Break-up!!! Need Help!!!

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I have a question, a pretty important one. For me anyway. How do you know if someone is gonna break-up with you? Unfortunately I am in this position, and it might happen tomorrow. No bad circumstances i.e. no cheating or anything has taken place. We have been very close the last year, perhaps too close. I know he wants to loe weight over the summer and I know he feels he never sees his friends or family and should see them more like his gran and his best mate but...

This was discussed on Sunday. As per usual I had to get it out of him. He says that we don't have to spend every night together, which is true. He then said to me "don't think this changes anything!" hmmm. Maybe I am worried over nothing. Why am I worrying?

Well, first of all he said he would stay over with me on monday. Which he then said on monday he was really tired after his exam and said he will just stay at home. Which was all good and well. I am not gonna say no. That's just silly. And he said he wanted to stay at his house a couple of nights before his exam to study, which was fine. Now this morning he asked me if I want to meet tomorrow once he has saw one of his lecturers at uni. He also said he is going out tomorrow night, the night before his exam. Not only that, he said he had caught a bit of the cold over the phone. Later I thought, is he saying that to cover up nerves or tears which I didn't notice in the first place.

What does this sound like to you? Am I just confused? Am I being paranoid? Am I just being a worrier? I know you can't answer that. However, what if he does break up with me tomorrow? Any tips on how to handle it? What should I do?

I am so confused. I don't know what to do? And evenmore, I don't know how to handle it if he does. This all just came upon me this morning when he asked me to meet him tomorrow. How can I handle this tomorrow if it happens.

Open to all advice. Please. Thanks.

obviouslypostinganonomously, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

ooh, he asked you to meet him? sorry, but you're getting dumped.

why does he have to break up with you to lose weight?

mandee, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I was in a serious relationship that ended abruptly and sadly last summer. It's very hard to deal with and i'm still recovering. I just found out he's getting married in a week and it's still hard...but anyway I once couldn't imagine a life without him, and now..it's not so bad. Believe it or not..and I know right now you probably can't...but if the worst happens...which might be hard even to say out loud right now, you're gonna be ok.
The most important thing to do is remain calm and listen. bursting into tears and begging for him back is never the way to get what you want...trust me i've tried :)
if he asks for time...give it to him. you might not want to and it will probably be the hardest thing in the world, but smile and say that you're will to do whatever you can to keep him happy and into the relationship. and if it's more time w/ his buds..well all guys want that..i don't think i've ever had a relationship where that topic hasn't come up. just make sure you respect his need to have alone time and "boys" time. that was one thing i learned the hard way in my last relationship. Even if you wonder why in the hell he would rather spend time alone than with you, and you can't possibly figure out why..respect his decision...and do it with a smile. he'll probably respect you for being so understanding and love you more when he's come around.

Anonaswell, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

he's getting married and you just broke up last summer!? wow, your ex moves fast.

mandee, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Tell me about it. Sadly enough it doesn't suprise me. He asked me to marry him and I said I wasn't ready (I'm 22) (He's 23) but I knew he had the wedding bug...So the next girl he started dating he propsed to after 6 months and they're getting married saturday...

anonaswell, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

why does he have to break up with you to lose weight?

Every time he fucks her she gives him a bit of cake?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

They do say it's high in calories, although it does improve your skin.

Johnney B, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Some people do move pretty fast. When I broke up with my husband I was in a new relationship two months later and it's pretty serious. I broke up with him. He had no idea it was coming even though to me it seemed like the relationship had been bad for a long time.

I know that when we broke up I said that I wanted time on my own and a whole lot of other stuff that I sort of meant at the time, but really those were stalling tactics. I wanted to get out of the relationship and cause him as little hurt as I possibly could along the way.

My advice would be similar to others. Be gracious. Accept what you're told with as much dignity as you can. But remember that you don't have to hang around and listen to any excuses once the breakup words are said, and you certainly don't need to try to let him know that you're okay and this is not a problem. Get in, get it done, get out, have a friend standing by to provide backup.

You will get over it, especially if both of you are mature enough and have enough regard for each other not to cause extra hurt. My ex is now in a very happy relationship too, and he and I are cordial if not exactly close.

yetanotheranonposter (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

how do people get boyfriends/girlfriends again? I've forgotten.

mandee, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

The internet

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

This just goes to show that no one EVER really knows what anyone else is thinking or feeling.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, I realized that the other night. Again.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)

If all he wants is more time to see his family and best mate, then why can't you come to some arrangement whereby this is possible? I can't see why you have to break up over wanting your own space.

The first few months of a new relationship can be pretty intense, but it can't last that way indefinitely. Cool things down a bit, don't smother him, don't insist on seeing him all the time .... carry on dating each other, and just have fun. Perhaps if he is missing his other friends etc, it might be worth you taking up a new hobby or making time for your own neglected friends so that you have things of your own to do.

C J (C J), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I just typed out lots and lota and then pressed the wrong key to delete a letter. s**t.

Anyway, here is what I said:

mandee: well, I think he will break up with me because he may feel that I will want to see him when he is wanting to lose weight and he may feel bad trying to lose weight and not seeing me hence he might just end it for that matter. His weight has always been as issue for the last year even though he is not fat at all. He never has been.

Sick Mouthy: first post very funny lol. second post very true.

CJ: again yeah, thank you. On that point, he was the one who started coming to mine all of the time and on sunday, I was cool about it. About not seeing each other all of the time. I understand what you are saying.

Anonaswell: sorry for what happened and thanks so much for advice.

yetanotheranonposter: as anonaswell, thank you.

To all, thank you so so much. I know I am gonna bore you all so so much but please keep advising me. Here is our texts just before this post.

Him: 7:20 i bet u r watchin emmerdale the now, wot r u up 2? still playin with urself or u still tidyin up? luv * xxxxx

Me: watchin it aye and eatin and fiddlin with myself lol. a woman of wonders. Just call me superwoman. wot u up to? kisses and cuddlesxx

Him: 7:25 just doin studyin, guess wot i got brians mob numba. u done ne studyin? im going to have to go in firts fing tommoz is dat ok? luv * xxx

Me: yeah dat is fine but are you gonna go home and study afterwards or do something? cos I dont wanna go up for just half an hr. dont get me wrong, will be gr8 to c u as always and get a big cuddle and some kisses. no not studying lol. cant. luv *xx

Him: 7:44 well i was thinkin we cud do sumthin afterwards don know yet though so r u goin to cum in den? luv * xxxx

me: of course yeah. even if we go to the library to study. just didn't wanna go up for just a short short time thats all. luv *xx

Sorry about this. please keep giving me your opinion of the situation and of what you think. I am so appreciative. thank you. I will also keep you posted.

obviouslypostinganonomously, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd dump him if I were you, for his atrocious abuse of the SMS function on his mobile.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, is texting actually affecting the way people speak?

Plus he puts kisses in his messages = you might be worying over nothing; I don't even do that in messages to my girlfriend.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Things seem like they are fine. He wants to see you and that's a good sign. When me and fuckstain broke up he didn't want to see me ever because he knew that when we saw each other he would have to break the news that he needed "space" So he avoided my requests to see him for like a week...until finally we ran into each other at the mall unexpectedly and he realized that we needed to "talk". so if he's making plans to see you and hang out chances are he just wants to chat..not have "the talk"

anonaswell, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

is that how you guys 'text' on phones? well then i'm glad we don't do much of it over here. i could hardly make heads or tails of that conversation.

Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:33 (twenty-two years ago)

That was hard to follow, I need to get the intro level book, or at least immerse myself into the culture where I'm forced to learn the language.

I'm betting nothing will happen, and you may be overthinking it. And even if something does happen, don't overthink about it afterwards.

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't communicate via text messages with people very much, but I've read enough of other peoples' to know that those don't sound like text messages fom someone who is about to break up with you. He sounds perfectly fine and affectionate.

Maybe he's just stressed with work or exams or something, and you're reading too much into all of this?

C J (C J), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I just got off the phone to my sister and that's exactly what she said. She said get your head into studying (I have exam on thursday which I havent studied for) and stop worrying. It's not worth it. So I am gonna go over there and get some studying done, she will make me and she will also relax me a little I think. About the kisses at the end, well, that's what we usually do so he'd still do that not to worry me. He told me yesterday he loved me when we were lying in bed. I was lying down, thinking as I always do while he was laying his head on my chest with his eyes closed before he opened his eyes and told me. Maybe I am worrying over nothing. I hope so. I will keep you all posted. And thanks ever so much. Feel free to write anything, advise me, jokes, whatever. Thank you. Thanks for being there.

obviouslypostinganonymously, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes CJ, I understand. Thank you. I am still worried but you are all helping me a lot. Maybe I am being paranoid android. I'll keep posting and let you all know tomorrow also. Thanks.

obviouslypostinganonymously, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

ok, so. I think I am definitely unfortunately getting dumped in approximately 9 hours because that is when I am meeting him. The reason for this is that his password to faceparty changed. He always had the same password. And he changed it. To what I didn't know. But now I know it is to his ex-gfs name. wtf. And she has been textin him recently, askin for friendship. I'm fucked. Excuse the language. Don't know what to do. Thanks everyone for the support.

obviouslypostinganonymously (Shimmer), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 22:05 (twenty-two years ago)

aww.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Dump him.

Seriously, get the upper hand and beat him to it. You're not happy because of what he's doing, and after all this you never will be. So call him now and dump him, and take control. Do it nicely but, so it's easier for everyone.

Pack Yr Romantic Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 03:00 (twenty-two years ago)

What is this "faceparty" thing? If its some kinda membership website or something, I'm sorry but no bloody wonder he changed his pwd if you're logging into his account! Thats a bit rude innit? He probably thinks you're paranoid/checking up on him so he changed it, if he knew you were logging into it. Just a thought...

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, but to his ex's name??

Either he's back with his ex, or he's being a prick by making it his ex's name. Either way, I'd dump him.

Pack Yr Romantic Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 03:07 (twenty-two years ago)

You don't seem all that concerned about possibly being dumped ... I mean, it's not like you've expressed undying love for the guy and poured you heart all over your keyboard about how you can't live without him.
As for the xxxx's, as others (and you) have written, that may mean nothing. I was getting those sort of messages before my last girlfriend dumped me.
If he does dump you tomorrow (today?), you'll be fine.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Re: the text message conversation -

It really does look like the guy needs space. Obviously you are very attached to each other but from what I can tell, this conversation is a note for note rendition of me and my ex's texts.

Her: Do you want to meet up?
Me: Yes, but not now.
Her: Ok, when?
Me: I dunno, I'll tell you when. Sorry, I'm really busy right now/I am meeting a friend/I don't know what I'm doing in the next 24 hours.
Her: Right okay. Look, I kind of want to know because I want to see you and I want to spend time with you.
Me: Ok, how about tomorrow afternoon?

The problem is I do genuinely want to see her, but being cajoled into it can be frustrating and being forced to make a plan to meet someone you see all the time anyway can be very awkward if one is busy. I guess one could have accused me of being non-commital or not planning ahead enough but I figure that since we see each other on a day-to-day basis, there shouldn't really be a need to plan and stick little windows in our schedules for each other. This is especially true if one or both of you are going through a busy period such as exams because having to make plans and appointments can act as an extra burden to an already stressful time.

In the above conversation, she would get frustrated because I won't tell her when I can see her. I, on the other hand get annoyed that I am being made to make a decision when I am clearly quite busy. Obviously the above conversation is very diluted and sometimes there could be a degree of reserved anymosity in the messages we sent.

What I'm saying here is, assuming that you are not getting dumped, please please give him some space and don't put all your resources into wanting to see him or making arrangements to see him because at the end of the day you will see each other without having to do this and he won't feel like you are dragging him away from other commitments in which he would normally participate. No matter how much you love someone, it's a terrible feeling to have to sacrifice work, study, family and friends because "the wife wants a night in" - if you see what I mean. Of course, you have to find a balance, I'm not saying you shouldn't have nights in - just respect that he has a life outside of you as well as with you.

Cor, that was a bit epic and I'm not sure I explained that very well - sorry, I'm at work and it's quite hard to write properly about this kind of thing.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 10:22 (twenty-two years ago)

dog latin OTM except that I must add this; time spent with each other everyday in a routine way when you're not doing anything special apart from eating chocolate, watching films and having sex is NOT GOOD if that's the only time you have for each other in a relationship. Sometimes you have to plan to do something because otherwise it's dull routine and atrophy. This, of course, is not easy if one or both of you are busy.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 11:16 (twenty-two years ago)

well, thanks all so much but here goes:

Sterling: thanks for the sympathy

PYRA: well, I totally know what you are saying. It's just so difficult to even think about this. Anyway, I was speaking to him lastnight and I explained how I was feeling. He assured me everything was fine and that I was being so stupud. Second post: exactly!!! thank you.

Barry: Well, I have always found expressing my feelings difficult. God, of course I love the guy. I wouldn't be so worried if I didn't. Thank you for the support.
Trayce: Well, there was reason for looking at this in the first name. All of his passwords have always been the same one. As have mine which he also knows. We both have known each others passwords. Anyway, like I think I said before, he was getting texts from her, wanting to be his friend. I asked him if he was gonna be friends with her. He says he can't because of what happened when they were together. He said things have changed and they have moved on and they are a thing well in the past. But he has been texting her back lately and he has been hiding things such as chatting to other girls on the net (he used to do this, which I already knew about). He didn't have to hide it from me. The fact that he changed his password in the first place (why?) and to his ex's (WHY?!?!) is a bit of a concern when we knew each others in the first place. Maybe I was insecure. Maybe that's the problem.

Dog latin: ok. To be honest with you I am giving his space and I haven't been the one not letting him do what he wants. I am not a control freak. He has been out numerous times with friends (and his cousin's friend has liked him for a long time but I've not made a big deal of this) and I wouldn't stop him from doing this. God, I'd never do that. Everyone needs a life. At the start of the relationship he kept coming down to me and it all became a routine where we'd go to uni together and end up going to each others home etc. It just carried on and on. I don't phone him all the time and ask him about when to meet and everything. I wait for him to phone because I don't want to feel as though I am stopping him from doing whatever he wants and not giving him space and also I don't want to feel as though I am running after him. And also, it's up to him when he wants us to see each other i.e. he's got to ask me first i.e. giving him space but he does phone me all of the time. I could go on more about this but I might just be repeating myself. Thanks so much for the advice. Very appreciated.

Sick Mouthy: thank you.

TODAY: Well, after last night, after seeing the password, well, I phoned him but I wasn't upset. Whether I am terribly trembling inside or not I try not to show all of my feelings, I don't want to act erratically (is that the right word to use?) Anyway, he asked why I was at my sister's. I said I couldn't study, that my mind was on things. He asked what was wrong. I said I will tell you after. I phoned to be clear on what was happeneing today when we were gonna meet up if we were still gonna. I wanted to tell him face to face I guess. He has had a surprise planned for me a while, what it is I don't know, but anyway, I said I would tell him if he gave me a clue to the surprise and I promised I would tell him. He told me that the surprise will come in the next 28 days as word came through the post (no idea what it is). So I let him know (but not the ex gf thing). And like I said, he was telling me that I was being a worrier and where did I get that idea from, that I thought he wanted to break up.

Well today? I didn't see him. On the phone he sounded terrible and he has been talking to me normally: no hesitation; no nervousness. Not only that, I have a good sense of when someone is lying and I feel absolutely confident that he wasn't lying when he said I was worrying over nothing about today. He sounded so ill. Furthermore, he never has been an early riser hence he went back to his bed after I phoned this morning to make sure he was still going in. I didn't want to make the journey for nothing. I told him not to worry about it. That was at 9am. He phoned me at 1:30pm, he did sound terrible and said that he didn't think he would be going out tonight. I told him to wait and see how he feels.

He phoned me about a half hour ago. We were speaking normally as usual, no difficultness or awkwardness: just normal. He says he was just gonna go out in a little while. He told me that he will have his phone if I need to contact him (not that I am or would at present moment). He has always called me when he has been out at all hours in the morning. I didn't tell him to do this. It's just something he has always done.

So, I will wait and see what happens. However, I am not going to call him to even see about meeting him tomorrow or going to his after our exams. He has got to ask me. I don't know if he will by the fact that he is getting ready to go out and will be back late and we have an exam early morning, hence no time to make arrangements. Even if he phones in the early hours of the morning, I'm not gonna ask to meet. If I don't see him tomorrow I don't see him. I am putting the ball in his court.

About the ex texting situation? A couple of days after seeing him I am gonna say about it. Say about how close we are and how we should never have to hide anything from each other therefore be honest and say how I feel about the situation. The password thing? My dad was very unhappy with it. My dad and bf have always had a good relationship, possibly better than what he has with his own dad but he wasn't happy. This, I will sort out in my own way, not by saying about it directly and so obviously. I'm not sure about saying anything about the password thing. I just don't understand it. Like Trayce said, maybe he did change it cause he thought I was snooping around or something but like I said, we always have known each others passwords. However, I did think that maybe he used this name because maybe I wouldn't think he'd do something as such as to use his ex's name, hence not see his pics. But I don't want to be making excuses and I am not excusing what I did. What I mean by that is finding out the password.

I would like to say thank you once again and I am still gonna keep posting and checking to see what you are all saying. Thanks so much. You don't know how much I appreciate it. I think I may be putting some people off by the big posts I am posting. Sorry about that too. Just a confused woman, that's all. Thanks.

obviouslypostinganonymously, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

If he's acting out of character, and you have a gut feeling that something is wrong.......you don't think there's a possibility that he may have cheated on you with his ex gf (or anyone else), do you?

C J (C J), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, I realized that the other night. Again.

...and really stresses the fact how important it is to love oneself and be comfortable and confident in oneself than anyone else -- which is very healthy.

That doesn't necessarily make the tenuous parts of cracking relationships completely painless, but that attitude can certainly make it less painful.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

C J. The thing is, he wasn't/isn't acting out of character which was why I did think it a possibility that is was down to my insecurities or something. I must admit, I am a bit of a worrier. And the thing is, if he had done, if he is, I would know because he can't lie to me. He is the worse liar ever and I'm good at detected whether someone is lying or not. I have discussed this with him at the start because as he has been hurt before, he was scared of me hurting him earlier on in the relationship which there is no way I would do. There is no need for anyone to do that in my opinion. I had to assure him why I wouldn't. Reasons being how I was very fussy, which I still am, how I didn't trust many guys at all due to my own reasons and also told him how he was my first real relationship and my first sexually. I don't think I am particularly pretty at all, really I don't but I do tend to attract people and people, not just guys, tell me how lucky I am to look how I look??? Don't know why? I have always been straight out and said listen, I have a boyfriend, but nicely. He told me how he'd never hurt me and never wants to lose me. He tells me he loves me all the time. And my friend and others have said how he is very protective of me. There's more to this and I could go on forever about it but no, I don’t think he is cheating on me or has been. We have been together to much for it to have already happened. And he does say how he loves me and everything and he has not been acting one bit suspiciously, not on the phone either. I guess I am just worried that it might happen after the texts from his ex, the looking at pics and chatting to random girls on the net (not so worried about this, some guys are just like this) and also finally because of the ex gfs name as a password. Maybe I am being silly about it all and reading too much into things.

obciouslypoatinganonymously (Shimmer), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)


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