howzabout thehose terrorist threats? True or False

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FBI (news - web sites) and Justice Department (news - web sites) officials Thursday defended their decision to warn the public about the potential for a devastating terrorist attack on America this summer, saying it was justified by intelligence and essential to avoid missteps that occurred before the Sept. 11 attacks.

Their defense came amid criticism from lawmakers and some Bush administration officials with access to the same intelligence. They said Wednesday's announcement by Attorney General John Ashcroft (news - web sites) and FBI Director Robert Mueller was overblown and caused unnecessary public concern.


Republican Rep. Christopher Cox of California, chairman of the Homeland Security Committee, said the Ashcroft-Mueller news conference mistakenly led some to believe the nation's threat level had been increased. He called it "regrettable" that Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge did not join Ashcroft and Mueller.
"Their separate public appearances left the impression that the broad and close interagency consultation we expect — and which the law requires — may not have taken place in this case," Cox said.
Homeland Security Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse reiterated Thursday his agency has not seen any change in the "steady stream of threat reporting."
"We do not have any new intelligence or specific information about al-Qaida planning an attack," he said.
Cassandra Chandler, assistant FBI director for public affairs, acknowledged intelligence about the threat has been coming in for some time. However, she said it now is being backed by a higher degree of corroboration.
She said the announcement was intended to demonstrate to Americans and the world that the FBI is focused on trying to thwart an attack. "This clearly demonstrates our commitment to prevention," Chandler said.
Publicity about the threat and the accompanying plea for the public's help in apprehending seven suspected al-Qaida terrorists are a stark contrast to the FBI's actions in the summer of 2001, when intelligence officials warned President Bush (news - web sites) of terror threats in an Aug. 6 memo called "Bin Laden determined to strike in U.S."
Testimony to Congress and the independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks showed the FBI lacked a national, coordinated response to those 2001 threats. Some agents in charge of FBI field offices in large cities were unaware of the magnitude of the threat, and there was no headquarters-led effort to collect counterterrorism intelligence.
This time, before making the latest public announcement, Mueller said he spoke to agents in charge of all 56 field offices about "the heightened threat" and urged them to devote whatever manpower and resources necessary to counter it. The FBI also has a special task force to focus specifically on the threat.
"We don't want to repeat the problems we had in the summer of 2001," said Michael Greenberger, a former counterterrorism official in President Clinton (news - web sites)'s Justice Department and now a University of Maryland professor. "You have to circle the wagons and put on a full-court press. You can't just sit there waiting for actionable intelligence."
New publicity about the seven al-Qaida suspects being sought — six of whom have been pursued by the FBI for months — had generated more than 2,000 tips to an FBI Web site since Wednesday afternoon. It normally receives 200 terrorism-related leads every day.
One discordant note in the new terror threat announcement was the decision by the Homeland Security Department to recommend keeping the color-coded threat level at yellow, the midpoint on a five-color scale. That raised questions as to whether there was dissent in the Bush administration about how to interpret the threat intelligence
"It is confusing that this administration would indicate that al-Qaida is far along the road to planning a major attack in the United States but not raise the threat level," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.
Asa Hutchinson, Homeland Security undersecretary for border and transportation security, attributed the difference to the Justice Department's focus on law enforcement and his agency's focus on efforts to protect the country.
"We're well-coordinated and we're articulating the same message," Hutchinson said.
Justice Department officials also say publicity about terror threats can deter operations, sometimes delaying them to give investigators more time to find the operatives.
"It's part of our strategy to defeat the bad guys," said Justice Department spokesman Mark Corallo. "It puts them on edge."

Am I drunk? Or have I fallen down the rabbit hole?

aimurchie, Thursday, 27 May 2004 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I only just discovered about an hour ago that they arrested some Sheikh they were after right here in Philadelphia. (I think I stumbled on his web-site a while back (pre 9/11). Scarey stuff.)

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 27 May 2004 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)

"It puts them on edge."

Yes. Surely. Especially the part about how we don't know the target, the time or the method of attack. That should have them developing nervous tics.

She said the announcement was intended to demonstrate to Americans and the world that the FBI is focused on trying to thwart an attack.

Not too bright, but damn focused.

Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 27 May 2004 23:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I want to see a US Defence party invitation.

Where: Don't know
When: Don't know
What to bring: Don't know

Pack Yr Romantic Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 27 May 2004 23:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I have a strong suspicion that something of some significance may possibly happen today. But that's all I can say.

Debito (Debito), Thursday, 27 May 2004 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

My cynical spin on the matter is that some time after Ashcroft/Mueller's announcement, they'll noisily arrest some folks they've actually been tracking closely for a while, then Ashcroft can go and say "see, told you these vague warnings that frighten the bejsus out of you thwart bad people from doing bad things."

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 27 May 2004 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

nov 1: "we have reliable intelligence chatter suggesting that if the country does not 'go bush' this coming tuesday, al qaeda will fire electric eels onto the golden gate bridge."

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 27 May 2004 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

but see, there is no "they" anymore. There's some kind of war(s) going on in the administration.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 28 May 2004 01:24 (twenty-two years ago)

"We're well-coordinated and we're articulating the same message," Hutchinson said.
Justice Department officials also say publicity about terror threats can deter operations, sometimes delaying them to give investigators more time to find the operatives.
"It's part of our strategy to defeat the bad guys," said Justice Department spokesman Mark Corallo. "It puts them on edge."

In other news, justification of the US bombing of an Iraqi wedding was attributed to this quote "Sometimes bad guys have parties."

It makes me miss Hoss, Adam, little Joe and Ben. That simple wisdom, that we all learned from our tv viewing of the old west..stand strong and someday, somehow, they'll SEE that you're only preachin what's right!

aimurchie, Friday, 28 May 2004 02:16 (twenty-two years ago)


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