chicago is the best city. it is.

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nyc is just too much of everything. what else is better? whatever you say, dont fuckin say portland. portland is shit. miami is a dump. la is also a dump with nothing interesting to take note of. pretty much everything else in cali is crowded burbs... anyway, chicago is the best, sucker.

― shuttin shit down, Sunday, 20 June 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

What about Pocatello?

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Sunday, 20 June 2004 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

what about Toulouse?

― charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 20 June 2004 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

wilkes-barre

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 20 June 2004 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Montreal

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 20 June 2004 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

arlington, texas

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 20 June 2004 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Two theme parks and a major-league baseball team all within two miles of a bunch of cheap strip-joints. Fun for the whole family.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 20 June 2004 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah but you guys are forgetting cedar falls

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 20 June 2004 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

ULAN BATOR, BITCHES.

― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 20 June 2004 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Saigon shakes, Bangkok shocks, but Hanoi rocks.

― earlnash, Monday, 21 June 2004 01:25 (twenty-two years ago)

watervliet, new york

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 21 June 2004 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Eau Claire, Wisconsin, bitches.

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 21 June 2004 02:30 (twenty-two years ago)

real answer: SSD is right, Chicago repels all boarders.

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 21 June 2004 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

vineland, new jersey

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 21 June 2004 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

um, hello, GUELPH

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 21 June 2004 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Heard about Houston?
Heard about Detroit?
Heard about Pittsburgh, PA?

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 21 June 2004 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

or Bird In Pand, PA for that matter. Or Christmas, Fla.

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Monday, 21 June 2004 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

i lovelovelove Chicago

― stevie (stevie), Monday, 21 June 2004 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

pretty much everything else in cali is crowded burbs

ever been to SF? burbs, no; crowded, yes, but no more than chicago only with a lot more flavor. chicago is great, in a midwestern kinda way.

― rxreed (rxreed), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Much as I'd like to rep for the hood, I couldn't really put Cedar Falls up against Ulan Bator. Or Chi.

― briania (briania), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

ulan baator sucks. even for 10 minutes.

― ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...

I started watching this last night:
http://www.shoppbs.org/product/index.jsp?productId=1406497&cp=1412580&clickid=lftnav_sbs_txt&parentPage=family

(PBS: The American Experience)

I only saw about an hour, but's it's a great documentary so far.

Did you know that the Indian word from which Chicago is derived means, "Smells like hell" ..?

― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, it's more like, "Stinking onion weed." but yeah, I think there's definitely some stink implied in the indian word.

I love the bit in that documentary -- really, it's more like an hour of it -- when they get into the anarchists and Haymarket and the Thanksgiving Day parade and such delicious anti-capitalist uprisings.

la is also a dump with nothing interesting to take note of.

haha Chicago is a dump with EVERYTHING interesting to take note of!

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

la is also a dump with nothing interesting to take note of. pretty much everything else in cali is crowded burbs

Dumbass.

― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

That doc is great. I want to see that statue dedicated to the anarchists. Where is it located?

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I want to visit Portland. My friend is there, and talks about it like its heaven with gypsies. Chicago is fun but a little too midwest. When I go to a city I try to escape a bit, I want different sorts of people than the ones I grew up with.

Detroit fucking owns, and I'm growing to like New York a lot.

― David Allen (David Allen), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Or rather, my friend grew up there.

― David Allen (David Allen), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, the one in the doc is at Forest Home/Waldhe cemetery near Oak park. Take the Green Line west until it ends, and you're there.

http://www.graveyards.com/foresthome/hmarket.html

The one on the actual site of Haymarket, the one with all the red AOL icon people, is on Des Plaines between Randolph and Kinzie, IIRC.

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I really enjoyed walking around downtown last weekend.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

yep, the one in the doc is it. Thanks K. I'm also going to go piss on Marshall Field's grave.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh. But he has such an awesomely pretty monument!

http://giganticmag.com/photos.php?image=04_016_224

Yeah, all those guys were bastards. Especially Pullman. Big utopina thinker until his profit slumped, and then he just fucked all his workers. Died as probably the most hated man in the country. You know he's buried in a three-foot-thick box of concrete and railroad ties, to prevent people from digging him up and desecrating the body.

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, k, you've really done your homework - I'm impressed.

Have you been to Forest Home? It's one of the most interesting cemeteries in the Chicago area. They call the section with the Haymarket monument & Emma Goldman's grave 'the communist plot', even though they're mostly anarchists.

The Fields are buried in Graceland, which is a must-see for tourists, especially if you have an interest in robber barons and / or architecture.

One more cemetery to check out is Mt. Carmel in Hillside, which is where most of the mobsters, including Capone and Giancana, are buried.

― Yr3k (dymaxia), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I have not been to Forest Home. Must plan a spring outing with the camera. I love Graceland, though, and Rosehill has some impressive statuary and an impressive size. Thet thing is just vast.

I hear Bohemian National Cemetery is also lovely.

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, k, you've really done your homework - I'm impressed.

Oh, it wasn't work at all. This stuff is fascinating. The whole history of capitalism is right here!

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been meaning to make it to graceland, it's not that far from my house. How about an ILX graveyard tour, followed by a fap on one of the nice spring days coming up?

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"coming up"

Yeah, I'll see you guys in mid-April!

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

well, i like to plan ahead.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Carter Harrison has a posse.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Forest Home is worth the trip, and not just for all the commies buried there. It seems to be a home for eccentrics of all sorts, and the older part of it is really atmospheric. I went on an overcast day and it was perfect. There's a brick road there, too - it's an ollld cemetery. I do have photos somewhere.

There also seem to be a lot of 'psychics' and 'spiritualists' buried there.

They also have an empty tomb, but I was too creeped out to go inside it.

If you guys really want to do a graveyard tour, I know my way around most of these places. It would be fun, but you'd definitely need to do it by car.

― Yr3k (dymaxia), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I've hung out in the infamous Bachelor's Grove, too, in the middle of the night. That was fun.

― Yr3k (dymaxia), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I really don't rate Toulouse.

Asheville NC is my favourite so far I think.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I've hung out in the infamous Bachelor's Grove, too, in the middle of the night. That was fun.

ooh. I don't consider myself superstitious, but I think that would freak me out.

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I was with a bunch of people, and we were pretty drunk. We did it on a dare.

Yeah, it was still pretty spooky, though. The hilarious thing is that while we were there, this group of leather clad headbanger types came walking in, carrying tire irons and chains and things. I screamed, but they laughed and said they brought that stuff with them for self-defense, and they turned out to be pretty cool.

― Yr3k (dymaxia), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.prairieghosts.com/dalebg.gif

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I want to go there.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i went to this supposedly haunted graveyard in minooka, IL called aux sable. it was pretty fun getting scared before going in. nothing amazing was seen though.

― t0dd swiss, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm ... my 9th-grade English teacher lived in Minooka.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"Teachers who still haunt you to this day"

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Bachelor's Grove at night ooooooeeeeeoooooo....

― Yr3k (dymaxia), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Carter Harrison has a posse.

Sadly, he's buried in Ohio with his daddy, AKA The Realest Nigga Alive.

http://www.thecemeteryproject.com/Graves%202/harrison-carter.htm

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

re: bachelor's grove at night --

Over the years there have been sightings of:

* A white lady, who appears mostly during full moons.
* A two headed man

Holy shit! Mists and clouds do nothing for me, but I think seeing a two-headed man would firmly convince me that something freaky was going on.

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Considering all of the stoners who have hung out there, it's not surprising.

― Yr3k (dymaxia), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

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