I Had Completely Forgotten About Mark "The Bird" Fidrych!

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There is a picture of his Rolling Stone cover in a recent issue of R.S. I suffered a major flashback. I haven't thought about him since the 70's. he was huge! Like, rock star huge. Everyone loved him.How could I have completely blanked him from my memory? I was actually a Goose & Catfish fan due to my proximity to new york (western connecticut), but Mark had flash. Now if I could only remember the name of the other guy who talked to the ball. The mad hungarian dude. Who talked to the ball first? who's zooming who?

Anyway, this can be a thread for moments when you were reminded of something that was huge when you were a kid that you had forgotten all about OR you can just post pictures of flash-in-the-pan 70's sports stars. Like Bucky Dent.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 19 June 2004 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Wasn't he the first (only?) sports guy ever on the cover of Rolling Stone? I remember some interview with him a few years back hanging around with dad and the like.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 19 June 2004 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the Mad Hungarian was Al Hrbosky (sp?) ?

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 19 June 2004 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway, this can be a thread for moments when you were reminded of something that was huge when you were a kid that you had forgotten all about OR you can just post pictures of flash-in-the-pan 70's sports stars.

like this guy?

http://www.georgesstamps.com/sports/Autographed_Cards/Phillies_1982/Bake_McBride_1982.jpg

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 19 June 2004 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

*stunned* That is a beautiful name.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 19 June 2004 15:38 (twenty-two years ago)

oh yeah, the "mad hungarian" was al hrabosky (though that name sounds mysteriously more slavic than magyar [cf nagy, toth, gabor]). he played for the cardinals and the royals and was (if memory serves me correctly) one of the best relievers of his day. i think he also did the "talking to the ball" thing.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 19 June 2004 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, Al Hrabosky!! With the huge muttonchop facial hair and crazed look in his eye, and he had the exact same routine before every pitch.. stomp around on mound, pick up rosin bag, pause... and BANG throw the rosin bag down and storm up to the rubber like he's about to murtalize somebody. LOVE IT. I have a few of his baseball cards.

http://www.alhrabosky.com/

Apparently he's a broadcaster now??

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 19 June 2004 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

dude check out the evolution.. you can't tell me some funky shit wasn't goin down in America then..

http://www.alhrabosky.com/tempimg/images/alhrabosky/1971topf.jpg
http://www.alhrabosky.com/tempimg/images/alhrabosky/1981topf.jpg

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 19 June 2004 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Wasn't he the first (only?) sports guy ever on the cover of Rolling Stone?

i am positive that jim mcmahon made the cover of rolling stone in 1986, during the heyday of the chicago bears.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 19 June 2004 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.gibraltartrade.com/store/media/LeFloreR1.jpg

the ron leflore movie was not very good though.

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 19 June 2004 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

two words:

ROLLIE FINGERS

autovac (autovac), Saturday, 19 June 2004 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Hrabosky was one heaping serving of man-meat back in the day, yowza!

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 19 June 2004 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, look at this! LOOK A THIS!

http://www.alhrabosky.com/tempimg/images/alhrabosky/MVC-073F.JPG

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 19 June 2004 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.oscargamble.com/images/oscarcard.jpg

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 19 June 2004 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Mark "the bird" Fidrych is pretty much the first sportsman I can recall being cognizant of. I guess I would have been about 4 the year of his magical rookie season. I have vague recollections of my dad telling me to come and watch Tigers games with him on TV; him enthusiastically telling me to check out this "crazy" pitcher the Tigers had. It's a real shame Fidrych's career didn't pan out.

The "bad boy"-era Detroit Pistons were definitely on the cover of Rolling Stone. The year of their first championship, I think - 1989. I think I still have that issue back at my mom's house. I think the cover had like Bill Laimbeer and Dennis Rodman in black leather gloves or something like that.

Here is a great old SI cover (I mentioned this on Rockist's baseball book thread) - Dick Allen juggling and smoking a cigarette!!

http://i.cnn.net/si/si_online/covers/images/1972/0612_large.jpg

Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 19 June 2004 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

couldn't find a picture of the Bad Boys cover, but I guess the shot I was thinking of came from the article itself:

http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/01/ea/16/a2_1.JPG

Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 19 June 2004 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Fidrych can currently be seen on billboards advertising Motor City Casino in Detroit ('now I'm pitching for Motor City Casino').

Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Sunday, 20 June 2004 01:39 (twenty-two years ago)

the Motor City Casino is so trashy. You gotta love it. I'm an MGM guy myself.

Broheems (diamond), Sunday, 20 June 2004 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha, the middle guy in Tracer's first baseball card. They never subbed him, but he was replaced.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 21 June 2004 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)

But Motor City was where are the wannabe thugs and gangstas hang out!

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 21 June 2004 03:07 (twenty-two years ago)

You're s'posed to sit on your ass and nod at stupid things
Man, that's hard to do
But if you don't they'll screw you
And if you do they'll screw you too
When I'm standing in the middle of a diamond all alone
I always play to win when it comes to skin and bone

And sometimes I say things I shouldn't
Like . . . [harmonica solo and end of song]

-- Warren Zevon, "Bill Lee"

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 21 June 2004 07:23 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.bobpeak.com/artwork/time/0226.jpg

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Monday, 21 June 2004 11:17 (twenty-two years ago)

all this talk about mark 'the bird' fidrych...

what about EDDIE "THE EAGLE" EDWARDS?
http://www.celebritymate.co.uk/eddie.jpg
yeeeeeeeahhhhhhh

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 21 June 2004 11:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I think watching Mark Fidrych pitch for the Tigers is the earliest memory I have of watching television.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 21 June 2004 11:31 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

RIP :, (

Definitely one of the funnest things about being a teenager in suburban Detroit in the bicentenntial summer of '76.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/14/sports/baseball/14fidrych.html?hpw

A-well-a everybody's heard about the bird
B-b-b-bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, the bird is the word
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, well the bird is the word
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, well the bird is the word
A-well-a bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, well the bird is the word
A-well-a bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a don't you know about the bird?
Well, everybody knows that the bird is the word!
A-well-a bird, bird, b-bird's the word

xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 13:43 (seventeen years ago)

54, too damn young.

invitation to rabies (╓abies), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 13:59 (seventeen years ago)

r.i.p.

1976 was the first year i paid any attention to baseball, i was 6. i remember my dad talking about the bird, and he was sort of the perfect ballplayer for a 6-yr-old to latch onto. i was always disappointed he fell apart after that (i suppose not as disappointed as he was). if sports medicine had been better then, he might've rescued his career.

would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 14:07 (seventeen years ago)

three years pass...

This is fantastic--stick around for the whole thing. Anyone else watching that night?

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=4137207

clemenza, Thursday, 6 September 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, I sure was. And yeah, that took me back -- amazing.

xhuxk, Friday, 7 September 2012 00:27 (thirteen years ago)

The only baseball card I still have from my teenage collection.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 September 2012 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't notice this the first time, but when he shakes the umpire's hand at 1:10, it's the umpire who initiates that. You should have gotten out to the park that night, xhuxk.

clemenza, Friday, 7 September 2012 00:45 (thirteen years ago)

I've got a card too, Jon--bought it a few years ago, though.

clemenza, Friday, 7 September 2012 00:48 (thirteen years ago)

Unfortunately mine's the card from the year after his big year but w/e

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 September 2012 00:54 (thirteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

Had no idea this came out in March (or even that it existed):

http://reviews.libraryjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/wilson.jpg

clemenza, Saturday, 24 August 2013 05:14 (twelve years ago)

eight months pass...

Finally got around to reading the biography above. The writer captures the incredible hysteria of '76 well--I still feel lucky to have witnessed that. There are a few too many quotes throughout the book from people saying the same thing: that Fidrych was 100% genuine, the same person with everyone and at all points of his life. The years kicking around the minors are genuinely sad, even if Fidrych puts up a brave front.

One thing the book cleared up for me--or maybe it's more accurate to say created doubt about--is the cause of Fidrych's arm trouble. Somewhere along the way I forgot the exact circumstances and began to internalize the obvious conclusion, that the Tigers pitched him into the ground during his rookie year. He got his first start on May 15 (a CG two-hitter), and he proceeded to throw 24 complete games for the year and 250 innings. No pitch counts then, but he strung together a couple of runs that were inexplicable by today's standards: e.g., from August 7 to August 29 he threw consecutive starts of 9, 9, 9, 10, 9, and 11.1 innings. (Mostly low-hit and low-walk affairs, but in the 10-inning game he gave up 12 hits, two walks, and seven runs.) He was 21 years old. Couldn't be more simple.

But it all started with a knee injury when he was fooling around the next spring shagging flies. After some time on the DL, he comes back fine for a few starts, then his arm goes dead in a July 4th start against the Orioles. And that's it--he's never the same again. Maybe--maybe--there was some adjustment he tried to make coming back from the knee injury that led to the dead arm, rather than simply all those CG in '76. The book doesn't say for sure. Probably a combination: Fidrych's workload wasn't different from Seaver's or Blue's or Blyleven's at the same age, but you could say the same of Gary Nolan's or Frank Tanana's or Steve Busby's--works both ways. In any case, I'm less sure now that it was just the workload. And as tipsy points out, today the arm would have been diagnosed and attended to properly--a few years later they figured out it was the rotator cuff, at a point where it didn't matter anymore.

clemenza, Sunday, 11 May 2014 02:00 (twelve years ago)


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