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Tried to go skating last night and no sooner had I stepped onto my board than some policeman came running up to me and practically wanted to send me to court there and then. Apparently it's now illegal to skate in my town, even when there's no shops open and no one's around because of the football. He even condoned going to the pub. Would they really rather everyone got pissed up instead? (Not that I don’t get drunk) Surely more vandalism and fights are caused by people getting drunk than people skateboarding. Fucking arseholes. Anyone else get that problem?

― mangAKid (mangA Kid), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 06:21 (twenty-two years ago)

And I thought the days of coppers sending you down the pub with a clip round the ear were long gone.

― robster (robster), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 06:34 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a bit off really. I don't believe for a second that skating is totally illegal in your town but you know how the rozzers get at the end of the month, picking your nose in public becomes a capital offence simply because they need leads. Police are just like salesmen that way.

As a non-skater though, I do find it a little annoying to walk round on a more crowded afternoon and nearly get whacked in the teeth because some kid boganed his ollie-up and sent his board flying into my face. That's just me though.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 08:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Skateboarders are getting older, don't you find?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 08:33 (twenty-two years ago)

"don't you tell me not to skate, sonny! i know your father and he'll be very cross when he hears about this!"

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 08:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Skateboarders are getting older, don't you find?

sadly, no. i have an instant crush on any boy on a skateboard, which leads to embarrassing 'i'm old enough to be his MOM!' thoughts more and more these days. perhaps i should get hit in the face with a board or something to cure me...

― colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 08:47 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.worldindustries.com/img/archive_image36.jpg

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 10:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to have one of those shirts. Except it said "~~Think Fast,~~ Skate Faster and Don't Look ~~Back~~."

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I had one that said "SKATEBOARDING IS A CRIME AND CRYING ABOUT IT WON'T HELP."

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

ah collette you sound like me. except i know that those little boys are really worthless and spend my affections on more appropriate men.

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

samantha. you are so wrong.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

well, there's one or two good ones around, still. not quite ready to be 'cured', i think. gimme another year or two.

― colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

cutty I said "little boys". I've given up on younger men as I've always regretted them later. Are you a young'n mcutt?

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I just passed some skateboarders on my way to return all the secondhand clothes I'm bored with the the secondhand clothes shop. Some observations:

1. (Inevitably about authenticity): I noticed a couple of years ago a trend in style mag interviews for artists to base claims to authenticity on their having been skaters. I suppose it sounds better than 'I have a degree in film from the New York School of Film and Television', but it made me wonder why skating makes you better at creating? Or is that not what they were saying? Were they saying something like 'I have street cred because I have collided many times with the pavement'?

2. Skating is all about 'failing better'. You jump over the little ramp, flip your board up into the air, spin it, and hope it lands wheels down and you land on it and continue. 9 times out of 10 this chain of events does not go to plan. You fail, and an overwhelming compulsion to fail again, fail better, overcomes you. Dropping bits of buttered toast towards the ground to see whether they'll land butterside up is not nearly as satisfying.

3. Skaters always have the best hair. If I were a 15 year old girl I would almost certainly be a skate groupie.

(By the way, I did skateboard when I was a teen, but neither I nor skating was cool at that point.)

― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I wish I could get old SMA stuff. gygax!, can you help a brother out?

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

samantha: most skaters are very good at retaining a youthful appearance. i'm 25.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Where is the Lucero Schmitt Stix in that picture? Good times, good times. ... I had that World Industries deck with the New Kids on the bottom, which snapped right across Jordan's face.

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

xpost - yeah and he looks like he's a robust 14 (sorry cutty dude).

ps Momus I think there's been, since at least the 80s but arguably even longer, a very strong connection between visual arts and skateboarding. I think the pictures of those boards attests to that, although board graphics are just one part of the puzzle. I'd guess that a decent number of 80s and 90s-grown artists - photographers, painters and drawers, graf artists, filmmakers, graphic designers, clothing designers - owe most of their seminal art experiences to skateboarding in some way.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah and he looks like he's a robust 14 (sorry cutty dude).

fuck you!

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Skating = Hip Hop culture for white middle class kids. That's why it's cool.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Cor, I used to have the right most deck in that picture. 95% it was a Santa Cruz, not an SMA, mind.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

dog latin: skateboarding has always been 10 years ahead of hip hop culture. look at the long white shirts (thug dresses) all them urbane kids be wearing. skaters were dressing like that in 1992. respect.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

dude, cutty, joking, dude.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah and he looks like he's a robust 14 (sorry cutty dude).
fuck you!

cutty, this is a compliment! i've had a crush on a guy that's 30 and looks about 15 for AGES. swoon. i even like his silly skateboard tatoos...

― colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

ddb to thread!

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I hereby submit proof that skaters also influenced the Vikings:

― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

like i said, it's very common for skaters to look about 17 until they are 35.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

xpost

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

the guy on the far left in the hoodie looks like Ian Johnson.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Isn't saying 'the guy in the hoodie' about skaters a bit like saying 'the guy with the head'?

― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, everyone in that pic has a hoodie on. That's why I wrote "far left," too.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

ian johnson loves hoodies

― Jon Williams!!!!! (ROFFLE!@!@!@) (ex machina), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

SKATERS WERE THE FIRST PEOPLE TO WEAR HOODIES. EVER.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

what about hoods? Did they wear hoodies?

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:00 (twenty-two years ago)

xpost to Momus
1. skateboarding is ALL ABOUT creating. LIKE DUH. Artists/tastemakers/magazine fodder saying that they were skateboarders, are simply saying, I've been creative since the age six. I ride this wooden board, make it and my body do fancy things, I wear strange clothes, I make stencils, cut grip tape into tiny shapes, paint things, destroy public property. Skateboarders generally have a different outlook on things, what looks like an ordinary park bench to you, may be the BEST skatespot in town.

Spike Jonze is what he is because of his background in the skateboarding community.

2. skating is FAR from Failing Better. It is more like SUCCEEDING BETTER. Yes you jump off a ramp and flip a board...and 9 x out of 10 x you may miss....but YOU KEEP TRYING. And when you do LAND it, it makes it all worth it. Which may sound hooky, but it's the truth. I mean think about the dynamics of FLIPPING a WOODEN BOARD with your FEET in the AIR and landing on it's PROPER SIDE and RIDING AWAY. It's amazing. FAILURE has nothing to do with it, it's Precision. To an outsider (read: square) it may seem like failure.

3. yes, this is true, we ALL have amazing hair.

x-post to mangakid.
yeah cops are a drag...but you move on, you go to another spot and another spot and another spot.

― ddb (ddb), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

THE KKK WERE SKATERS. AND THE DRUIDS.

― St. Nicholas Ridiculous (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

the KKK took my skate spot away.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Surely the 'failing / succeeding' better is glass-half-empty / half-full territory?

I do apologise if I seemed 'square' by putting it that way. I did notice that as I walked past those skaters this afternoon, they did a distinct double-take. Normally studiedly indifferent to passersby, they did a definite 'Blimey' as I passed. 'Blimey' was almost visible in the air above them, for precisely one second. Perhaps it was 'Blimey, what a square!' Then again, perhaps it was 'There is the next international look for our movement! Forget the Vikings, the KKK, the Druids and black kids!'

― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

people say "Blimey" in Berlin?

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Surely the 'failing / succeeding' better is glass-half-empty / half-full territory?

why call a glass anything when you don't drink?

― ddb (ddb), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

by stepping on a skateboard, you are succeeding.

― ddb (ddb), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)

They were probably just checking out your package.

― St. Nicholas Ridiculous (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)

destroy public property

You selfish cunt.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

people say "Blimey" in Berlin?

I was translating for brevity's sake. In fact they said:

Gottimhimmeldonnerandblitzensturmunddranginselapfenachtungschtuppfickgesundheit!

― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

You left off an umlaut there

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

momus says samuel beckett was a skateboarder

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Being a headline writer in Germany must suck.

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

ah cool, Momus - I was wondering if there was some Glaswegian/Berliner cross-cultural exchange going on that might be exciting and new and whatnot. Speaking of which, do you know Fitz? (not Scottish but close enough)

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

during euro 2004 they had to write things like "Attention!" in the middle of pictures of ballack and kahn with soldier helmets photoshopped onto them.

xpost

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.fitzandfloyd.com/immagini/ffP3.jpg

Fitz and Floyd, giftware, dinnerware and accessories? (Pictured: Charming Tails Collection)

― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

nope, not him.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, nice response to my rant. I'm actually a twenty three year old skater, and yes I was wearing a hoody when the policeman who was clearly younger than me decided to teach me the errors of my ways. Obviously he never managed to learn to ollie, and has been taking it out on those with perseverance ever since. Maybe that's why he joined the force, who knows.

― adam king (mangA Kid), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Sounds like the Brits are a little behind the curve on the whole sk8ing thing. In San Diego, the city built a skate park a couple years ago. Kinda looks like a bunch of swimming pools without the water. For anyone who's ever driven on I-8, it's at the western terminus, next to the Pacific Ocean.

The thing is packed every single day and it looks like the kids are having a helluva lotta fun. If I were 14, I'd be so there.

― chëshy, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Over 25 years ago in north San Diego, The Del Mar Skate Ranch was built for the public. For insurance reasons, it was transferred over to the Boy Scouts of America (with Mandatory membership to gather entry). At the time, it was one of the most advanced and sophisticated skate parks ever seen. Folks like Tony Hawk cut their teeth there.

http://www.skateboarding.com/skate/magazine/article/0,12768,428980,00.html
http://lilytears.com/skateboarding/delmar.htm
http://www.concretedisciples.com/cd_skate/socal/delmar/del_mar_skateranch.php
some nice steve steadham pics:
http://www.concretedisciples.com/bbs/index.php?action=vthread&topic=2013&forum=9&page=-1

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

samantha: most skaters are very good at retaining a youthful appearance. i'm 25.

Still too young for me.

nothing wrong with looking though. . .

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

OH YEAH WELL YOU'RE TOO OLD FOR ME

(kidding)

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

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