come anticipate spiderman 2 with this cool guy

jon stewart busted this one out on the daily show before the first movie! quote went something like "it's hollywood- you're SPIH-der-min now," and it cracks me up every time i see the billboards for this one!

Well, just call me 'Bert', because I have a feeling I'll really like this!

Best part - the Evil Dead homages (is it homage when the films are by the same director?) of Doc Ock waking up. Other good parts: um, Kirsten Dunst was OK. Most disappointing: way too much of Vern Schillinger's character.

Don't tell me this.

You already saw it, Nicole? Oh wait, midnight showing last night?

*Gets up, runs to nearest theatre*

man what's the deal with catwoman? i mean, there's no chance in hell i'll see it, but: why was it made?

I was halfway kidding about Dunst. It was great to see her two stories tall and everything, but she wasn't very good. Did ANYONE buy her as a celebrated thespian who zonks out halfway through her performance looking into the audience? Wouldn't that shit get you fired?

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Do it tonight!

the cake bothered me. she promises chocolate and brings yellow. whut up?

the metal arms not being sucked into the sun thing bugged me, as did all the women in the beginning's necklaces being yanked off, but somehow, it left their earrings. also didn't get mj's ring, though it nearly sucked her in with the chains.

I don't care, however, because I now have a big fat crush on James Franco and I want to bear his brilliantly cheekboned children.

I can't wait to see Maguire and Dunst play real people again. Who don't go around articulating their "arcs" every other scene.

Rosemary Harris is so good she actually acted in a couple scenes of this tripe.

Superman 2 >>>>>>>>>>>> Spider-man 2

mostly cuz HACKMAN & STAMP KICK ASS.

That scene with Hal Sparks in the elevator,where Hal is understandably a bit excited to be in this summer blockbuster that everyone's gonna see and he's got a little jump in his step. That kind of scene won't happen going forward because actors, especially "I'm usually not asked to do big movies like this!" actors like Sparks was at the time, can't get excited about blockbusters in a post-monoculture America, because they know it's all relative now. You used to see actors like that look really happy to have a small, cute scene in something like this -- they looked like actors in their first commercial, but that's much less likely now.

lol we really need to use this thread for the 2nd andrew garfield spidey movie

thought that's what this was for! lol

first post more evidence that Roger E was oft clueless

if Sony doesn't release a new Spidey movie every two years or something -- something quite restricting -- the Spider-Man films belong to Marvel/Disney under their new partnership. That's why these new ones are put together like a cramming fourth grader trying to get his homework done at 6AM before the bus.

cunga's post is just bizarre btw, what the hell kind of special new kind of hollywood disillusionment could have set in JUST since 2004 that small-time actors would no longer get excited about scoring a role in a big tentpole summer movie?

the breakdown of monoculture -- the idea that there are summer blockbusters that everyone talks about, even if they don't watch those kinds of movies. That's eroding even though these movies make a ton of money. Being on a national TV commercial means less if none of your friends watch TV, as I've heard a bunch of actor-friends confess. Hal Sparks already had a TV show but he still had a "Oh wow I'm in Spider-Man 2" look on his face -- that probably doesn't happen now

try harder

The movie also has Jim Norton, future talk-soup host Joel McHale. It's Late Night w Conan stand-ups circa 1998.

I think he means there's one of these motherfuckers every 2 weeks now

i really have no idea how some recent equivalent like The Avengers is 'less talked about' than Spiderman 2 was nine years ago. when people talk about the death of the monoculture (which i think has been greatly exaggerated but anyway), they don't mean it just happened, they mean it happened a good while ago.

happened awhile ago but there's been some drop-offs in the last eight years, and its death continues. and 2004 has been discussed on ILX elsewhere as being a year when traditional breakthroughs were still possible e.g. Kanye, Arcade Fire.

"Avengers" is a movie that's gigantic, and proves my point wrong in some ways, but then how many Avengers actors besides Downey and Johansson can most people name? Recognition is more relative now.

Mark Ruffalo was the Hulk, I forgot

and 2004 has been discussed on ILX elsewhere as being a year when traditional breakthroughs were still possible e.g. Kanye, Arcade Fire.

sounds like 2004 has a lot to pay for

but then how many Avengers actors besides Downey and Johansson can most people name

lol wat

obscure little known actor

http://cdn.breitbart.com/mediaserver/2012/12/jackson/Samuel-L-Jackson-featured.jpg

time was when giants of the cinema like Alfred Molina and Kirsten Dunst could open any movie, with or without a big name franchise attached

Somehow I think the dumbasses of tomorrow will find a way to be as excited about their career potential as Hal Sparks was in Spider-Man 2

i think a less dubious statement than "comedians can't get it up for bit roles after the death of the monoculture in the mid-00's" to derive from Hal Sparks in Spider-Man 2 is "wow, Sam Raimi was relatively down for a goofy, meaningless interlude than most blockbuster directors". Unless you can point to some relatively joyless bit parts from stand-ups of late.

comedians can't get it up for bit roles

having a good fluffer v underrated

esp after the death of the monoculture

really amazing how Joss Whedon managed to create a lucrative blockbuster with relative unknowns like Jeremy Renner, Gwyneth Paltrow, and Chris Evans.

when we see Amy Schumer rotely do a double-take in Thor 2 WE'LL be the ones who look stupid

You people are complete mentalists; the Catwoman movie is going to be ridiculously amazing.
― VengaDan Perry's Libido (Dan Perry), Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:09 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

FWIW I think Cunga is sort of on to something but da croupier gets us closer to the mark - this is about directors with distinctive styles being allowed to do these huge blockbusters and still slip in personal touches, moments that don't hit the requisite story beats, a favored kind of shot they just like to do in every movie, whatever. Raimi on Spider-Man and Peter Jackson on LOTR, versus Raimi on Oz The Great and Powerful, or whatever (haven't seen the Hobbit film, wonder how that compares). The recent Marvel movies have been to varying degrees streamlined entertainment juggernauts but somewhat bereft of particular personal touches - they live or die on the actors and the number of good jokes packed into the script, but the directors are interchangeable nonentities.

I don't know if this is a permanent new normal or just a kind of momentary oversaturation of CGI-smashes-CGI films (where I agree with Morbs) that means that even movies I haven't seen I sort of figure are just full of blonde guys running around and dodging a bad-looking CGI troll monster that's swinging a club at them. Wrath of the Titans was the last realllly faceless one of these that I let myself go see and it's sort of colored everything that's come out since to the point that I haven't even bothered with Pacific Rim even though I'm pretty sure I'd like it. I guess something like the buddy-cop stuff in Iron Man 3 does speak to some kind of signature theme stuff coming through...

But yeah Hal Sparks I dunno about, I think I was just like "hey it's that guy from all those VH1 shows, cute scene, good gag." The cake girl is way more WTF (and great) and the first thing that would be cut today, to be replaced by a scene where Doc Ock releases his CGI Octo-Bots to destroy Midtown.

managed to create a lucrative blockbuster with relative unknowns like Jeremy Renner

the average moviegoer sure as fuck can't name him, doubt Chris Evans either

how many Avengers actors besides Downey and Johansson can most people name?

The Avengers Blu-Ray (and DVD?) cover doesn't even have Johansson on it, which is some bullshit.

As far as Spiderman 2, didn't see the first reboot, won't see this one. The photos of Electro look really lousy.

The reboot is discussed here: Spider-Man 4 (reboot thread) -- aka The Amazing Spider-Man , and is as lousy and faceless as they come.

I guess something like the buddy-cop stuff in Iron Man 3 does speak to some kind of signature theme stuff coming through...

That essence which is Shane Black.

the average moviegoer sure as fuck can't name him, doubt Chris Evans either

Is Evans the one played by Captain America?

The idea that people are nostalgic for the innocence, personality and whimsy of Iraq War-era cinema...goddamn, that's awesome

There was that feeling, around the Bush/Kerry election, where you could reach out to everyone at once....

whut up?

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 22:39

It's like noticing the random, dated references to Tom Green and Chris Kirkpatrick on "The Real Slim Shady" and deciding that America was more into cultural subversion back then, rather than that Eminem got away with some random-ass shit.

tom green is still a strange person.

the fire of 2004 has not died in him

rip torn also everstrange

most dated line in "the real slim shady"

whut up?

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 22:39

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