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Embattled Chavez Taps Oil Cash In a Social, Political Experiment


By Kevin Sullivan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Friday, June 18, 2004; Page A19


CARACAS, Venezuela, June 17 -- Miguel Antonio Castillo, 60, never finished high school. His dreams of being an engineer walked out the door with his father all those years ago, so he raised his 11 children on his wages as a day laborer.

But now he spends three hours every day in a classroom, puzzling out the riddles of math and reading. By sometime next year he'll have a diploma and pride he has never known -- all paid for by Venezuela's state-run oil company.

"Our president is giving me a chance to make my dream a reality," said Castillo, one of thousands of Venezuelans who receive schooling, and a monthly cash payment of $50 to $100, from Petroleos de Venezuela as part of a multibillion-dollar social and political experiment being conducted by President Hugo Chavez that has provoked a storm of criticism.

Chavez's government plans to spend at least $1.7 billion -- and perhaps twice that -- in oil revenue this year on social programs ranging from subsidized food to classes on literacy, farming, hair-styling and auto mechanics. Chavez has said his goal is a "social transformation" that will "redistribute national income" into the hands of the millions of poor people who have long been denied access to this country's vast oil riches.

But critics say Chavez is pandering to the poor to save his political career and gambling irresponsibly with the long-term fiscal health of a state company that provides half the country's revenue.

"He is killing the goose that laid the golden egg," said Ramon Espinasa, an oil industry consultant at the Inter-American Development Bank who was the oil company's chief economist from 1992 to 1999. Espinasa said Chavez was spending money that the oil company needs to invest in maintenance and modernization to keep its production from falling off.

Chavez's spending program is accelerating two months before a national referendum on whether to recall a president who has become a lightning rod for criticism across Latin America and in Washington. With his fiery, class-driven rhetoric and now his plans to spread oil wealth in Venezuela's poorest neighborhoods, Chavez has enflamed this country's already contentious schism between the wealthy, who generally oppose him, and his millions of impoverished supporters.

After trying to force Chavez from office with a military-led coup in 2002, then a two-month strike at the oil company that began late last year and cost Venezuela billions of dollars in revenue, his opponents succeeded in collecting enough signatures to force a recall referendum, scheduled for Aug. 15. Both sides are preparing for a bruising campaign: Opponents claim that Chavez's government has fired workers who supported the recall, while Chavez this week called his adversaries "crazy."

A defeat for Chavez would delight the Bush administration, which has been at odds with him since he was elected in 1998 professing admiration for Cuba's Fidel Castro and disgust with the U.S.-style market economics that now dominate the region. When Chavez was briefly ousted in the 2002 coup, the U.S. government quickly moved to endorse the new government, only to see Chavez regain power a few days later.

It remains unclear whether a defeat in the recall would mean Chavez would leave the political scene. The Supreme Court ruled this week that if Chavez were ousted in the referendum, he could run again in the next regularly scheduled elections in 2006. The court did not clarify whether Chavez could run in elections to choose an interim president to serve until 2006 -- that is, whether he could run to replace himself.

A Spike in Social Spending


Chavez, a former army colonel, is leading an aggressive effort to win the referendum in this country of 24 million people, about twice the area of California. He began his high-profile spending last year, building housing and wells, turning oil company offices into classrooms and starting a national literacy campaign.

Most of the programs are directly funded and administered by the oil company. It has budgeted $1.7 billion for social projects this year, up from just a few million in past years. And Chavez recently said that he would funnel another $2 billion of company revenue into a social spending account. This week, Chavez announced that from now on, he would refer to the company as "Petroleos del Pueblo de Venezuela," the oil company of the "people of Venezuela."

At the same time, Chavez has unsuccessfully pressured the autonomous central bank to hand over $1 billion from the country's $24 billion in foreign reserves, which come mostly from oil revenue.

"Historically, petroleum income was distributed so that most of it went to the privileged elite," said Willian Lara, a key Chavez ally in the National Assembly. "Since Chavez became president, he has begun distributing petroleum income for economic development. The Venezuelan people are the owners of petroleum, so it is logical that the owners of the petroleum should get the benefit." Lara said criticism that the social programs would harm the oil company were "nothing more than propaganda to make the Chavez government look bad."

But Alfredo Keller, a pollster and political analyst, said Chavez was trying to "buy loyalty to maintain power" and "using the oil industry as a political weapon."

Keller said Chavez was playing on the fears of a nation where 67 percent of the people live in poverty, 35 percent live in extreme poverty, three-quarters of the population is either unemployed or works in the informal sector, and there have been 43,000 homicides in the past five years.

Keller said Chavez, who has about 37 percent support in recent opinion polls, has calculated that winning votes before the recall election is more important than the long-term damage his social spending could cause the oil company.

To achieve his goals, Chavez is using a $40 billion-a-year company with which he has had tortured relations. Many of its top managers at the time were responsible for a strike that began in December 2002 and lasted until February 2003. The strike virtually halted production, and cost billions of dollars in revenue to the company and to foreign oil companies that operate here, including ChevronTexaco Corp., ConocoPhillips and Exxon Mobil Corp.

Chavez fired about half of the company's nearly 40,000 workers, mainly those involved in important planning, financial and engineering departments. While government officials have said that oil production has returned to prestrike levels of at least 3.1 million barrels a day, analysts across the industry estimate that the true levels are about 2.5 or 2.6 million barrels. They said that the company's loss of experienced managers, combined with Chavez's decision to funnel profits into social programs instead of maintenance and improvements, have left the company struggling to recover.

"You don't get rid of your key technical staff and lose your most precious human capital -- that's not a political policy, it's stupidity," said Orlando Ochoa, an economics professor at Catholic University in Caracas. "There have been excesses of power in the past, but this is a Guinness record."

Prices Up, Investment Down


Venezuela has the largest oil reserves outside the Middle East, with proven reserves of nearly 78 billion barrels.

It is among the top four suppliers of oil to the United States, behind Canada and Mexico and just ahead of Saudi Arabia, and it sells its products through Citgo, its Tulsa-based retail arm. Venezuela exports about 1.34 million barrels of oil a day to the United States, 13 percent of U.S. imports, according to March statistics.

Espinasa said the company needs to reinvest at least $6 billion a year in revenue just to maintain current production levels. He said the company reinvested about $7 billion in 1997, the year before Chavez's election, but only $2.5 billion last year. Chavez's social spending, he said, would make it impossible for the company to maintain its current production, let alone meet its publicly stated goal of increasing production to 5 million barrels a day within five years.

"Their plan says one thing, but the reality says otherwise," Espinasa said. "This is all lip service."

Venezuela and other oil-producing countries have been swimming in cash this year as oil prices have hit their highest prices in more than a decade. Analysts said Venezuelan oil has averaged just over $30 a barrel in 2004, up from about $25 last year.

Espinasa said the higher revenue is providing a temporary "disguise" for Chavez's spending. He said that with the extra money currently in the coffers, Chavez can spend without drawing attention to the long-term damage it could cause in an economy in which GDP dropped 8.9 percent in 2002 then another 9.4 percent last year, in part because of the strike.

At the Caracas school where Castillo was studying for his high school diploma, every one of the 30 or so students, ranging in age from 19 to 78, said they planned to vote for Chavez in the referendum. Belkis Carrillo Ibarra, 33, who wants to become a nurse, said she was so grateful for the opportunity that she planned to register to vote for the first time in her life.

"With Chavez, finally someone is helping the poor," she said. "This will be my first vote, and I will vote for him."

© 2004 The Washington Post Company

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 18 June 2004 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Dammit, only rich folk should be pandered to. They know how to handle it.

Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

what about pandaing to the poor?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Pandas have a hard time "performing", h.

jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I was so hoping this was about the band.

Comment dits-on...eh... le NA? (Nick A.), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:38 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, me too

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Though it would be more likely that they would be accused of "pandering to those who like to be rocked."

Comment dits-on...eh... le NA? (Nick A.), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Panda-meat Indie Fuxxxxors.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

This could be an interesting vacation of mine, next month's trip...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 June 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

take a videocamera, Ned, and get on Democracy Now!

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Dammit I'm late to the party with hoping this was about the band...

Someone should start a thread.

martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 18 June 2004 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Chavez accused of "riding the fader"

martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 18 June 2004 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I think maybe I started a Chavez thread on ILM a long time ago.

St. Nicholas Ridiculous (Nick A.), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

That's one of the oddest articles I've read in a long time. I'm always amazed that so many US Americans vote when the Republicans and the Democrats both pander to the rich and ignore the poor. Still we all know that big companies are better entrusted to the rich (like Enron) than the people...

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

eight years pass...

RIP big guy.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

apparently so, AP reporting it.

Neil S, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

Bam will hv the CIA calling the shots in a year, rite?

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

MORBZ FOR VENEZUELAN PREZNIT

First order of business: beisbol beisbol beisbol.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

thats lol at chavez dying not at ned's post

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

haha @ both

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo4y23JGrE1qcrzkko1_500.gif

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/05/us-venezuela-chavez-idUSBRE92405420130305

Neil S, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

the caribbean series is in VZ next winter, id love to go.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

Boy THAT'S a mindfart on my part. Zombie Chavez already.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

I can hear the pots and pans banging from several neighborhoods.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:22 (thirteen years ago)

the advantages of being a mod

nostormo, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

literally, alfred?

goole, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

literally!

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

Doral is two miles north.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

Just asked my friend in Caracas: "What now?" Her response: "I have no fucking clue. I really don't." So hmm.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

damn

xp

goole, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

ugh Facebook will be insufferable tongiht

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

"Why do you look like Chad Hugo?"
"Because you don't know what Hugo Chavez looks like."

(c) 2013

C: (crüt), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

ugh @ Billy Bragg RIPing him on FB

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

really sad. can't find a youtube of Too Much Joy playing "Hugo".

how's life, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

George Takei
Well, no one lives forever. When Hugo, Hugo.
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i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

Hmm...

The death of Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez has given free rein to fears that Cuba will plunge into an economic abyss again if Caracas halts its subsidies, estimated at well above the massive aid that the Soviet Union once provided to Havana.

“The impact of a cutoff will be that the crisis we now have will turn into chaos, because the Cuban government has no other source of financing,” said Miriam Leiva, a Havana dissident and former Cuban diplomat.

Havana now gets two-thirds of its domestic oil consumption from Caracas — about 96,000 barrels per day — and pays part of the bill with the vastly overpriced labor of 35,000 Cuban medical personnel, teachers and others working in Venezuela.

The rest of the bill is chalked up as a debt, mostly to Venezuela’s PDVSA oil monopoly, which now stands at more than $8 billion, said Jorge Piñon, a Cuba–born oil expert at the University of Texas in Austin.

“If Cuba had to pay $96 to $98 per barrel, that would mean a gigantic negative impact on its cash register,” said Piñon.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

man, i didn't know that at all!

goole, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

My marination in Cuban-American culture, ironically, has kept me from explaining the subtleties of the tempestuous relations between Cuba and the U.S. and South American and the U.S. I've got pretty mixed feeligns, as you might imagine, about the ease with which American media caricature older Cuban exile -- and the degree to which the Cuban exile gives the media all the help it can get.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

the NYT:

He grew obsessed with changing Venezuela’s laws and regulations to ensure that he could be re-elected indefinitely and become, indeed, a caudillo, able to rule by decree at times. He celebrated his past as a military officer and stacked his government with generals, colonels and majors, drawing inspiration from the leftist military officers who ruled Peru and Panama in the 1970s.

A bizarre governing apparatus subject to his whims coalesced around him. State television cameras recorded nearly every public appearance, many of them to make surprise, unscripted announcements, often in his military uniform and paratrooper’s red beret. He might rail against Venezuela’s high consumption of Scotch whisky — he did not drink alcohol, his aides said — or its high demand for breast augmentation surgery. He once stunned citizens by decreeing a new time zone for the nation, a half-hour behind its previous one. Fawning cabinet ministers sat through his televised lectures as he browbeat them over unfulfilled objectives.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

Hmm, Maduro is/was a follower of Sathya Sai Baba?

http://infocatolica.com/blog/infories.php/1212161141-nicolas-maduro-sucesor-de-hug

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

Jon Lee Anderson's recent New Yorker story on Caracas' soaring crime rate:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/01/28/130128fa_fact_anderson

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

^great piece

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

he was horrible, but on the other hand if youre gonna be horrible its p cool to be horrible like this

http://kinialohaguy.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/chavez-parrot2.jpg

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 23:26 (thirteen years ago)

wholesale ilx dismissive lols seem a bit odd towards someone who despite mentalism and massive flaws had policies that e.g. reduced poverty massively and extreme poverty even moreso.

hot young stalin (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 23:26 (thirteen years ago)

(something like 50% and 66% iirc.)

hot young stalin (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 23:26 (thirteen years ago)

theres a good piece in harpers from like five years ago on his weekly tv show thats so insane

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 23:27 (thirteen years ago)

xp Brilliant and horrifying article

Fellow lefties on my Twitter timeline seemingly unwilling to concede an inch about Chavez's considerable failings.

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 23:28 (thirteen years ago)

wholesale ilx dismissive lols seem a bit odd towards someone who despite mentalism and massive flaws had policies that e.g. reduced poverty massively and extreme poverty even moreso.

― hot young stalin (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, March 5, 2013 6:26 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(something like 50% and 66% iirc.)

― hot young stalin (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, March 5, 2013 6:26 PM (52 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

™ Chavez Research Inc

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 23:28 (thirteen years ago)

your county didn't need more money in the police force? Which county are you in?

Actually, I did build it you fucktard (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 02:16 (thirteen years ago)

Miami-Dade's doing fine with police funding. It's fire rescue that's often in trouble. Also: I would not recommend pissing off municipal cops or FHP unless you like the circadian rhythms of Taser electricity.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 02:19 (thirteen years ago)

bad boys bad boys

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 02:20 (thirteen years ago)

a police force that is not underfunded?!?! (dandydon faints)

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 02:24 (thirteen years ago)

I agree with your accusations of corruption (though AFAIK that police force was quite corrupt in the 80s) and happiness with taser. But you said that Jeb swelled the police forces with money, so I was curious if that was a fact.

Everything's underfunded everywhere. Anyone with a budget always needs more.

Actually, I did build it you fucktard (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 02:26 (thirteen years ago)

ha clean hit there morbs

jon lee anderson:

http://m.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/03/postscript-hugo-chavez-1954-2013.html

k3vin k., Wednesday, 6 March 2013 02:29 (thirteen years ago)

he called Dubya "Mister Danger" and "Donkey"

lolz

Actually, I did build it you fucktard (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 02:35 (thirteen years ago)

not as good as the "sulfur" bit tho

Actually, I did build it you fucktard (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 02:36 (thirteen years ago)

cant imagine gwb not secretly loving mister danger

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 02:36 (thirteen years ago)

it's no "turd blossom", but definitely seems his vibe

Actually, I did build it you fucktard (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 02:37 (thirteen years ago)

turd blossom was inspired work

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 02:38 (thirteen years ago)

can't imagine gwb not secretly having a pet name for chavez

Actually, I did build it you fucktard (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 02:41 (thirteen years ago)

can't imagine Hugo not having a pet named "Sulphur."

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 02:44 (thirteen years ago)

“Remember, little girl, I’m like the thorn tree that flowers on the plain. I waft my scent to passers-by and prick he who shakes me. Don’t mess with me, Condoleezza. Don’t mess with me, girl.” — Chávez, to then U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, in 2006.

buzza, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 07:20 (thirteen years ago)

r.i.p.

Gunoka Cuntles (Matt P), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 07:24 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/2013/03/death-by-slideshow-hugo-chavez-rip/

乒乓, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/files/2013/03/Chavez-Bol%C3%ADvar-NYT.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 13:28 (thirteen years ago)

dope pic, had no idea bolivar was such a dandy

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

Alfred heard it...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/06/world/americas/venezuelan-expatriates-see-a-reason-to-celebrate.html

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

one can be an autocrat and make the lives of the poor better, for awhile anyway.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

Absolutely. Though Lula proved you could have one without the other.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/jcoEjuV.png

buuuusted

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

lol @ nineties eyeware

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

90s lapels, all 90s everything

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/06/opinion/in-the-end-chavez-was-an-awful-manager.html

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2273961/chavez_large_medium.jpg

the night hugo chavez broke shea stadium

glove + pinstripes + cleats = awesome

mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

I asked him why, so late in the day, he had decided to adopt socialism. He acknowledged that he had come to it late, long after most of the world had abandoned it, but said that it had clicked for him after he had read Victor Hugo’s epic novel “Les Misérables.”

lol

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/03/postscript-hugo-chavez-1954-2013.html#ixzz2MmMGK8TL

dsb, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

we need to know if he got a chance to watch the movie tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

Sean Penn screened it for him.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

a buncha good links in this Slate article: http://www.theforce.net/kids/coruscant/probe_droid/palpatine.jpg

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

it's got some good building meter data too

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

This one's even better.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

Cuba and Venezuela: the ties that bind

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/112596/hugo-chavez-dead-cuba-defined-him-much-venezuela-did?utm_source=The+New+Republic&utm_campaign=2a7c3a41c6-TNR_Daily_030613&utm_medium=email#

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

I can't stop looking at that 3d bolivar

wk, Thursday, 7 March 2013 01:24 (thirteen years ago)

@DennisThePerrin
Too bad Obama didn't assassinate Chavez -- a nice two-for-one for the Rachel Maddows of this world.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 March 2013 02:20 (thirteen years ago)

‏@DennisThePerrin
A downside to aging is how my Bollywood dance moves have slowed

balls, Thursday, 7 March 2013 02:23 (thirteen years ago)

Chavez kissed poor "like a kitten"

buzza, Thursday, 7 March 2013 02:25 (thirteen years ago)

can we get hatcat to sub in for '@DennisThePerrin'

mookieproof, Thursday, 7 March 2013 05:08 (thirteen years ago)

First-rate Chris Hayes show discussing Chavez: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/46979738/ns/msnbc-up_with_chris_hayes/vp/51122755#51122768

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 10 March 2013 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

Perrin usta work for FAIR

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 10 March 2013 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

Heard a radio interview with an academic who said the nearest comparison for Chavez was Juan Peron. He made a good case. International capitalists hated Peron, too.

Aimless, Sunday, 10 March 2013 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

dennis peron

buzza, Sunday, 10 March 2013 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

haha

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2013 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

Morbs, do you really think Perrin is funny or insightful, ever?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

he's fine imo

k3vin k., Tuesday, 12 March 2013 02:22 (thirteen years ago)

Echoing Alfred's praise for that Chris Hayes discussion he linked. msnbc. Who fuckin knew.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 02:25 (thirteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

http://coreyrobin.com/2013/04/08/from-the-mixed-up-files-of-mr-jon-lee-anderson/

good piece on Jon Lee Anderson's baseless and unsupported anti-Chavez claims in the NYer

--808 542137 (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:03 (thirteen years ago)


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