CERT Recommends Mozilla, Firefox (STOP USING INTERNET EXPLORER OR FACE TEH CONSEQUENCES!@!@!@)

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As if all the spyware crap you Windows people get wasn't bad enough!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6746-2004Jun25.html


Virus Designed to Steal Windows Users' Data
Hundreds of Web Sites Targeted




By Brian Krebs
Special to The Washington Post
Saturday, June 26, 2004; Page A01

A new Internet virus has surfaced that allows hackers to steal passwords, credit card numbers and other personal information when someone merely visits an infected Web site, government computer security experts warned this week.

Hundreds of Web sites have been targeted by the virus, which exploits flaws in Microsoft Corp.'s Windows Internet software, according to an alert issued Thursday by the U.S. Computer Emergency Readiness Team (US-CERT), a division of the Department of Homeland Security.

Infected sites were programmed to connect people using the Microsoft Internet Explorer browser to a Web site that contains code allowing hackers to record what users type, such as passwords and credit card and Social Security numbers. The code then e-mails that information to the anonymous attackers.

Government officials would not identify the infected sites; computer security vendors said many have taken steps to fix the problem. In addition, most large Internet service providers have stopped forwarding Web traffic to the Russian Web site that apparently hosts the software that records what is typed, minimizing the theft of data, officials said.

Among the several Web sites hit by the virus, dubbed "js.scob.trojan" by one antivirus vendor, were the Web sites of the Kelley Blue Book automobile pricing guide and MinervaHealth Inc., a Jackson, Wyo., company that provides online financial services for hospitals and health care businesses.

Robyn Eckard, a spokeswoman for the Irvine, Calif.-based Kelley Blue Book, said the company learned about the problem late Wednesday after Web site visitors said their antivirus software tipped them off to the code. Eckard said Kelly Blue Book removed the malicious code from its site by late Thursday afternoon.

Jennifer Scharff, vice president of marketing for MinervaHealth, said some of the company's clients reported the problem on Thursday. The company has since fixed its site, she said. Scharff said no more than 50 visitors browsed the Web site during the time it was serving up the hostile code.

Stephen Toulouse, a security program manager at Microsoft, said the company does not believe the attack is widespread. "Nonetheless, we view this as a very real threat, with serious significance in terms of the potential impact on our customers," he said.

Toulouse said the company is gathering information on the attack and will hand it over to the FBI.

FBI spokesman Joe Parris declined to say whether the FBI is investigating the attack. "These types of Trojan horse attacks are not that uncommon, and we work closely with Microsoft in investigating matters of this type and always follow up on any information provided by industry," he said.

Security experts said the attack represents the latest variation on "phishing" scams, a form of fraud designed to trick people into giving personal data to criminals who have designed Web sites to look like those of respectable companies.

Ken Dunham, malicious code manager for iDefense Inc., a Reston-based computer security company, said he expects this kind of attack to become more widespread in coming weeks and months.

"These guys have the tools, techniques and motivation to launch highly sophisticated attacks that are very difficult for consumers to protect themselves against," he said. "Whoever is responsible has just seen how well this attack works, and other [hacker groups] are almost surely going to take notice."

Computers experts urged Internet users to install firewalls and antivirus software and to download the latest updates. A CERT alert said Explorer users also can protect themselves by turning off the JavaScript function in their browsers. That change, however, can impair Internet browsing since JavaScript is a programming language used to add interactive functions to many Web sites.

The attack takes advantage of several recently discovered security flaws in Microsoft's Internet browser and Internet Information Services Web software. Microsoft released a patch in April to fix one security hole in its Internet browser; the company is still working on a patch for the other flaw, which security researchers publicly detailed less than two weeks ago.

CERT recommends that Explorer users consider other browsers that are not affected by the attack, such as Mozilla, Mozilla Firefox, Netscape and Opera. Mac, Linux and other non-Windows operating systems are immune from this attack. For people who continue to use the Internet Explorer, CERT and Microsoft recommend setting the browser's security settings to "high," but that can impair some browsing functions.

Krebs is a staff writer for washingtonpost.com. Staff writer Michael Musgrove contributed to this report.

People love Gravity and Ebullition! (ex machina), Sunday, 27 June 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw this, totally lit a fire under me to switch browsers (guess I was just lazy before). I'm pretty happy with firefox so far.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 27 June 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

do you like tabs? do you have smart tabs going on? popup blocking?

People love Gravity and Ebullition! (ex machina), Sunday, 27 June 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Mac, Linux and other non-Windows operating systems are immune from this attack.

lalalalala, I love my powerbook.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 27 June 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

ppppppppppppowerbook

People love Gravity and Ebullition! (ex machina), Sunday, 27 June 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

http://bu.dotsomething.net/powerbook/files/pb_g4chipright_09162003.gif


LASER!!!

People love Gravity and Ebullition! (ex machina), Sunday, 27 June 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/biondino/photos/whylaser.jpg

Markelby (Mark C), Sunday, 27 June 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Firefox quite a bit, though it's slower in Panther than in Jaguar in my experience.. Nothing another 512MB of RAM won't take care of, I think, and I've been meaning to do that anyway.

Microsoft users: live by the turd, die by the turd.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 27 June 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Firefox. It seems fast to be and now I really miss mouse gestures and tabs when I'm on IE at work.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 27 June 2004 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Ive started using Mozilla at home, tho the tabbed browsing thing is like "so what?" and I have it off for the most part anyway (I orefer to spawn new windows, as Ive always done). The popup blocker is nice tho. Its download manager SUCKs and doesnt work, I had to disable it.

Anyhoo, my point. IE is all we're allowed to use at my work, ha har. If these machines all get infected I'll be amused, tho we run such tight firewall security its possibly unlikely but still. I must make a note not to do any online banking from work in the meantime I guess.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 27 June 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

How is Opera when it comes to online security?

j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 28 June 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

DON'T USE MOZILLA USE FIREFOX


ALSO: VIRUSES COME OVER THE FUCKING HTTP CONECTTIONSSNO

People love Gravity and Ebullition! (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh, I use Mozilla because I also use the mail/usenet clients it comes with - whats the problem with it? (I'd rather one run program wots a little bloated than a browser, newsreader, FTP client, email...

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 28 June 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck, my typing is shithouse today! I look stupid.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 28 June 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i haven't tried mozilla-suite in a while...

People love Gravity and Ebullition! (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

"SANS Internet Storm Center is reporting on a new strain of IE Malware. This one targets bank customers, which in itself is nothing new. But the catch is in the way it does it: it installs a Browser Help Object (BHO) that can capture login information before it is encrypted, and 'watches for HTTPS (secure) access to URLs of several dozen banking and financial sites in multiple countries.'."

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three weeks pass...
If you haven't switched to Firefox yet, then the Fix AMG extension should be all the reason you need.

I've written an extension for Mozilla Firefox that, when installed, alters the display and functionality of allmusic.com. Specifically, it does the following:

It cleans up the horrible JavaScript-only links sitewide, thus enabling 21st-century browsing techniques such as tabbed browsing and opening links in new windows.

It hides the annoying Flash spinner thing atop each page.

It changes the functionality of the "Read more..." links on band and album detail pages. On the old AMG, band and album pages contained full reviews. Now, they feature only the first few sentences, with a link to "Read more..." on a separate page. The extension changes the functionality of that "Read more..." link so that, instead of taking you to a new page, clicking the link will dynamically load the full band/album review and insert it inline.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i kiss you with guns

g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

so is there any major difference between:
using mozilla
using firefox + thunderbird?

i've been using mozilla for a while now, but the firefox browser seems a little zippier and i like the extensions for it better. but i still need an e-mail client...

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Regarding the "Stop Using IE or Face teh consequences!" part of the thread, here's something to ponder: The Final Virus (http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/final-virus.html)

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm sorry, i can't read anything involving orrin hatch

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

seven months pass...
After about a year, I just got the following email:

Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 1:31 PM
Subject: Mozilla Firefox

Hello:

Please advised[sic] why Mozilla Firefox is installed on your computer. Firefox is not [clip]'s standard Internet Browser and will be removed from workstations.

Thank You,

Desktop Engineering - U.S.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

tell me why firefox randomly blocks certain images!!!!

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 24 February 2005 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

portable firefox!

mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 24 February 2005 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...
Don't forget to upgrade Firefox today. Apparently there were some security issues.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Kind of Off Topic: Don't install Flash Player 8 Beta, it doesn't work in Firefox.

Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

Kind of Off Topic #2: Version 1.0+ of Mozilla Thunderbird has a HUGE memory leak problem. It takes forever for the Inbox to load, it thinks there are about 2000-10000 more messages in your Inbox than there are, and it'll chew up memory quick-like if you leave it idle for too long.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

I've noticed that, too. Hopefully that'll be fixed in the new version of Thunderbird that comes out tomorrow.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

Yikes! I was thinking about ditching Mail.app for Thunderbird.... can anyone tell me what Thunderbird has that rules?

Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

The Mac version doesn't seem to have that problem. And you only notice it if you get thousands of pieces of spam a day, like I do.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

But really, mail.app is the best mail program the world has ever seen. Don't bother ditching it.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

OKAY

Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

In my experience, everything about Thunderbird is great, though I like it mostly for the adaptable Junk Mail filter. There were some stumbling blocks re: e-mail aliases in earlier releases (that is, using multiple e-mail addresses on the same "account"), but that's been, um, addressed. Also, Thunderbird doesn't seem to allow for automatic e-mail forwarding in their Filters (unlike Outlook or OE, the only other mail clients I've used). But, otherwise, I love it.

What I'm REALLY hoping for is a newer version of their calendar program.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

thunderbird ownz... on windows. not sure if i could compare/contrast vs. mail.app. pretty similar.

i've always noticed that memory issue. it's been around since earlier versions.
m.

msp (mspa), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
security update - 1.0.7

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

tenny - did you read that Opera is now offering their premium browser free? They're looking to increase market share since Firefox is currently kicking their a**

I only just got Firefox based on the "it's 2005 what browser do you use" thread, but was afraid to use the beta, I loaded the standard version. Is Opera a better bet? I am weaning off IE entirely and like the tabbed thing at the top very much on Firefox.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/6950/opera1ix.th.jpg

M. V. (M.V.), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

That little thingy next to the search box allows you to fit wide pages into the window on small monitors--no side-scrolling on small screens. As you can see, tabbing is supported.

(Note: this is my idiosyncratic minimalist arrangement; on installation the array of buttons and bars is, eh, Maybachy.)

M. V. (M.V.), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
Jon, did you ever switch from Mail.app to Thunderbird? I'm having some Mail issues and wondering if I should switch.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Monday, 12 December 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)

I don't see how anyone could actually use IE

Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Monday, 12 December 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

i use it with a mouse

ken c (ken c), Monday, 12 December 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

it's amazing though. the new Dell laptop had Firefox pre-installed (as well as explorer)

ken c (ken c), Monday, 12 December 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

i have the new version but some images still won't load! it's like it loads whatever images it wants to. doesn't anyone else have this problem?

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 12 December 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

I don't suppose you've accidentally added some sites to the image blocker?

Greig (treefell), Monday, 12 December 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

www.pornwithpopups.com

ken c (ken c), Monday, 12 December 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

nope! there's nothing there. it's very weird, it will load some images from a site, but not others from the same site. if it's important i have to right-click and view image sometimes.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 12 December 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
hey so u know how fasterfox opens multiple connections and whatever to speed shit up, well what are the issues involved that might prevent me from making it even stupidlier super turbo messing in the about:config prefs? are the limitations just based on courtesy to ppl's bandwidth or does stuff actually stop working properly if u go too far? and if someone here has modded up in this fashion then how far did u go?

rtcotm (mwah), Saturday, 18 March 2006 12:58 (twenty years ago)

like this kinda stuff:

network.http.max-connections =
network.http.max-connections-per-server =
network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server=
network.http.pipelining =
network.http.pipelining.maxrequests =
network.http.request.max-start-delay =

rtcotm (mwah), Saturday, 18 March 2006 13:03 (twenty years ago)

dear firefox, why u crash all time now?

s/c johnson wax (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 18 March 2006 22:00 (twenty years ago)

Well, yeah, max-connections-per-server is more about being polite to remote servers then any real constraint on the client side. Please be polite though...if you do crank that number up, you're likely to see diminishing returns very quickly and if everyone did this it would make server load more spikey.

It's been a while since I really paid attention to such things, but I suspect that most of the precieved performance improvements here with cranking this up would be mostly to do with poor scheduling on the client side and lots of big stuff with lots of small stuff on the server side. For example, you've got a pile of connections open downloading flash while smaller images and text get starved out. That and if you have a really high latency link, it makes things better. Pipelining would make that even better, but...

Although pipelining would theortically be wonderful to turn on, there's a fair number of web servers out there that don't react very well with pipelined HTTP requests. It's probably set to "false" by default for a reason. Stuff will get faster if you turn it on, but some sites may not work at all.

With this said, I've never used fasterfox or even know what it is..

mikef (mfleming), Saturday, 18 March 2006 23:46 (twenty years ago)

firefox never crashes on me; which version are you using jody?

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 20 March 2006 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Firefox doesn't let me fill in forms sometimes. Anyone else get this?
(Mac – 10.4.5 but had it in previous versions too)

beanz (beanz), Monday, 20 March 2006 14:14 (twenty years ago)

no

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Monday, 20 March 2006 15:03 (twenty years ago)

oh

beanz (beanz), Monday, 20 March 2006 15:12 (twenty years ago)

nglayout.initialpaint.delay = 0 does more for your average users' perception of speedy browsing than any pipelining config change

that being said, I do turn on pipelining, and crank that bitch up to 30, but I don't change any of the other network.http defaults.

TOMBOT, Monday, 20 March 2006 20:13 (twenty years ago)

That isn't even worth doing.

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Monday, 20 March 2006 20:40 (twenty years ago)

Which one? This from captain "I debate WPA vs WEP and different levels of passwd strength on my home network" reynolds wrap for a hat guy.

TOMBOT, Monday, 20 March 2006 20:52 (twenty years ago)

FIREFOX STILL DOESN'T WORK ON MY HOME LAPTOP, WITHOUT EXPLANATION

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 20 March 2006 20:53 (twenty years ago)

Isn't it time to put your knowledge to use in an Apple thread? http://www.ode.state.or.us/images/initiatives/oraccessnet/fkey/keyF05.gif

Wait... the man too lazy to LOGIN to ILX is telling us to use about:config?

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Monday, 20 March 2006 20:58 (twenty years ago)

PWNED

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 14:46 (twenty years ago)

firefox never crashes on me; which version are you using jody?

whatever the most recent version is (for windows, and NO THAT'S NOT WHY; it was running beautifully up until about two weeks ago). i check for spyware/viruses pretty often, so i'm almost certain it's not that. i wonder if there's some other program it's conflicting with?

problems:

1) taking a long time to load when i try to start it
2) hanging ("not responding")
3) randomly shutting down (w/ "feedback agent" popup)

My faxed joke won a pager in the cable TV quiz show. (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Dude there are ways of working this shit out RTFM

NICKBURNS (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 15:06 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

Firefox really sucks lately. Real talk.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 21 March 2008 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

It does? I think FF3beta4 is the best of the FF3 betas and the first one that made me completely ditch version 2.x

StanM, Friday, 21 March 2008 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

my regular version is crash like hell lately. don't know what's up.

i tried the beta and it wasn't much better (tho i am on a mac so maybe that's the difference)

i actually started using safari for the first time in ages again, and it's consistently faster than FF right now.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 21 March 2008 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

I am having none of these firefox issues on XP or OS X. then again I refuse to upgrade to leopard until they force the issue.

El Tomboto, Friday, 21 March 2008 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

anyway as regards the original advisory, at this point the only vaguely safe way to use the internet IMEO is to use firefox with noscript and adblock with filterset g

El Tomboto, Friday, 21 March 2008 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

or just never use javascript or flash or quicktime plugin

El Tomboto, Friday, 21 March 2008 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

firefox has a fucking horrible memory leak or something, at least in XP, leave it open with gmail for half a day and watch it eat up everything it can

akm, Friday, 21 March 2008 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

Seems to top out at 150MB for me. I'd rather deal with that than an infestation of mebroot

El Tomboto, Friday, 21 March 2008 21:12 (eighteen years ago)


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