― girl with an agenda, Thursday, 27 May 2004 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)
See also Jeannette Winterson, Nicola Griffith
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― prostpilso (nestmanso), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Leee's a Simpson (Leee), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― jennpb (jennpb), Thursday, 27 May 2004 20:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Will's Elf, Friday, 28 May 2004 07:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― kathryn m (kathryn m), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 May 2004 12:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 28 May 2004 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Friday, 28 May 2004 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)
Looking for recommendations for a high school student who is in the process of coming out. I gave her Funhome and she loved it and now she wants more stuff to read, but this is kinda a blindspot for me.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 22:14 (fifteen years ago)
I have actually read Ammonite (which is speculative fic) and Slow River (which is ??) by Nicola Griffiths, and I can at least remember liking the first one very, very much. If it being sci-fi isn't a barrier.
― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 22:17 (fifteen years ago)
the member of the wedding
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 22:19 (fifteen years ago)
Rebecca Brown's collection The End of Youth, especially "To Nancy Booth, Wherever You Are."
― A double shot of Sesame Street (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 22:38 (fifteen years ago)
Brown's The Terrible Girls might be a good one, too.
― A double shot of Sesame Street (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 22:40 (fifteen years ago)
i srsly love Radclyffe Hall but i am not sure i would recommend either The Well of Loneliness (or The Unlit Lamp for that matter) to a HS student in the process of coming out unless she enjoys making herself miserable (obv i did, but the path of miz was self-chosen).
― the ipcress killfile (c sharp major), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 22:47 (fifteen years ago)
Honestly there's prob a ton of new YA on this topic, I'm just not sure what it is. I mean we're publishing a book called I Am J written from the pt of view of a young FtM, I'm pret sure we have lesbian books around here someplace.
― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 22:51 (fifteen years ago)
xp-tp-self god, i think back and all i remember are terrible sci-fi novels and crushingly sad schoolgirl-y stuff. :/
'Tipping the Velvet' is probably the most straightforwardly fun of the Waters novels?
― the ipcress killfile (c sharp major), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 22:53 (fifteen years ago)
Just finished and really enjoyed Mia Farlane's novel 'Footnotes to Sex'.
― Bob Six, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 23:14 (fifteen years ago)
I just read a boggling bunch of comments on imdb that began because the original poster didn't believe there was a lesbian motif in "The Color Purple."
― Glorified Lolcat (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 23:18 (fifteen years ago)
jeanette winterson is hella dykey
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 08:33 (fifteen years ago)
bump for more recommendations? so far the carson mccullers book looks promising. some of this stuff i wouldn't feel comfortable giving to a high school student tho (which is why I'm not giving her Rubyfruit Jungle)
― Mordy, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 16:21 (fifteen years ago)
The Jeannette Winterson debut about her years as a teenage fundie/emerging lesbian was published when she was 25 and is probably the right book.
― champagne in the arse (suzy), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 16:35 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks, that looks great.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 16:38 (fifteen years ago)
I interviewed her last summer and pre-worried because she's got form for being absolutely terrifying, but she was warm and funny and I could have spent HOURS chatting with her. Oranges Are Not The Only Fruit is often an assigned text for A Level English and the film adaptation is also worth a look.
― champagne in the arse (suzy), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 16:46 (fifteen years ago)
i had 'the member of the wedding' assigned to me in HS fwiw
― Jomanda Hugankiss (donna rouge), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 18:52 (fifteen years ago)
also i take it the collected hothead paisan is out of the question here
― Jomanda Hugankiss (donna rouge), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 18:53 (fifteen years ago)
Dorothy Allison's Cavedweller, iirc.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 19:06 (fifteen years ago)
sarah waters 'the night watch'. i think her other books are supposed to have lesbian main characters w/ the exception of 'the little stanger' but i havent read them
― Lamp, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 19:44 (fifteen years ago)
just realized that "kissing the witch" would probably work really well
― Mordy, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 19:46 (fifteen years ago)
No Djuna Barnes?
(i have not actually read Barnes, just trying to cover the obvious bases)
― muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 19:57 (fifteen years ago)
I read Nightwood. Hated it.
― ENBB, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:23 (fifteen years ago)
Ah, The Nightwood wars again.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 22:21 (fifteen years ago)
sugar rush by julie burchill is supposed to be *actually* good i think
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 22:22 (fifteen years ago)
"Nightwood" is great fun if you're in the right mood, but at first her prose style can seem gratingly, staggeringly pretentious. There's also a snootful of weird, overdetermined representations of Jewishness to choke down in the early chapters before the lesbian (and tranny) stuff kicks in. If you like purple prose and heavy duty artificiality (ala Ronald Firbank, say) then you will dig it, but that's just not everybody's cup of tea.
― the tune is space, Thursday, 10 February 2011 02:28 (fifteen years ago)
oh, and I kinda found the lesbian character in "The Corrections" to be implausible- it felt very ventriloquized and "off" to me, and I'm not one to insist that only men can write male characters or only queers can write queer characters or what have you, but I just never really bought that sub-plot- it read like Franzen's lit-fic equivalent of when some dude pretends to be a woman online and imagines a kind of aerobics instructor-esque exaggerated persona that is more like pr0n than like, y'know, an actual female person
― the tune is space, Thursday, 10 February 2011 02:32 (fifteen years ago)
I should say that I read Nightwood along time ago as an undergrad in an Irish American Lit class which was sort of a weird place for it to begin with imo. Maybe I'll give it another shot.
― ENBB, Thursday, 10 February 2011 02:52 (fifteen years ago)
I just read it for the first time this summer and some of the writing made me cry "Sheesh!" while reading particularly florid passages out loud to my boyfriend.
― the tune is space, Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:19 (fifteen years ago)
i totally do not remember the corrections having a lesbian character
― plax (ico), Thursday, 10 February 2011 09:16 (fifteen years ago)
nightwoods stupid
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 09:17 (fifteen years ago)
does donald barthelme's city life have some lesbian protagonists? I think so. maybe not.
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 09:19 (fifteen years ago)
Not a novel, but this Swedish movie is about two high school girls coming out, and it's very very good.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 10 February 2011 09:52 (fifteen years ago)
Spendid!
― Mark G, Thursday, 10 February 2011 10:18 (fifteen years ago)
Mrs Dalloway has a brief momentary remembered lesbian past.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 10 February 2011 10:38 (fifteen years ago)
The Hours has a lesbian present.
It's not a novel and it's not explicitly about lesbians, but I just taught "Goblin Market" and it is amazing (and freely available on the internet). *and really sexy too*
― Mordy, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 20:42 (fifteen years ago)
I haven't read it yet, but ever since I heard about Rachilde's "Monsiuer Venus" I've been looking for it; unfortunately public libraries arent well stocked with Decadence (not even a copy of Huysmans!)
― Franklin_The_Turtle, Thursday, 10 March 2011 00:21 (fifteen years ago)
the wizard of oz. to kill a mockingbird. the heart is a lonely hunter. harriet the spy.
― scott seward, Thursday, 10 March 2011 00:26 (fifteen years ago)
not a novel, but this piece of poetry is gorgeous if u haven't already heard it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVwdgUAMB2w&feature=player_embedded
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 02:00 (fifteen years ago)
The sequel to the Wizard of Oz is this total gender studies meltdown.
― if I hate the headline, I'll make up a headline (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 02:04 (fifteen years ago)
Ozma disguised as a boy her whole life and being alarmed by the initial revelation I remember, but this is smoothed over p quickly (and she is totes settled in all the later books) - what else is in there?
― dom p's rusty Nuts (sic), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 02:14 (fifteen years ago)
The women of Oz all marching and revolting to take over the Emerald City with their steel knitting needles as weapons! Baum (& his family) iirc was pretty involved in the suffragette movement; he was secretary of his city's suffragette club.
― if I hate the headline, I'll make up a headline (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 02:56 (fifteen years ago)
It gives me such a knitting boner, that book does.
― if I hate the headline, I'll make up a headline (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 02:57 (fifteen years ago)
After the women take over the EC, the men of Oz are made to slave over constant household work. I know this is total three-year-old "I wear shoes on my head" level of mind-blower but Baum was maybe not the most perfect writer. Still a personal favorite person tho!
― if I hate the headline, I'll make up a headline (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 03:00 (fifteen years ago)
iIrc that stuff was largely bcz he was hoping for a stage adaptation and wanted to be able to shoehorn in leggy chorus girls marching, with their legs? (did not get this at the time obv, but read up a bit later, when I was 12 and got to go the the big library)
s'pose the Ozma thing would make perfect sense in that context too, with a principal boy
zomg
― dom p's rusty Nuts (sic), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 03:07 (fifteen years ago)
xpost, not the housework stuff
"I wear shoes on my head" level of mind-blower
lol jas mann
― dom p's rusty Nuts (sic), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 03:09 (fifteen years ago)
This has been the best moment of my week.
― if I hate the headline, I'll make up a headline (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 03:10 (fifteen years ago)
i like that thing mordy posted, wish she would slow down though
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 03:13 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.collectpeanuts.com/images/upload/120708/Animation/IMG_6451.jpg
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 06:53 (fifteen years ago)
the Bostonians! (i never knew what a 'boston marriage' was before i read this)
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 06:57 (fifteen years ago)
patricia highsmith "the price of salt"
originally published under a pseudonym (claire morgan)
― gravity tractor VS asteroid B612 (m coleman), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 11:57 (fifteen years ago)
Buffy comic books, and obv. Buffy in general.
Realize this post seems more of a "just throwing shit out there" but if you are recommended media for a teen coming out, I def think the show addresses how one handles it. Admittedly a lil shallow, but it's there.
― yeah (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 16:10 (fifteen years ago)
marcie's gay, patty isn't imo
― dom p's rusty Nuts (sic), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 21:12 (fifteen years ago)
Buffy is lesbian?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 17 March 2011 09:40 (fifteen years ago)
the second par is the important one there
― dom p's rusty Nuts (sic), Thursday, 17 March 2011 13:32 (fifteen years ago)
buffy had lesbian characters all the way through the last part of the season and explored these themes in a way that was continuous w/ previous tropes to do w/ like being an outsider and whedon's feminism which is connected to ideas about agency and subverting roles. buffy is a p good queer show for teenagers. also buffy is a p good show, well no its awesome.
― plax (ico), Thursday, 17 March 2011 13:39 (fifteen years ago)