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Brilliant thanks. I’m off to watch Quagmire now.

For me X-Files is like one of those albums you only listen to your favourite 2 tracks on. Every time I want to rewatch, I think “fuck it I’ll just watch the Darin Morgan episodes again”. The brutal undercutting of Mulder in the Jim Rose episode still makes me laugh.

Having said that, the thing under the bed at the end of “Home” might be where the series peaked for me.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 12 March 2021 13:57 (three years ago) link

Quagmire is one of the coziest X-Files to watch, it's low stakes (well not the 4-5 people who get killed) and the Darin Morgan rewrites add a bit of humor but not too much, plus of course it has the Conversation on the Rock!

so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Friday, 12 March 2021 15:18 (three years ago) link

Yeah aren't they stuck on that rock in the dark for like 20 minutes? That had to have been the cheapest 20 minutes the producers ever paid for.

Stefan Twerkelle (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 March 2021 15:39 (three years ago) link

I love that episode, the dialogue is just so snappy, thanks to Darin Morgan. Love the conversation on the rock, you can see Scully being this close to just writing Mulder off as a complete dick, and then he quotes her favorite book at her and goddamit, she's back on board.

Lily Dale, Friday, 12 March 2021 15:45 (three years ago) link

not quite that, but it was about 5 minutes out of a 43-minute episode... one thing I've found funny about rewatching this show in the present is how much the dialog (which seemed perfectly modern in the 90s) now sounds like something out of a 50s b-movie... like from Quagmire, you have the frog scientist during the opening scene portentously shouting "don't turn your back on nature... or nature will turn its back on you!"

so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Friday, 12 March 2021 15:55 (three years ago) link

After two decades of 24/Bourne/SEAL Team/et al. the MP SWAT team in the second episode looks like a group of high school kids playing paintball.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 12 March 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link

I haven't watched the show since the original run, so I was startled by how great the remastered episodes look on a 21st century television ... it's made a pleasing contrast to my trek through the sub-VHS blur of Dark Shadows c. 1969

Brad C., Friday, 12 March 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link

yeah its gorgeous

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 March 2021 18:47 (three years ago) link

i am only 2 episodes in but the s1e2 Deep Throat ep was such a great fever-dream of alien conspiracy tropes. it’s like watching reddit being born lol (but in a good way)

also: Seth Green :D

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 March 2021 18:50 (three years ago) link

I’d add Terms of Endearment as a S6 ep worth watching.

Perhaps a more controversial choice would be The Field Where I Died from S4. Widely disliked when it came out, but some, me included, have grown to love it.

Badlaa is one of the better examples of a bad XF episode - so many things wrong with it, but it still manages to be pretty enjoyable!

Duane Barry, Saturday, 13 March 2021 01:22 (three years ago) link

A really controversial choice is S7's Sein und Zeit/Closure, where Mulder's mom dies by suicide and Mulder hugs Samantha's ghost in a field while Moby appropriates a traditional Melanesian song in the background. Many people hate it; I think it's clumsy but also quite beautiful, and anchored by really solid acting from Duchovny.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 13 March 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link

awww forgot about babyface Donal Logue

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 13 March 2021 01:55 (three years ago) link

at my office we printed out a copy of the homeless person's drawing and use it to surprise and annoy our co-workers by acting like there's some important document we need them to see and then showing them that.

this keeps popping up in my mind and cracking me up

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 13 March 2021 03:59 (three years ago) link

https://i.redd.it/ghb7efs8ix351.jpg

Stefan Twerkelle (Old Lunch), Saturday, 13 March 2021 04:56 (three years ago) link

Sorry to spoil that the Jersey Devil is actually Ric Ocasek

Stefan Twerkelle (Old Lunch), Saturday, 13 March 2021 04:59 (three years ago) link

My house rewatch just got to Season 4, which means we got to watch the scene where Mulder dumps gasoline all over his head and into his eyes and then is like, "You'll have to lead me! I can't see!"

Lily Dale, Saturday, 13 March 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link

First absolute dog of an episode, episode 9, "Space."

Joe Bombin (milo z), Monday, 15 March 2021 03:27 (three years ago) link

We watched ep3 tonight - “Squeeze”
TOOOOOOOOMS D:

First Morgan & Wong-penned episode! first flashlight scene! the dialogue feels noticeably snappier in places, some v good laugh out loud lines (“what’s the quickest way to get this off me without betraying my cool-guy exterior”)

I lovw how the mythology of Tooms is laid out with ~just~ enough breadcrumbs - bitsized info to make it creepy & wtf but no deepdive attempt at explanation to take you out of it.

Still as creepy as the first time I saw it. Maybe even more so now since it was established that Doug Hutchinson is an irl actual creep.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 March 2021 05:02 (three years ago) link

Squeeze! I love that the first monster-of-the-week episode is such a good one. Is that the one that also has the Mulder line, "Sometimes the need to mess with their heads outweighs the millstone of humiliation?"

I noticed at some point that Mick Jagger on the Ed Sullivan Show looks freakishly like Tooms when he's just about to eat a liver, and now I can't unsee it. Look at him around the 20-second mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ANhU4AcK04

Lily Dale, Monday, 15 March 2021 05:52 (three years ago) link

SCULLY: You're so consumed by your personal vengeance against life, whether it be its inherent cruelties or mysteries, everything takes on a warped significance to fit your megalomaniacal cosmology.

MULDER: Scully, are you coming on to me?

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 15 March 2021 12:46 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

milo otm re S1E9 Space

definitely a dud. even as a space nerd, i was trying to find something to like about it but it’s just so “...huh”?

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 12 April 2021 05:29 (three years ago) link

Yeah if I remember it just blunders on and nothing really great happens. A shame because I like the actor who plays the astronaut hero, Ed something? (fuck google imo)

Diggin Holes (Ste), Monday, 12 April 2021 11:31 (three years ago) link

oh Ed Lauter, remember him from Family Plot

Diggin Holes (Ste), Monday, 12 April 2021 11:34 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

In the second half of Duane Barry/Ascension, Krycek pistol whips the tram operator and temporarily stops the tram, Mulder never asks what happened with the tram and somehow the operator doesn’t complain to anyone?

Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 9 May 2021 04:16 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Season 4 with all the conspiracy stuff leading into cancer stuff is kind of a drag.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 04:34 (two years ago) link

I think some of the conspiracy episodes that season are highlights - the black oil one where everyone is constantly beating up Krycek is pretty fun, and the UFO/plane crash episodes are really well done if completely bonkers. The cancer stuff is a drag, and there are an awful lot of flat and depressing monster-of-the-weeks that I never feel compelled to rewatch. And there’s the chupacabra episode.

JoeStork, Saturday, 5 June 2021 05:43 (two years ago) link

Watching two a night instead of one a week, the clash between conspiracy-then we're just FBI agents checkin' out a case-never mention that cult that committed mass suicide again-back to conspiracy is jarring.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

The chupacabra episode was the least offensive of the run of 'exploring other cultures' episodes but I'm so happy that I'm past almost all of them.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link

I do find some of the S4 conspiracy episodes a bit aimless and boring (just wait until you get to Redux in S5!), but really like Tempus Fugit/Max, partly because it has an actual narrative and feels coherent, and has some good characters.

Leonard Betts was one of the best XF monsters-of-the-week. He's essentially another Tooms/2Shy variant, but a sympathetic one. Teliko is a bit rubbish though.

The Chupacabra episode was commonly known as "El Mucho Sucko" back in the day

Duane Barry, Saturday, 5 June 2021 21:06 (two years ago) link

I like Tempus Fugit/ Max as well, and I'm not usually a fan of the conspiracy episodes. I love the opening scene in the bar with the keychain; it might be the warmest, most natural Mulder & Scully hanging out scene in the whole show.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 5 June 2021 22:11 (two years ago) link

I just started rewatching this last night and was trying to decide if I should try to slog through every episode or be more selective. I guess I might as well go for it, at least to begin with.

MrDasher, Saturday, 5 June 2021 22:14 (two years ago) link

xp I did a season 4 rewatch a while back and I agree that season is all over the place. some really high highs and really low lows. Where are you in the season now?

Lily Dale, Saturday, 5 June 2021 22:58 (two years ago) link

Just before Tempus Fugit. Leonard Betts was great, and I liked the Scully tattoo episode of the last few.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link

The Lone Gunmen recounting the supposed life of the Cigarette Smoking Man is another highlight. What if George HW Bush was also a frustrated action novelist?

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link

Well, at least George W. finally got to paint dogs and wounded veterans from his wars (also interviewed them, I think)(the veterans, not the dogs?)

dow, Saturday, 5 June 2021 23:56 (two years ago) link

Which reminds me, I liked the episode that told how Scully got her dog.

dow, Saturday, 5 June 2021 23:58 (two years ago) link

The dog getting eaten also A+.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 23:59 (two years ago) link

I guess that 'queg getting eaten

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 6 June 2021 00:16 (two years ago) link

One in between: Mulder peeking in Scully's (motel?) window, sees her blowdrying dog, big cig hanging out of her mouth, near the doggie.

dow, Sunday, 6 June 2021 00:19 (two years ago) link

The chupacabra episode was the least offensive of the run of 'exploring other cultures' episodes but I'm so happy that I'm past almost all of them.

― Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, June 5, 2021 9:20 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

They're all awful but the Chinese one is probably the most offensive.

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 02:21 (two years ago) link

I find the chupacabra one to be one of the worst because of the "it's a telenovela!" conceit. It wouldn't be quite so bad if everyone was acting like a telenovela character, including Mulder and Scully, but Mulder and Scully are acting like their normal selves (though more callous than usual), so you end up with all the Latinx characters being hyper-emotional and melodramatic and Mulder and Scully making fun of them.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 02:41 (two years ago) link

The effects in the Inca episode have not aged well.

Kaddish was pretty bad as well.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 02:48 (two years ago) link

The Duchovny-directed ‘wot if Jackie Robinson was an alien’ episode is still to come.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 02:51 (two years ago) link

Kaddish didn't bother me as much for some reason; it struck me as pretty respectful if a bit flat story-wise, but then I am the most non-practicing of Jews so it's not my area of expertise.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 02:53 (two years ago) link

I’m curious if they actually thought Roma was just short for Romanian in the cursed stillborn twin episode.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 02:56 (two years ago) link

xp and Duchovny-written, right? I actually like that one in spite of myself. It's just such an accurate and loving pastiche of the whole baseball movie genre, I can't not like it despite its obvious flaws.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 02:57 (two years ago) link

yeah, written too. that one mainly comes off as Duchovny being well-meaning but cheesy and doofy in many directions at once

his later meta-satirical ep w/ Garry Shandling and Tea Leoni is similarly unfocused but much better

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 03:21 (two years ago) link

The thing I really like about the Duchov-written episodes is that they aren't Mulder-centric and they show a very warm and funny and charming side of Scully. I'm sure he's a tool in real life, but as a writer/director of the X-Files he does not make it all about him and I appreciate that.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 03:46 (two years ago) link

I wish beefier douchebag Californication Duchovny wasn't the image that popped into my head of him vs. Mulder.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 05:34 (two years ago) link

Was watching rando old eps but then my gf decided she just wanted to full-on rewatch so I guess that's what's happening now!

Anyway, 'Beyond the Sea' just never gets any less good.

Jerome Percival Jesus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:55 (two years ago) link


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