Pushbike query (Pash to thread!)

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I need to sort out my bike. It's my main form of exercsie in the summer, and by Christ I need it. But it need replacement brakes, tyres, inner tubes and a saddle, at the very least. The question is, is it worth refurbishing my current bike (a 1980s Holdsworth sports bike which I'm very comfortable with) or should I just treat myself to a shiny new (and fairly cheap) model?

Any advice (especially from |\|0r|\/|4|\|) much appreciated!

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 May 2004 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Ooh a shiny new one. Me & James got new bikes last summer & I have riden mine exactly twice. (one of those included riding it home from the shop!)

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 28 May 2004 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

can I have the same advice too, norman?

mine is a giant gsr 400, I think, and has lost one of the back gear cogs (the 7th gear, I think.) it used to have 21 gears (7 back, 3 middle). it needs the back tire re-aligned so it doesn't rub against the frame anymore, and it probably needs new tires. how much d'you reckon it'd cost to fix this stuff? is it worth it? it's a good bike, I think.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 28 May 2004 10:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Markelby: if that's all there is wrong with it, you could probably sort it out for less than £60 (Seat £20, Brake blocks & cables £15, tyres & tubes £20) Cheapest way is to buy the bits online and do it yourself, but you could always take it in to a local bike shop and ask them how much it'd cost. If that's all that's wrong with it and you're happy with the frame, definitely hang on to it.

You might find that though that there are other things that are knackered too, like your headset, hubs, drivetrain... all those will start adding up and it might be more sensible to splash out on a new bike. Again, your local shop will assess it for you for nowt.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 28 May 2004 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Ooops, sorry it'd be more like £30 for tyres & tubes. My maths is fucked cuz my wisdom teeth are playing up.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 28 May 2004 10:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Barry, what size are the wheels on your bike?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 28 May 2004 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)

it needs the back tire re-aligned so it doesn't rub against the frame anymore

is the wheel warped? if not just loosen the nuts on the wheel, adjust it a bit so it doesn't rub and bobs yer uncle...no?

mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, 28 May 2004 11:04 (twenty-two years ago)

mine is a giant gsr 400, I think, and has lost one of the back gear cogs (the 7th gear, I think.) it used to have 21 gears (7 back, 3 middle). it needs the back tire re-aligned so it doesn't rub against the frame anymore, and it probably needs new tires. how much d'you reckon it'd cost to fix this stuff? is it worth it? it's a good bike, I think.

As above, have you tried loosening one of the wheelnuts and re-aligning the back wheel?

Usable tyres start at around £8 apiece, better stuff from a tenner upwards. Generally, I prefer to fit schwalbe tyres myself.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 28 May 2004 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I think my tyres are 27 by 1 and a quarter inches - that's from memory, so does it make sense? As for the condition of the bike, I had to replace the entire back gear bit (apols for lack of technicality) when it failed on me in 1994, causing fairly nasty injuries. I've only been riding the bike regularly in the last 3 years, though. As for the saddle, I need one that doesn't cause bruising on my arse bones, and which won't fall back to its lowest setting no matter how tight I do up the bolts.

Further question, then - what's the minimum I should be looking to spend to get a passable new bike with a comfy saddle - I don't want a mountain bike really.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 May 2004 11:50 (twenty-two years ago)

27 x 1 1/4 could be problematical, it's a largely obsolete size that has been supplanted by the slightly smaller european 700c size. you can fit 700c wheels to your bike quite easily, but the brakes might be a problem. Look and see how far down the brake blocks will slide. If they're at the bottom of their travel, you're stuck w/27".

Long term, the best saddle is a Brooks leather saddle, such as the "B17" model (unsprung) or "champion flyer" (sprung) figure on paying approx £30 for one. They need to be "broken in", which isn't so nice, but it's worth it.

Stuff I sell that may be relevant (nb, I try to only sell stuff I like) Schwalbe "marathon" tyre - kevlar belted for puncture resistance, hard-wearing, 30-32 quid a pair. They are available in 27X1 1/4".

brakes - try replacing the cables and blocks first. Cables rusting inside and seizing = nr 1 problem w/brakes. Make sure you get teflon-lined outer casing. Check the pivot bolt that goes through the middle - is it siezed up? Oil it, and see if you can free it up.

Road bikes, what used to be called "racers" are a minority thing now - there aren't many cheap models, and to be honest, most cheap (read; under 200 quid) bikes are shit. Dearer bikes all come with 9-speed sprockets which can be problematical, and the parts are expensive. Second-hand, it's a buyers market. For the last 2 years, more bikes have been imported into britain than actually sold. Used, look for a Dawes Galaxy or Super-Galaxy from a few years ago, and bargain hard. Taske along someone who knows about bikes to check it over so you don't get sold a knackered old dog.

DO NOT buy something that just needs a few gear/brake parts replaced at the moment. Sh|M4N0 has fukced up in some way, and parts are very slow to arrive, like 190 day lead times are being quoted for some stuff.

If you are purely commuting, buy a new Brompton.

Inner tubes - Im used to sell michelin and schwalbe, but Raleigh's own brand is just as good, and a lot cheaper. 700c inner tubes will fit 27" tyres.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 28 May 2004 12:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Crikey! Thanks so much for that - I always feel cheeky asking for professional advice for free. I'm tempted to go the 2nd hand route, though I really don't know anyone who'd be able to be my expert.

I'd be sad in a way to get rid of the Holdsworth - although the brand name was bought by inferior manufacturers years ago, my local bike shop is THE original shop, and still holds the name, where the marque started out 80 or so years ago.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 May 2004 12:58 (twenty-two years ago)

You wanna come to cambridge mark, plenty of second hand bike shops here! grrrrr!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 28 May 2004 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Brooks B17 is the king of saddles. I miss mine so much.

Ed (dali), Friday, 28 May 2004 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

um, while we're here is it ok to ask: if the gears (read gear levers) don't seem to want to move what do i need to do?

mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, 28 May 2004 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

thank you, norman!!!

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 30 May 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)


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