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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Typically a break from partisan warfare, this year's Senate class photo turned smiles into snarls as Vice President Dick Cheney reportedly used a profanity toward one senior Democrat, sources said.

Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, who was on the receiving end of Cheney's ire, confirmed that the Vice President used profanity during Tuesday's class photo.

A spokesman for Cheney confirmed there was a "frank exchange of ideas."

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

major league.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Well? Which one?

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm hoping Cheney told him to "eat a bag of dicks".

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

that would be a frank exchange of franks.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Big time.

Nemo (JND), Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

he probably just said "eat me", which would be the same thing.
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oops (Oops), Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread is a big cocktease.

via wonkette:

CNN is reporting that on the floor of the Senate yesterday, Dick Cheney told Sen. Pat Leahy, "Go fuck yourself." We agree! Go fuck yourself -- while it's still legal!

UPDATE: Speaking of sodomy. . . Wonkette operatives tell us that the fighting words sprang from an exchange in which Cheney told Leahy he didn't like what Leahy had been saying about Halliburton, to which Leahy replied that he didn't like Cheney calling him a bad Catholic. So you'd see how "Go fuck yourself" is the only appropriate response.

Now I hope this exchange was in fact, true. Or Ill have to call my lawyer(s).

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope if God is a Catholic, He smites everyone in the current Bush Administration.

If God's not a Catholic, nevermind, She can do what She wants.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Wonkette's operatives = watching CNN.

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

what an insider.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

but dude, he/she/it knows how to infiltrate SUPER AWESOME D.C. INSIDER PARTIES. stop hating.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

so does the NY Times "Sunday Styles" section - big whoop.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Cheney losing his cool is another reason to me that the Dems need to get John Edwards to run as VP. That guy is young, slick and can talk a good game, he might be the one that could get in a debate and cause old Dicky to blow a gasket. Being a trial lawyer, you have to think that Edwards is good at getting into a opponent in a debate.

earlnash, Friday, 25 June 2004 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Frank Exchange would be a really good musician's pseudonym...

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Friday, 25 June 2004 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

could be one of those new "punk conservatives" we've been hearing about.

g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 25 June 2004 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

if only sen leahy's response was, "eat my fuc"

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 25 June 2004 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Washington Post prints the f-bomb:

Cheney Dismisses Critic With Obscenity
Clash With Leahy About Halliburton

By Helen Dewar and Dana Milbank
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, June 25, 2004; Page A04


A brief argument between Vice President Cheney and a senior Democratic senator led Cheney to utter a big-time obscenity on the Senate floor this week.

On Tuesday, Cheney, serving in his role as president of the Senate, appeared in the chamber for a photo session. A chance meeting with Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (Vt.), the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, became an argument about Cheney's ties to Halliburton Co., an international energy services corporation, and President Bush's judicial nominees. The exchange ended when Cheney offered some crass advice.

"Fuck yourself," said the man who is a heartbeat from the presidency.

Leahy's spokesman, David Carle, yesterday confirmed the brief but fierce exchange. "The vice president seemed to be taking personally the criticism that Senator Leahy and others have leveled against Halliburton's sole-source contracts in Iraq," Carle said.

As it happens, the exchange occurred on the same day the Senate passed legislation described as the "Defense of Decency Act" by 99 to 1.

Cheney's office did not deny that the phrase was uttered. His spokesman, Kevin S. Kellems, would say only that this language is not typical of the vice presidential vocabulary. "Reserving the right to revise and extend my remarks, that doesn't sound like language the vice president would use," Kellems said, "but there was a frank exchange of views."

Gleeful Democrats pointed out that the White House has not always been so forgiving of obscenity. In December, Democratic presidential candidate John F. Kerry was quoted using the same word in describing Bush's Iraq policy as botched. The president's chief of staff reacted with indignation.

"That's beneath John Kerry," Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card Jr. said. "I'm very disappointed that he would use that kind of language. I'm hoping that he's apologizing at least to himself, because that's not the John Kerry that I know."

This was not the first foray into French by Cheney and his boss. During the 2000 campaign, Bush pointed out a New York Times reporter to Cheney and said, without knowing the microphone was picking it up, "major-league [expletive]." Cheney's response -- "Big Time" -- has become his official presidential nickname.

Then there was that famous Talk magazine interview of Bush by Tucker Carlson in 1999, in which the future president repeatedly used the F-word.

Tuesday's exchange began when Leahy crossed the aisle at the photo session and joked to Cheney about being on the Republican side, according to Carle. Then Cheney, according to Carle, "lashed into" Leahy for remarks he made Monday criticizing Iraq contracts won without competitive bidding by Halliburton, Cheney's former employer.

Leahy, Carle said, retorted that Democrats "have not appreciated White House collusion in smears" that Democrats were anti-Catholic for blocking judicial nominees such as William H. Pryor Jr. Democrats demanded that Bush disavow the allegations by conservative groups, but the White House did not.

The Democratic National Committee has declared this to be "Halliburton Week" to portray administration ties to the controversial company. "Sounds like it's making somebody a little testy," Kerry spokesman Chad Clanton said.

Republicans did their best to defend the vice president. Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah), while pointing out that he was unaware of the incident, described Cheney as "very honest" and said: "I don't blame anyone for standing up for his integrity."

There is no rule against obscene language by a vice president on the Senate floor. The senators were present for a group picture and not in session, so Rule 19 of the Senate rules -- which prohibits vulgar statements "unbecoming a senator" -- does not apply, according to a Senate official. Even if the Senate were in session, the vice president, though constitutionally the president of the Senate, is an executive branch official and therefore free to use whatever language he likes.

© 2004 The Washington Post Company

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Friday, 25 June 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Clymer should've sued for slander.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 25 June 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I like how they print "fuck" and then say "major-league [expletive]."

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Friday, 25 June 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

They just played pieces of Cheney's conference, he is a smug little bitch, as far as I can tell. The gist was:

Q: Did you have an altercation with Leahy?
A: Yeah, made my feelings known. Others in the Senate told me it shoulda been said long before this. I don't regret it at all.
Q: Did you use profanity?
A: Maybe. I might have. Not sure.

Wait a minute, Dick. If you're proud of your comment, and you want to claim your statement, don't be a little punkass with cutesy little "maybe"s. The answer to the second question is "yes." You needn't repeat it, but must you lie or confuse with EVERY SINGLE FUCKING COMMENT? Do you want to play badass or not?

Gary "I'm sooooo tough ex-FBI guy" Aldrich said on the radio yesterday that Dick shoulda just punched Leahy in the face, and that the Senate truly needs to return to days when such conduct was used to enforce civility and keep people in line. I'm not sure Big Time should play that way, with his patched together ticker.

Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 25 June 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

So hey, remember the anthrax letters? Leahy got one. So did Daschle. No Republicans.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 26 June 2004 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

even when it comes to cussing, cheney's a chickenshit. LBJ, nixon, and ANY of the kennedys (esp. papa joe) would cuss his sorry ass under the table in an all-out fuck-fest.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 26 June 2004 03:25 (twenty-one years ago)

vp cheney to Eisbär: go fuck yerself, Eisbär
Eisbär to cheney: eat a big greasy plate of fuck and drop dead of a heart attack, motherfucker.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 26 June 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

let's go eat some cheeseburgers, dick. oops ...

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 26 June 2004 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

or, try deez nuts dick

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 26 June 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

more of our august senators should be seen grasping their crotches on CSPAN while yelling "HEY SPORTS FANS! IN YOUR PANTS!"

Kingfish of Burma (Kingfish), Saturday, 26 June 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

cheney's creppy little mouth always seems like it's on the verge of mumbling some profanity. "hghdggd mmmm god damned liberals mmmdsht iiijdmm,m fucking shit iaidkkjklkj mmmm"

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 26 June 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)


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