Australians: What is the nature of your country's relationship with the USA?

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And the nature of *their* relationship with *you*, so to speak...

This isn't btw specifically about Iraq or Bush or anything like that. It's a broader query, but I don't want to define the parameters of the question, so if you want to focus on that or anything else that's fine

― trappist monkey, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)

We're drenched in US culture, but then everyone is really.

― (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and our Prime Minister is brown-nosing Bush something fierce, despite 98% of Australia not actually wanting him to.

― (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Is the percentage really that high though? Cos it aint in Britain.

― trappist monkey, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a pretty sound consensus that Howard should back off a bit. Probably not 98% though; I'm sure the number of conservative rednecks is closer to 20%.

― (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, so you're in Britain?

― (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:35 (twenty-two years ago)

the nation is smothered in american "reality" tv shows. i hate them. but obviously a lot of our population likes them or i suppose they wouldn't air them on the telly.

― gem (trisk), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:36 (twenty-two years ago)

x-post Yes. Up late :- )

― trappist monkey, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah :)

Yeah, we get heaps of those too. Some good, some awful.

Btw, I don't have a problem with US television. What concerns me is the chance that we'll lose a lot of local content [hence jobs] to more US traffic. Recently our nutbag leader signed a free trade agreement with the US.

― (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)

By reality shows do you mean Joe Millionaire and Average Joe? Because those shows were sick yet entertaining as hell.

― Homosexual II, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Yep.

We were supposed to get The Joe Schmo Show this year, but it appears to have vanished without a trace. 'Reality' shows are dying a serious death here.

― (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah that's exactly what i mean. i didn't find them entertaining so much as reminiscent of fingernails scraping down a blackboard. but i am a grumpy bitch, most of my mates loved them.

― gem (trisk), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

are they mr almanac? yay finally. so please say australian reality shows are dying too??? e.g. big brother etc.

― gem (trisk), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Big Brother's charging along this year, but everything else is suffering horribly, to wit:

- Popstars Live
- The Block
- My Restaurant Rules [picked up at the end but]
- 239857923487934 dating shows

The networks kind of don't know what to do now. Here's a tip: MAKE PROPER SHOWS.

― (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:44 (twenty-two years ago)

my only must-see telly at the moment is (sadly) repeats of north square and black books. it is a very sad state of affairs.

― gem (trisk), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw my first Black Books last week and loved it.

― (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:52 (twenty-two years ago)

6 posts for this thread to deteriorate to a conversation about tv.
very telling¡

― dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

australians can't help but digress

― are 'friends' electricsound? (electricsound), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Yep. Australia's relationship with the USA is conducted via television. That pretty much sums it up.

― (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)

television and music and soft drink

― are 'friends' electricsound? (electricsound), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:00 (twenty-two years ago)

and clothes

― are 'friends' electricsound? (electricsound), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:00 (twenty-two years ago)

and slang

― are 'friends' electricsound? (electricsound), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:00 (twenty-two years ago)

and spelling

― (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Dear Australia:

Send more beer.

Love,

Jeremy

― Kingfish of Burma (Kingfish), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:02 (twenty-two years ago)

pretty much everything except vegemite and koala tacos

― are 'friends' electricsound? (electricsound), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:02 (twenty-two years ago)

yup.
also, apologies for diverting the conversation from tv - but i'm curious to see how free trade treats this fair land.

xpost - conversation already unrailed

― me i dysconnect from you¡ (dyson), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:03 (twenty-two years ago)

So am I. 'Confidence' isn't a word that springs to mind.

― (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:03 (twenty-two years ago)

My relationship with the US is chiefly a relationship with specific Americans. I like Americans, and always have. I am not a typical Australian except insofar as I like to digress. And drink.

Americans have the following relationship to me: they sleep on my couch when touring; swap CDs with me; or become friendsters with my gf.

Sorry, I'm on topic. And sober.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:04 (twenty-two years ago)

or re-railed. whatever.
also, "treats" can look an awful lot like "threats" to a dyslexic.

― dyslexic right here (dyson), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:04 (twenty-two years ago)

A god can look an awful lot like a dog to a dyslexic.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:08 (twenty-two years ago)

alexander downer is so cute

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Get a bowl of porridge and put three raisins in it: that's Alexander Downer.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Ahahahahaha. So true.

― (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:19 (twenty-two years ago)

still cute though.

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:20 (twenty-two years ago)

He looks like those baby masks from Brazil. I can't find a picture of one.

― (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I suppose he's cute in a boys-own, Billy Bunter sort of way.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Last I heard Australia and the US were "just friends". However, at a party in Febru, in Febua, in Februa, in March, I was sure that I saw the US finger-banging Australia in the makeout room.

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)

And we were loving it!!!

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Usually it's Australia getting the fingers up, and the US barely noticing.

― (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

We used to kiss Pommy arse but now it's wank a Yank time. The funniest sight in my city is middle class white teenagers dressing up like Gangstas.

I might be wrong but doesnt FUBU mean 'For Us By Us'.....when do we join the Union?

regards,

REB

― Rik E Boy (Rik E Boy), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)

isn't vegemite owned by an american company now?

― gem (trisk), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Yep. Philip Morris. Which is now called Altria, apparently.

― (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Altria has a much nicer ring to it than Avaricious Death Merchants, I must say.

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:11 (twenty-two years ago)

oops OTM

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:12 (twenty-two years ago)

up until a very few years ago i had never met a USamerican i liked.

― gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

ned was the first

― are 'friends' electricsound? (electricsound), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

i thought philip morris was a cigarette company. i've met some americans i like. i think it is significant that they are all americans who have chosen to emigrate from their nation of birth and move here.

― gem (trisk), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:17 (twenty-two years ago)

aaaaaah avaricious death merchants, that's a reference to a ciggie company. i'm a bit slow clearly.

― gem (trisk), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i thought philip morris was a cigarette company.

Yep, that's the one.

― (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I have not come across an Australian (or a NZer) who I did not think was a supremely cool human being. I love their humor and the fact that they seem so down-to-earth. In my mind, they are similar to blue-collar Westerners, what with their colorful language and gentle ribbing. I believe I even started a thread extolling their and their contry's virtues.
(this post is an elaborate attempt to ingratiate myself in case I ever can afford to actually travel to AU)

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:25 (twenty-two years ago)

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One day we'll find out that Chris and Marie are mental patients irl

http://www.hellohello.com.au/ads/images/mop53015.mov

― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 22:59 (fifteen years ago)

they used to say their email address...or maybe you're right Almanac, maybe it was the webby I was remembering.

― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:04 (fifteen years ago)

Eh we deserve whatever's coming to us frankly.

^^cosign this, absoloutely

bring back franco cozzo

― "shrimp" on the "barbie" (haitch), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:05 (fifteen years ago)

<3 you Franco Cozzo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZUVd9NMM_k

― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:06 (fifteen years ago)

My favorite 5 yo me joke:

Q What did Franco Cozzo say when he stepped in a bucket of gray paint?

A Foot is gray!

― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:07 (fifteen years ago)

It was kind of exciting when I ended up living in East Brunwick, walking distance from the Franco Cozzo Sydney Road showroom. #shelteredlife

― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:09 (fifteen years ago)

MEGALLO MEGALLO MEGALLO

That dude did his ads in three languages, which makes him exactly three times as educated as the bigots who complained about his presence at the time. Polyglot >>>>>>>>>> ignorant twat imo.

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee neuman

― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)

who is hervé neuman? why does he want to sell so much tat to ireland?

― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)

Are there any Australian commercials where someone fakes an American accent? Just curious to hear it done.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:13 (fifteen years ago)

Can't believe anyone would complain about Franco Cozzo. When I was little I thought he was awesome. And top marks for doing Italian/Greek language commercials back then, I mean, who else did that? Haters gonna hate

― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:17 (fifteen years ago)

Ja. There was a horrendous Better Blocks ad doing the rounds a few years ago.

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:17 (fifteen years ago)

(xp to Johnny Fever)

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:18 (fifteen years ago)

Grrrl: It was in amongst all that 'STOP THE ASIAN INVASION/WOGS GO HOME' bizzo (before Nick Giannopoulos tried to trademark the word 'wog').

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:20 (fifteen years ago)

who is hervé neuman? why does he want to sell so much tat to ireland?

oh he's selling to anyone who'll buy, believe us

― "shrimp" on the "barbie" (haitch), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)

we're kind of short of a few bob now, but his credit deals sound......

― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:24 (fifteen years ago)

^ just been sb'd by the german parliament

― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:24 (fifteen years ago)

Harvey Norman's great for top deals. You can go in and get a price on just about anything that's so competitive it can only be undercut by everyone else on the planet.

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:27 (fifteen years ago)

yeah didn't want to offend ur faux-continent or anything but their prices are rubbish.

― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:29 (fifteen years ago)

dude we are an island nation or something

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)

you've been around since 1987 and you don't even know what you are yourselves yet, how'm i mean to?

― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:37 (fifteen years ago)

It's the smorgasbord that we're famous for.

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:41 (fifteen years ago)

tribute dn

― what's up, my cobbers, we're having Smorgy's tonight! (electricsound), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:44 (fifteen years ago)

ah no irish catholics aren't allowed touch those things

― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:45 (fifteen years ago)

xxposts, Almanac -- I always lol'd at my parents going on about Asian invasion, there wasn't an Asian within 100 miles of our wee country town. And yeah, Dad and his friends would go on about the Italians ...I remember that pretty well. I guess I just meant, 'who could complain about Franco, his commericals are so happy and cool sounding.' But if all you think is 'arrglebargleberloodywogs' then there's no helping ppl.

― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:48 (fifteen years ago)

A Chris & Marie advert just fell out of one of the papers. Would you believe. I took a photo but don't know how to upload from here.

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:49 (fifteen years ago)

Grrrl: That was a hideous dark time obv, but what's awesome is that those 'invaders' had kids and added depth to our culture and Australia is approx. 5755327696854 times more enjoyable as a direct result.

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:52 (fifteen years ago)

I think my mother is horrified that I'm learning Chinese though.

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:53 (fifteen years ago)

It's like how these days the people who most hate on asylum seekers are people in western sydney who blame them for traffic congestion.

― Tim F, Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:07 (fifteen years ago)

I have an Uncle who I love to death except that he's a racist POS when you get him going. When I went to Uni, he would corner me and ask me how many Asians were in my lectures and could I get a word in edgeways and were they making me speak Mandarin in my classes and all this weird shit; or he'd go on at me about the Jews taking over Melbourne and oh my god it was the worst. Same guy who used to pick me up and whirl me around by my feet and give me airplane rides when I was a kid. Ah, blood relatives.

― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:11 (fifteen years ago)

Oh and the bloody shouting matches I had with Mum about flippin Pauline Hanson and her bit. "She's got a point" my fat ass she does. Or the other favorite, aaaaaaall the Aborigines getting $$ benefits and rorting the system and blah blah blah all that from a part of the country that HAS no Aboriginal community to speak of why bc they were shot. Ooof.

― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:14 (fifteen years ago)

I took a photo but don't know how to upload from here.

twitpic it and post a link?

people in western sydney who blame them for traffic congestion.

whaaa

― i'm assuming that it's tity boi, host of the mixtape (sic), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:21 (fifteen years ago)

lol

― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:35 (fifteen years ago)

Ahh twitpic yes, soon then.

The racist bogans actually think govts' lack of infrastructure planning & expenditure is in fact the fault of ~7,000 refugees in boats annually. I mean fucking seriously. These are cities of 4+ million, use yr branes you thick cunce.

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:36 (fifteen years ago)

Also if they are not Ab or TSI then they are also immigrants.

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:37 (fifteen years ago)

Meanwhile the actual indigenous people are battling a 20-yr life expectancy gap b/n themselves and the whining pricks in western Sydney. Aaagh I could go on.

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:39 (fifteen years ago)

I just caught your new username, Almanac. noice!

― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:39 (fifteen years ago)

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:40 (fifteen years ago)

Chris & Marie bonus lift-out:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/194435836.jpg

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:55 (fifteen years ago)

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/194435836.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1290042633&Signature=eZymOQPz4YSqyyr%2FZ1Lib9m4QkA%3D

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:56 (fifteen years ago)

Chris and Marie have A CAPS LOCK ADDICTION imo

― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 18 November 2010 01:06 (fifteen years ago)

hello hello

― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 18 November 2010 01:07 (fifteen years ago)

Oh shit do they still say " And watch out for the wombat!" at the end of their ads?

― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 18 November 2010 01:08 (fifteen years ago)

NEW NO BENDOVER

where are these western sydney types talking, then?

― i'm assuming that it's tity boi, host of the mixtape (sic), Thursday, 18 November 2010 01:08 (fifteen years ago)

Rooty Hill RSL.

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 18 November 2010 01:15 (fifteen years ago)

MADONNA, BABY...WHAT ARE YOU DOING??

― Pro Bono Impersonator (King Boy Pato), Thursday, 18 November 2010 01:31 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah there was also a special on 4 Corners or something like that during the election campaign that quizzed all these people in marginal labor seats in Western Sydney and they all said their number one issue was too many asylum seekers making everything too crowded and busy in their area.

?????

This was in seats with incredibly low intakes of even regular refugees let alone asylum seekers.

You're not in Noble Park you f***s.

― Tim F, Thursday, 18 November 2010 07:52 (fifteen years ago)

They just assume everyone with a darky face and funny headgear is a boat reffo. The idjits.

― Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Thursday, 18 November 2010 07:53 (fifteen years ago)

Also it's really bad how the Government just gives asylum seekers all these cars so they can spend all their time driving between Parramatta and Rooty Hill and clogging up the roads.

― Tim F, Thursday, 18 November 2010 07:57 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, driving from slum to slum and making crime because they don't have qualifications or highly-skilled well-paying jobs or anything.

― IN BEDDING WITH MADONNA!!! (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 18 November 2010 08:33 (fifteen years ago)

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