Trouble flares after England exit

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Trouble flares after England exit

Police in riot gear used CS gas to disperse crowds in Jersey while trouble flared up in parts of the UK after England's Euro 2004 defeat to Portugal.
Around 1,500 England fans brought Minden Place in St Helier to a standstill after Portugal's victory.

Traffic was diverted and police held back the crowd as bottles were thrown and Portuguese supporters were taunted.

Meanwhile in Thetford, Norfolk, scared Portuguese fans cowered as the pub they were in was pelted with missiles.


Seven people were arrested in Boston, Lincs, after crowds of disappointed England fans congregated in Market Place after the penalty shoot-out and a small fire was started outside a kebab shop.

It is believed trouble began in Jersey when people were trying to reach the Portuguese Club in St James Street - the scenes were the most serious among sporadic outbreaks.

The situation was brought under control by 0100 BST.

Jersey's population is around 10% Portuguese, of Madeiran origin.


Pub stand-off

Vingtenier Mitch Couriard from St Helier's Honorary Police said: "It was shocking. There's been nothing like this in Jersey in living memory.

"It was completely uncalled for."

Manuel Da Silva, President of the Portuguese Club, speaking from Lisbon, said: "I spoke to the steward at the club after the game and there was a really good atmosphere, but from there on I don't know what happened, so I am really sad to hear this."

In Thetford, scores of Portuguese fans - including children - were escorted to safety by police after being besieged inside a pub by England supporters for more than two hours.


The English fans since they have been here have known both defeat and victory and in each case they have behaved in a very civilised way

Portuguese police spokesman


Pictures from Lisbon
England's pub fans deflated

Missiles, including bottles, were thrown at the Red Lion pub in the Norfolk town which is managed by a group of Portuguese businessmen, following the dramatic game.

Gillian Shephard, the MP for South West Norfolk, said on Friday: "This was appalling.

"Thetford will not have a good reputation nationwide this morning."

The landlord of the pub, Sergio Quieros, said the damage to trade and the premises made it almost impossible for him to stay in the UK.

"I don't know if I will run the pub anymore.

"It's a shame because we have 6,000 Portuguese in Thetford.

"Maybe I'll go back to Portugal and stay there."

Diane Newman, who runs Portugal Media, the Portuguese newspaper in Thetford, said: "I think that any true English person will be appalled."

There were also 17 arrests in Hertfordshire after scenes of public disorder.

Five people were arrested in Watford, five in Hoddesdon, two in Stevenage, two in St Albans and one each in Hatfield, Hemel Hempstead and Hitchin, police said.

Double the calls

In the two hours after the game, the Essex Ambulance Service received double the number of calls it usually does.


Missiles were thrown at Portuguese fans in the pub


Ambulances went to five instances of assault in Clacton, two in Colchester, two in Leigh, and three in Southend.

There were also numerous calls from people who were drunk and had cut themselves on glass.

Scotland Yard said six people were arrested in Croydon for public order offences after the game.

Despite contingency plans West Yorkshire Police reported only a few smashed windows, no major problems and no repeat of the violence that followed England's defeat to France.

Ironically, police in Lisbon said England supporters were well behaved after the game.

"The English fans since they have been here have known both defeat and victory and in each case they have behaved in a very civilised way," a Portuguese police spokesman said.

How come the much maligned fans behave themselves in Portugal yet the ones back home cause so much havoc just because we lost at football?

Billy Bunter, Friday, 25 June 2004 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

because we were threatened with being booted out of the tournament if fans misbehaved in Portugal.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 25 June 2004 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)

also, I suspect ppl's expecations of the reaction from the police was different in the two countries.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 25 June 2004 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

So we just smash up our country and threaten portugese people instead, how civilised.

Billy Bunter, Friday, 25 June 2004 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

we're not the only country that has fans who do this sort of crap, not that this justifies it of course.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 25 June 2004 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

very true. It's still a major problem here though that needs eradicated. What good is moving the problem from one country to another?

Billy Bunter, Friday, 25 June 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I never ever hear loud shouting football idiots here in Berlin. The other night I heard some coming along the Karl Marx Allee, threatening people and smashing things as they came. I was so surprised that I went to my window. As the voices got closer, I heard they were native English. All was explained.

Momus (Momus), Friday, 25 June 2004 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

What about that festival where they go around smashing things along that kurfustendam street?

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 25 June 2004 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you mean the Love Parade? I think 'Techno Music' had its license to thrill revoked this year by the government. (We music fans revoked it several years ago.)

Momus (Momus), Friday, 25 June 2004 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

How come the much maligned fans behave themselves in Portugal yet the ones back home cause so much havoc just because we lost at football?

Maybe because authorities were pretty succesful in blocking trouble-makers at the border, thus left with no other option that to riot between themselves?

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Friday, 25 June 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

That was the one. (xpost to Momus).

I noted that the coverage of this on "Good Morning" had the Jersey incident described as "The portugese bar we featured yesterday". Like, umm, a bit responsible?

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 25 June 2004 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

are westbam and dr motte still involved with love parade, or did they move on?

charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 25 June 2004 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Any numbers about domestic violence incidents?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 June 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I beat HSA with a cane last night. But it had nothing to do with footie!

He wants to be me (kate), Friday, 25 June 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm so sorry. I shall go back to lurking now.

He wants to be me (kate), Friday, 25 June 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

the other place in Thetford was also featured on Radio 5 as a "hot bed of Portugese national pride"

I thought it was a bit stupid at the time

chris (chris), Friday, 25 June 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

hot bed of Portugese national pride

Great! Now I'm erect and I'm not even sure why.

Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 25 June 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I beat HSA with a cane last night. But it had nothing to do with footie!
-- He wants to be me (masonicboo...) (webmail), June 25th, 2004. (link)

Umm, is your assumed name a continuation of your tale, here?

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 25 June 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

No, because then I would be called...

He wants to beat me (kate), Friday, 25 June 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)


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