Movies; Collateral Damage & Sexism

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So I just watched the second half of The Fugitive and it annoyed me. At the end HF & TLJ are (almost) buddies in the back of the police car & HF can have a smirk because he has been vindicated. The fact that his wife is still dead doesn’t seem to enter into the ‘moment’ – because that would spoil it! Am I just pissed off with Hollywood not caring about the collateral damage in their movies or am I pissed of with the sexism of it?

lepanto seconded (lesbo leones), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)

OJ will find the real killers, just like The Fugitive. Watch the TV show, David Janssen is more likeable than Harrison Ford anyway.

andy, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

This is why, after many many years, I finally had my fill of superhero comics and can hardly stand to look at one now. (At least it's one of the reasons.)

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh come on, when you've just proven your innocence/found your wife's killer after spending weeks forging identities and running everywhere while helping the unfortunate and end up sitting in the back of a car with the guy who previously announced his disinterest and inspired you to do a swan dive off a giant waterfall I think you get to smirk.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:40 (twenty-two years ago)

You also have to remember that the time from the wife's death and the smirk was probably pretty long figuring that the trial of a doctor came in between.

This isn't to say that movies aren't bullshit, just that there have to be better examples then this. Like the climax of Speed 2 where the cruiser massacres a beachfront village to save six people on the goddamn boat.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:42 (twenty-two years ago)

there's even a shot of a random guy driving his truck and smashing headfirst into the boat as it crashes through the massive pier. It's a fucking national headline atrocity and they're like WE'RE ALIVE!

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)

It's just too bad that's Harrison's only other emotion besides looking generally under the gun about something. What happened to Han Solo? The affable charm?

Dude on a compeltely unrelated tangent, I saw "Fear X" and it was TERRIBLE. Half a movie. I heard it compared to (The?) Conversation which is just ludicrous. Oh that's the connection. Harrison Ford was in that, too. The Conversation, I mean. He wasn't very affable in that. But he played a stooge, a company man. He'd never take that kind of role now. He started out by playing bad boys, and he's just gotten gooder and gooder.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)

He's always only had three kinds of roles. Smirk (Indiana Jones, Han Solo, Working Girl), no smirk (Air Force One, Witness, Fugitive) and Painfully Miscast (Regarding Henry, K-19).

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

This reminds me of that movie 3000 Miles to graceland where a bunch of badass Elvis impersonators massacre a bunch of security guards and cops in highly stylized, kick-ass fashion with no afterthought, and Howie Long as one of their buddies is given a protracted, what-seems-like five minute long death scene/speech.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Howie Long as one of their buddies is given a protracted, what-seems-like five minute long death scene/speech.

Gear, thank you for making sure that I never, ever, ever, ever see this movie.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 23:59 (twenty-two years ago)

word

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

That movie sounds amazing, I want a copy. Who is Howie Long btw?

Menelaus Darcy (Menelaus Darcy), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 03:57 (twenty-one years ago)

ex-lineman for the Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders, current pitchman for Radio Shack, top-billed action star supported by the "wtf happened to us" character actors William Forsythe and Scott Glenn in the firefighting action thriller Firestorm.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/pg2/2001/1121/photo/i_firestorm_i.jpg

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

He looks rather surprised to be in that poster.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

my friend calls the jack ryan/air force one movies "frowny fascist ford" flicks

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 04:32 (twenty-one years ago)

http://photos.friendster.com/photos/90/38/6718309/4519127784442l.jpg

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

http://photos.friendster.com/photos/90/38/6718309/4519127784442l.jpg

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

If something's not relevant to the main plot and theme of a big Hollywood action movie, it's not going to be depicted. Looking to such movies to provide realistic and sensitive treatment of such matters seems silly.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)


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