is also good, but we dont get it in Melbourne. I remember some poor bastard comedian trying to make a joke about 'whats in the box with the dots' and when the hell are we gonna get krispy kremes?

― Nellie (nellskies), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:48 (twenty-two years ago)

oh jeez if Domino's is near the top of the Aussie pizza list I feel really bad for that continent.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Thin for heaven's sake. Thick crust pizza? Once again American culinary habits disgust me.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey Gear, do you like Damiano's?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:59 (twenty-two years ago)

it ain't bad, it's within walking distance. I usually go for Ameci's or Johnny's NY Pizza though

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 21 May 2004 07:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm assuming you haven't had it.

It's only slightly thicker, and is generally a bit softer. The main difference is that it is baked in a, you guessed it, deep dish and the sauce goes on top of the cheese.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 May 2004 07:02 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.giordanos.com/cover.jpg

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 May 2004 07:06 (twenty-two years ago)

if I were being executed, that would be the last course in my final meal.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 May 2004 07:10 (twenty-two years ago)

holy fuck is that Giordano's????

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 21 May 2004 07:15 (twenty-two years ago)

YES

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 May 2004 07:16 (twenty-two years ago)

god-DAMN that's some fine pizza. they need to open one in SoCal.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 21 May 2004 07:18 (twenty-two years ago)

that has been my business idea for years. Open some on the west coast and Phoenix, where there's oodles of Chicago transplants.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 May 2004 07:21 (twenty-two years ago)

thin crust all the way

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 21 May 2004 08:27 (twenty-two years ago)

you are no longer welcome in chicago

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 May 2004 08:29 (twenty-two years ago)

oh my god giordianos is what would cure my hangover. i need it NOW.

(that is my vote as well. and there is not a single good deep dish pizza place in london. which makes me want to cry.)

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 21 May 2004 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)

this is so cruel. i couldn't even see the image, but i can almost taste that buttery crust, that garlic-y sauce and all that nummy cheese. what the heck can i get to eat in islington that is comparable?!

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 21 May 2004 09:24 (twenty-two years ago)

God oops, Dominos is SO not classy pizza here! They have it in perth and sydney I think, but man its no better than pizza hut, eurgh.

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 21 May 2004 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Deep dish niggaaaaaaaaaa - I can snack pretty hard to thin crust but for meal-oriented purposes I can't deal with crispyness as the core texture. Vancouver is fucked for deepdish places but in Cowtown they have like ten 24-hour branches of Chicago DEEP DEEP DEEP DEEP DEEP DEEP DISH Pizza (there are really that many DEEPs in the name) and a medium (16 bucks) will feed a crew of three stout men no questions axxxxxxxxxxed.

― LC, Friday, 21 May 2004 09:44 (twenty-two years ago)

ahh Giordano's.... *Homer Simpson drooling noise*

― sgs (sgs), Friday, 21 May 2004 09:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin. I dunno what that round thing in the photo is, but it sure doesn't look like any pizza I've ever seen.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 21 May 2004 09:47 (twenty-two years ago)

You're one of those metrosexuals, aren't you!

― LC, Friday, 21 May 2004 09:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, darling. *mwah*

― Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 21 May 2004 09:48 (twenty-two years ago)

it looks like a pie, or possibly a chocolate tart of some description.

i could so go some pizza right now, the greasier the better...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:00 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a small chain of italian restaurants in the UK called L'Artistra that sells some of the best food ever at very resonable prices. If you come across one, please go in - and order a starter as they're incredible!

As far as pizza chains go, Papa Johns has to top the lot for me. Maybe not that authentic and probably on the greasy/unhealthy side but by god it's tasty!

― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I can snack pretty hard to thin crust but for meal-oriented purposes I can't deal with crispyness as the core texture.

Thin (ie. REAL, idiot pizza poppists) crust pizza doesn't have to be particularly crispy. The dough can kind of melt in your mouth if it's cooked a certain way.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, indeed. God, I am so tempted to go to La Porchetta for lunch now.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:28 (twenty-two years ago)

ha ha, idiot pizza

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Pizza in America has been pretty disappointing, with the extremely surprising exception of individual Pizza Hut pizzas bought at the airport.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:39 (twenty-two years ago)

(go to Le Due Colonne in Venice or Zia Catari in Bologna, dudes)

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:40 (twenty-two years ago)

the picture is giving me a nightmare. can any us people give an decent explanation of how that might be at all considered pizza?

― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay. It's pizza; you're british!

― LC, Friday, 21 May 2004 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Italians! Come hither!

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)

But everyone eats the pizza and chucks the crusts if theyre huge, why waste it by having such hugearse ones?

xpost damn right Nick.

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:54 (twenty-two years ago)

pappa johns is good because of the garlic dipping sauce.

i love pizza hut breadsticks. driving kalamazoo to ann arbor or kalamazoo to chicago i'd always stop halfway and get an order to eat while driving. mmmmm.

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)

xpost, But the crusts are flaky and buttery and melty--one of those Giordano's pizzas used to last me several days eatin'.

― sgs (sgs), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)

ok, is there anyone on here that is from or has lived in chicago that doesn't love giordano's? just curious if they've swept the ILX best chicago pizza contest.

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 21 May 2004 11:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Stop it! You are killing me! Pizza is undoubtedly my most favourite food. There are so many great wee independent joints around and I've taken it upon myself to try out a great many of them. Most of them (from Turkish or Indian takeaways) stick to thin crust pizzas but obviously the quality varies from place to place.

My two favourites so far have been a spicy mince and pepperoni number from a wee place in Stranraer, and a Pepperoni, Jalepeno and Red Onion effort from an Indian gaff in Balloch.

I have made it my lifes work to S/D pizzas in the West of Scotland.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Friday, 21 May 2004 11:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Giordano's = grebt, but it's Nancy's fer deepdish ...

Do any of you live in an area where they cut (thin crust) pizza into squares, instead of pie slices? WTFWTFWTFWTF is that? Try eating the soggy middle pieces .. it's fucking nasty ... and stupid.

― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 21 May 2004 11:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm....greasy vs. delicious...tough one...

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 21 May 2004 11:06 (twenty-two years ago)

thin crust, with pepperoni and black olives.

― Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Friday, 21 May 2004 11:07 (twenty-two years ago)

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Pizza in New York is like saltine crackers with ketchup on them, soaked in grease. I don't get that shit at all. (Though the Chicago stuff that you have to eat with a spoon is actually more LASAGNA than pizza -- Pizza is absolutely meant to have teeth sunk into it, but you're also supposed to be able to hold it in your HANDS.)

― chuck, Friday, 21 May 2004 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Chuck you eat lasagna with a spoon? YOU ARE ONE WEIRD DUDE.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

carey is vacationing, currently. i have asked her to bring a few hard-to-conceal items back for me, but as of yet i haven't requested a pizza.

Pizza in New York is like saltine crackers with ketchup on them, soaked in grease.

no, it isn't.

― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Chuck you need to post to the food threads more often.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

http://archive.salon.com/comics/boll/2000/10/05/boll/story.gif

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Ever since the Ninja Turtles Pizza Launcher, I've wanted to take someone out by throwing a pizza at them. One day...

― Barima (Barima), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Chuck also needs to refine his definitions of "ketchup" and "saltine cracker".

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think I work near Art of Pizza. I work pretty close to Giordano's, I think, or Giordano's east or something. But I just went to this crappy place that has pizza by the slice.

― NA (Nick A.), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:19 (twenty-two years ago)

dude if Chuck reconfigures his theories of genre to food we're all in trouble.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Art of Pizza has pizza by the slice! And both deep-dish and thin crust.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

what other strange food ideas does chuck have?

"salty as ice cream"

"thick and chunky like a coke"

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

if the Chambers Brothers are "dub metal" than fish tacos must be "Swedish Ethiopian."

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

But ice cream DOES have salt in it, I thought.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

The fact that something has salt in it is not enough to make it salty.

― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 21 May 2004 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sorry to say that if your ice cream was salty when those guys gave it to you, I think maybe they were lying about the salt.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 21 May 2004 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

what kind of crazy fool only likes one kind of pizza? they're all great.

sicilian is my favorite, a thick-crust rectangle with garlic and olive oil baked into the bubbly, crunchy bread, and cooked in a deep pan so the cheese at the edges gets blackened. sauce of course on top of the cheese. chicago deep-dish is also fantastic however, and a good thin crust is heavenly. i'm eager to try st. louis pizza, i haven't yet. italy lost the plot with pizza ages ago. america is where pizza's at.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 21 May 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Update: the "Chicago Style" pizza place near work's "Chicago Style pizza" totally sucks, and is akin to eating one of those frozen Stouffer's cheese-and-sauce-on-french-bread dealies just not as good. And their thin crust sucks too.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 May 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

there's a place in Los Angeles called BJ's which alleges to be Chicago style pizza but is closer to those crappy mini pizzas they gave out in high school for lunch.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 21 May 2004 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Is St. Louis its own style of pizza, or are you just talking about eating pizza in St. Louis?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 21 May 2004 18:19 (twenty-two years ago)

crappy mini pizzas they gave out in high school for lunch.

the rectangular ones? They are crappy compared to real pizza but with tabasco and pepper they are kinda good.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 May 2004 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, apparently st. louis pizza uses a particular type of cheese other pizzas do not. i've been to BJ's in LA and their sicilian pizza was fantastic.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 21 May 2004 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

xpost

nah the round ones, the ones where the sauce is sort of dry and brownish and there's hardly any cheese, most of it is just half-cooked dough, and it tastes like a sock

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 21 May 2004 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)

oh yeah those suck.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 May 2004 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Incidentally, I ate the WORST stromboli I have ever eaten in my life, last night, from a pizza parlor a couple blocks away. Some of their pizza is okay, but I probably won't ever go back again after the stromboli experience. It was a veggie stromboli that contained a lot of onion and bell pepper that was more or less raw.

― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 21 May 2004 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

best pizza in the world is Di Fara's in Midwood Brooklyn.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 21 May 2004 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Giordano's = grebt, but it's Nancy's fer deepdish ...

No way, dude. I don't care for Nancy's sauce---tastes cheap, like Prego or som'n---and the cheese is too rubbery. The Nancy's by my sister's offers ricotta as a topping but the one by me doesn't. Fuckers.

I've never been to Art of Pizza but have heard good things about it. There's several not-that-well-known pizza places with just have one location that serve stuffed pizza that is just as good as Giordano's/Gino's/etc. They all seem to have long Italian names that sound alike. Todosino's, Terrapino's, Travertino's, etc.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 May 2004 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

In the Washington area you have Armand's, which is a divinely pillowy variant of deep dish. But do we have to make war over this issue? The real fight should be against bad pizza--bad thin crust, bad deep dish, or abominable Hawaiian pizza.

― j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 21 May 2004 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

'abominable' means 'glorious' in this context, yes?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 May 2004 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Your sense of language must be as perverted as your palate to say that.

― j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 21 May 2004 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I speak langwidge good!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 May 2004 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

st. louis pizza uses provel cheese and make nyc pizza seem thick as a brick. I, betraying my hometown, would go with deep dish chicago style.

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 21 May 2004 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Pizza Hut.

― Fergal (Ferg), Friday, 21 May 2004 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

you are british

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 May 2004 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

sob

― Fergal (Ferg), Friday, 21 May 2004 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)

did you just call my mother a bitch?

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 May 2004 21:49 (twenty-two years ago)

seriously though, the Hut is incredibly foul.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 May 2004 21:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't understand why people in Chicago would ever go to Pizza Hut or Lil Ceasar's or Papa John's. It's bewildering.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 May 2004 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Friday, 21 May 2004 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I understand it out in fucking Woodstock but elsewhere, yeah. what's the point?

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 21 May 2004 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Morrissey is on TV/ Jools Holland later show

just tucking into a Stuffed crust Hawaiian Ham & Pineapple pizza with MOZZArella cheese

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 21 May 2004 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

go back to California, hippie!

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 21 May 2004 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I've had Amici's (NorCal version), and it's unremarkable. The crust is too chewy, and once I'm finished with one slice, the amount of time it took for me to masticate properly has cooled off the rest of the pizza.

Ergo, THICK CRUST.

Incidentally, my fingers have not touched pizza in 36 months.

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Friday, 21 May 2004 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)

there's plenty of good local pizza places in Chicagoland that have comparable prices to the chains.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 May 2004 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Fictional things you always wanted to try: Sal's Famous Pizzeria with a pint of DUFF'S!!! EH!? Mmmmmmm.

― LC, Friday, 21 May 2004 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I still bust out the Radio Raheem and ask pizzeria staff to "put some MOOSE-A-RELLA on that motherfucka" even if it's like some tiny east-indian woman that never watches movies.

― LC, Friday, 21 May 2004 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Pizza Hut is a disgusting greasy hovel and should not be frequented by anyone.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Saturday, 22 May 2004 09:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Sally's or Pepe's in New Haven. The best. Thin.

― Skottie, Saturday, 22 May 2004 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Thin. But I'm having a Calzone for dinner so yay! So...what about toppings? Someone seemed to express a dislike for pineapple...I like pineapple on pizza, the sweetnes...

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Saturday, 22 May 2004 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Good, good. There are heathens and unbelievers out there, Kevin, but you are part of the elect.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 May 2004 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

six years pass...

This would be a good research project, travel and pizza across the USA, bypassing the usual tourist shit.

― Party with Your Poodle (u s steel), Thursday, 30 September 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

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