What happens when you pull out and start again?

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Has anyone here completely dropped out of a career path, due to unhappiness/unfulfilment, and gone in a completely different direction? If so, how did it feel? Did it pay off? Are you sorry you did it?

Cheers

Pack Yr Romantic Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 29 May 2004 04:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Been thinking about it a lot lately, actually. I'm going to see a career coach next week.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 May 2004 04:53 (twenty-two years ago)

you know given the title, I really did think this was about something altogether different.

Anyhow, I didn't have acareer per se, but after working for three years fulltime in the photographic industry, I packed it in and went back to uni. Despite how I feel about it at this very moment, it makes me happy to think I won't be working a shitkicking job my entire life now. Highly recommended.

ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Saturday, 29 May 2004 04:54 (twenty-two years ago)

E-e-excellent.

For what it's worth, I'm currently in IT and loathing it, but I'm studying IT part-time as well, and loathing it. As a result I'm getting exactly nil pleasure out of life, and really starting to wonder if I wouldn't be better off getting out of IT entirely and doing something I actually enjoy.

Been thinking about it a lot lately, actually. I'm going to see a career coach next week.

Me too, Thursday morning. The lady at the coaching place said they ignore what I'm skilled/experienced in, and focus completely on what I like and what I'm good at.

My main reservation is having to throw away more than three years of the degree I've half-completed; but if it's this painful, am I mad to keep doing it?

Pack Yr Romantic Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 29 May 2004 04:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh dear, I see what you mean by the thread title. Lord have Mersey.

Pack Yr Romantic Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 29 May 2004 05:03 (twenty-two years ago)

i just did this, and we'll see how it goes.

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 29 May 2004 05:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh dear, I see what you mean by the thread title. Lord have Mersey.

I'm just horrendously crass I'm afraid.

ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Saturday, 29 May 2004 05:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha I though it too ne'er mind that ;)

Adam Ive been thru this before. I worked in the govt for 7 years in a truly dead-end role, no chance for advancement (as Idve had to go back to Canberra for that and I wasnt going to). One day at that job this woman I worked with mentioned RMIT's Professional Writing and Editing diploma and in a fit of inspiration I picked myself up, worked up a CV/portfolio and applied.

I not only got in, apparently I came top of the applicants (!!!). It was a fantastic change and one I dont regret in the slightest, as it not only helped me focus my writing but introduced me to the internet/web/DTP/design which is where Im at now.

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 29 May 2004 06:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha, having said that now I'm looking for a new career path again cos even IT has dead ends. But hey, shit happens.

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 29 May 2004 06:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Writing and Editing Diploma? I didn't know there was any such thing. Wow. You've got me thinking.

This career-change lark sounds better by the minute.

Pack Yr Romantic Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 29 May 2004 06:27 (twenty-two years ago)

"I'm just horrendously crass I'm afraid."

Naw, I thought this this thread was gonna be about something different as well.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 29 May 2004 06:39 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm fairly positive I will have to do this myself since I work in tech and unless something happens, my sort of job will probably vanish stateside because of outsourcing within the next few years. however, I have no other skills, so I guess I'm fucked.

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 29 May 2004 06:45 (twenty-two years ago)

After quitting Cambridge, I took up accountancy. Did it for several years then decided I found it tedious and annoying, so stopped. Started editing and writing a mag about comic books, and that led to an enjoyable pro career in that field. That lasted a while, and eventually crumbled so I had to start again. In fact this time I went for IT - I was too old to take many risks, and I thought I needed something stable. I'm pretty happy with it - I'm a systems analyst at a top university now, and it's interesting and it pays me well.

I'd recommend paying some attention to your abilities, not just your tastes. I mean, I'd love to be a pop star, but that doesn't make it a good career move (age 44, unattractive, horrible voice - my chances seem limited), and I don't mean financially, I mean in terms of finding something satisfying. I'm also beginning to accept that I may never score the winning goal in the World Cup Final. On the other hand, I wonder if I'd pursued ideas of writing (comics, criticism, that kind of thing) with more vigour and confidence if I might have something more rewarding now.

I think age and level of responsibility is a big factor: if you are young and without dependents, I'd certainly say have a good shot at things you might enjoy before settling into something that's only okay but reliable.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 29 May 2004 07:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Adam - if you havent heard of the course I did, do find out about it, I assume it's still running. If you do go for it - do it at RMIT, not anywhere else (eg Box Hill) that way you get decent writers as tutes/lecturers. I loved the course and I'd do it again I enjoyed it so much. It is so much more hands-on than uni. We had some fantastic speakers, writers for like TV soaps, mags, war journos and stuff plus editing/proofreading, writing for kids, tech writing, whatever floats yr boat. And its TAFE so it is loads cheaper than uni. If you wanna chat abt it email me or lets catch up for a booz.

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 29 May 2004 07:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Also Martin has a very good point - if you have no heavy responsibilities, go for it, you have nothing holding you back really :)

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 29 May 2004 07:36 (twenty-two years ago)

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I'd recommend paying some attention to your abilities, not just your tastes.

That's what I want to do. Fortunately, I think I'm good at most of the things I enjoy. I guess I'll find out more when I go in for this career coaching thing, because their job is to tell me what I'm good at, and what careers can be had by exploiting those skills.

I think age and level of responsibility is a big factor: if you are young and without dependents, I'd certainly say have a good shot at things you might enjoy before settling into something that's only okay but reliable.

I'm 30 and have no kids, but kids might happen in the next 2-3 years, so whatever I end up doing must be reasonably solid and well-paying. But, my main goal now is to enjoy what I do. In all seriousness I've hated every job I've had since the late '90s, and I know it shouldn't be that way.

These personal accounts and tips are ace, thanks everyone.

Pack Yr Romantic Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 29 May 2004 07:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, there's definitely nothing holding me back, as long as I can find something that pays enough. That's probably the tricky bit.

Pack Yr Romantic Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 29 May 2004 07:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, I'm 50. In my 20s and 30s I had a banking career going. I got steamed one day and packed it all in, moved to another state, and bought a house with NOTHING on the horizon. It's been an ongoing adventure to this day. Presently I work 3 part-time jobs, all in different fields. The mortgage is current and life is pretty darn good.

I realize this kind of career path isn't for everyone, but it has been mine and I have enjoyed life a whole lot more.

jim wentworth (wench), Sunday, 30 May 2004 02:43 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread simply can't compete with the title.

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 30 May 2004 06:28 (twenty-two years ago)

How do you do things like go from being an accountant to writing about and editing comic books though?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Sunday, 30 May 2004 06:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I seem to keep doing this.

I did maths at uni (zero computer content) then went to work as a computer programmer, quit that to do a maths Phd, finished that, was a teacher for a year, quit that to do journalism or something which I didn't get a job at, just a couple of work experience things which led on to work as a general admin person at a music related company.

I also have a sideline in photography which pays sometimes.

But my main thing is music...

mei (mei), Sunday, 30 May 2004 06:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I gave up accountancy, then started a small magazine about comic books - this was just an interest, not a career move. I was living on the dole for a while, as the mag barely broke even, if that. But it was well received and grew some; then the editor of a bigger critical mag was moving into pro comics and asked me to take over his mag. I did, improved it lots, upped its critical standards greatly, went to colour covers and paying contributors, and tripled the sales. Then a distribution company wanted to get into publishing, and hired me to start a line for them. I'm not suggesting that this is a workable career plan at all, just an illustration that pursuing your interests can lead to a career in the same field.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 30 May 2004 10:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I wanna hear from some mothers about this

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 30 May 2004 11:51 (twenty-two years ago)

horrible voice

This is an obstacle to being a pop star?

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Sunday, 30 May 2004 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway, I am once again thinking a lot about career change. My job has become much more tolerable recently. It was really horrible for a while. But I am still faced with a lot of boredom at work. I don't have any real plans, beyond the idea of learning a couple foreign languages I want to learn anyway, and hoping that increases my job possibilities.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Sunday, 30 May 2004 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I almost did this
but decided not to, just
changed positions here

but my new thing gives
me MORE flexibility
plus a lot more fun

and my crazy dream
of striking out on my own
now remains ALIVE

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 30 May 2004 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

"my new thing" = "my new position at my current company", DAN PERRY DON'T TRY IT

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 30 May 2004 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)

At the end of this year I'm probably going to drop out of my second year of Software Engineering, quit my job as a Systems Developer, and study Psychology full-time with the intention getting a bachelor degree, a masters, and eventually becoming a Clinical Psycologist.

I've been really pleased that some of my close friends have reacted positively about this new direction. A couple of years ago I suggested something similar and I was essentially laughed at. I guess I've changed...

Andrew (enneff), Sunday, 30 May 2004 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

This week when i was bell hopping for alumni i spoke to a woman who initially got her masters in music and taught at the college level for a while before completely changing directions and going to work for S.S.Barney.

D Aziz (esquire1983), Sunday, 30 May 2004 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Andrew that sounds really interesting and cool - hope it works out for you!

I would dearly LOVE to use my possible loss of job at the year's end as a chance to go back and study (thinking graphic design/multimedia, maybe photography... not sure). Problem is a uni degree is out of the question with HECS the way it is now. I suppose I could do a shorter intensive course at a specialist grafx college or something, but I'll be 10 years older than everyone else... and I cant really afford study unless my partner starts earning what I am now to support us both... arrrgh.

How the hell do people get jobs like writing reviews for PC games mags and that kinda shit? That would be so much fun.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 30 May 2004 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)

(Also, Martin's "do what youre good at, rather than what you like" comment has me thinking cuz a lot of what I like, Im not sure I am that good at :/)

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 30 May 2004 23:09 (twenty-two years ago)

One thing to remember, in this very upsetting world we live in, is that we all DO have the ability to constantly recreate ourselves. We (the greater we, and the Western we)may have traded stability for the chance for personal evolution. It's horizontal, vs. vertical, movement.
Having kids, or a desire to do so, is definitely a factor - as one who chooses not to, I don't have to lick my finger to see which way the wind is blowing in order to gauge financial stability for my family.
I think the best scenario for all people is to constantly remain educated by consistently exploring new paths - this is as true for a ladder climbing executive as it is for a ladder climbing landscaper.
America is based on very linear and vertical achievement models, and I think it can become dismaying at times when those models stop working. (especially when they're, like, Cindy Crawford! Kidding.)
As long as you feel safe pulling out - do it. I have lived my entire thirty plus years with no savings and no investments and no security. Sometimes (especially if i drink wine by myself) I get very sad about it. But mostly I think, y'know, maybe my heart and soul are meant to roll along with the vagaries of life (and vagrants, at times) because I would rather know people than know things.
I feel a big diatribe about the post-industrial state coming on.... just don't let anyone tell you that you are seeking happiness, or contentment. You are seeking knowledge. Good luck.

aimurchie, Monday, 31 May 2004 00:59 (twenty-two years ago)

hope money isn't a concern for you, Andrew.

ooops, Monday, 31 May 2004 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I have decided I want a career in foreign policy/international affairs but I haven't a clear idea yet on how to get started. (My BA is liberal arts but not polysci and I can't afford to do an MA in international relations or the like right now...) It's a dilemma.

daria g (daria g), Monday, 31 May 2004 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)

hope money isn't a concern for you, Andrew.

Why? Counselors make enough to get by, don't they?

Andrew (enneff), Monday, 31 May 2004 03:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Did oops post that or someone else? Seems kinda un-oopslike.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 31 May 2004 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Count me in as another soon-to-be IT expatriot. I'm coupling it with a move and elimination of most of my stuff too as I figure that I might as well get it all over with at once.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 31 May 2004 07:04 (twenty-two years ago)

'Toads'

Why should I let the toad work
Squat on my life?
Can't I use my wit as a pitchfork
And drive the brute off?

Six days of the week it soils
With its sickening poison -
Just for paying a few bills!
That's out of proportion.

Lots of folk live on their wits:
Lecturers, lispers,
Losels, loblolly-men, louts-
They don't end as paupers;

Lots of folk live up lanes
With fires in a bucket,
Eat windfalls and tinned sardines-
they seem to like it.

Their nippers have got bare feet,
Their unspeakable wives
Are skinny as whippets - and yet
No one actually starves.

Ah, were I courageous enough
To shout Stuff your pension!
But I know, all too well, that's the stuff
That dreams are made on:

For something sufficiently toad-like
Squats in me, too;
Its hunkers are heavy as hard luck,
And cold as snow,

And will never allow me to blarney
My way of getting
The fame and the girl and the money
All at one sitting.

I don't say, one bodies the other
One's spiritual truth;
But I do say it's hard to lose either,
When you have both.

- P. Larkin

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 31 May 2004 11:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Trayce, I don't think I said or meant that you should do what you're good at instead of what you like: just that ignoring what you are good at and what you aren't may lead to trying something that you'll never be good at, which seems unlikely to lead to satisfaction or success. I'm all in favour of trying things you like, giving it your best shot, but the ideal is finding some good overlap area between what you like and what you are good at.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 31 May 2004 11:31 (twenty-two years ago)

So, i'm supposed to be going to see this career coach/vocational councelor tomorrow (although he's yet to confirm our appointment, somewhat worryingly). I've spoken with him a few times on the phone, and his approach already seems a big Stuart Smalley-esque (rhyming self-help catchphrases, etc.) I also have to fill-out a questionaire first, which leans a litle heavily towards headshrinkery (lots of questions about my personal life, etc.) I'm doing my damndest to suppress my cynicism and remain open-minded, but it's not easy. I'm also skipping whole passages of the questionaire on the gounds that I don't find them applicable to my situation. Anyway, we'll see.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I had my second session yesterday. Mine doesn't do the wank-talk thing, apart from saying 'moving forward' a bit much. I had to do some not-invasive personality type questionnaires, and they didn't tell me anything I didn't already know about myself, but they did guide me toward potential careers, which I kind of knew already.

Anyway, it's been a huge help, because now that I've actually written down all my likes and dislikes, and discussed it all with her, I'm getting a really good idea of the types of jobs that would suit me. She's helping me with that bit now. It's looking like system development or technical writing, either of which would suit me.

New No New Age Advanced Ambient Motor Music Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 10 June 2004 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I am doing something completely different to what I started out doing. So far, it's great.

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Thursday, 10 June 2004 01:19 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...
More lazy career related questions:

How does one get paid to be a trend-watcher? Let's say I wanted to go into analyzing trends, presumably from a marketing point of view: is there anything I could at this point to get into that type of position? I have the double whammy of a BA in English and an MLS. Would I need to get a third degree, in business? I know I would need to come up to speed with statistical analysis, one way or another.

Is it even obtainable by conventional means (get x degree, for starters), or is it a matter of projecting oneself convincingly as a trends guru? (Start blog/newsletter, whatever, find small-scale consulting jobs. . .)

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 2 April 2007 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Much more the latter. I have a friend who is a power in this business and she wouldn't recognize a statistic if it bit her. She just keeps her eye closely on trendsetters' doings, from up close (at parties and such), and sells her analyses to corporate interests.

eater, Monday, 2 April 2007 16:20 (nineteen years ago)


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