TAMPA, Florida (AP) -- A 23-year-old middle-school teacher was charged with having sex with a 14-year-old student in a classroom, at her apartment and, once, in a vehicle while the teen's 15-year-old cousin drove.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/South/06/29/teacher.sex.ap/index.html
I realize it's a double standard, but I don't get as outraged when the "victim" is a boy and the perp looks like this teacher. I suppose I should. Obv., the woman is unhinged and a nut. If she'd do this, what else would she do. But I don't think the boy will be scarred for life.
― Skottie, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)
(xpost, guess so)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― My New Identity (kate), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vic Fluro, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― ¥¤±²£¢Ð¼æ®ª«¶Þ÷³¹ß½Ø×©§¾¿¥¤±²£¢Ð¼æ®ª«¶Þ÷³¹ß½Ø×©§¾¿¥¤±²£¢Ð¼æ®ª«¶Þ÷³¹ß½Ø×©§¾¿ (ex , Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― de, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)
In what possible context is the 14 year old pissed off by this? Has he been expelled? Perhaps he's being forced to have counselling or something.
― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Skottie, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)
The basic scenario is that the teacher is abusing her position to do this with a child of her choosing. My opinion is that there is actually no difference. But people are more likely to think that a girl has had her innocence removed while a boy has been made a man.
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)
Or what Nick says.
― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Skottie, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)
Also, it's a truism that EVERY 14 YEAR OLD BOY IN THE WORLD is perpetually horny. There is quite literally nothing they would want more than sex with a hott teacher. I'm not in a position to say if the same's true for girls.
(xx-post)
― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)
And yeah, it is equally damaging, though not in the same way. It's still an authority figure taking advantage. What about same-sex student-teacher liaisons?
― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Skottie, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)
x-post to Ricky - yes, I agree, but I was trying to demonstrate why there are double standards. On an absolute level, force or the threat of it is a far bigger issue in the man/girl pairing than the other way round, which obv affects the emotional coercion aspect too.
― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― ¥¤±²£¢Ð¼æ®ª«¶Þ÷³¹ß½Ø×©§¾¿¥¤±²£¢Ð¼æ®ª«¶Þ÷³¹ß½Ø×©§¾¿¥¤±²£¢Ð¼æ®ª«¶Þ÷³¹ß½Ø×©§¾¿ (ex , Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)
= unpopular
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― P*s*m*n* (Pashmina), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)
Dude I'm in high school and I'm weirded out by the thought of having sex with any of my teachers, even the "hott" ones.
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)
Jon will u shake my hand plz k thx bye.
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Skottie, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)
x-post, again - RickyT and Skottie have just summed up what I'm trying to say.
― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― ¥¤±²£¢Ð¼æ®ª«¶Þ÷³¹ß½Ø×©§¾¿¥¤±²£¢Ð¼æ®ª«¶Þ÷³¹ß½Ø×©§¾¿¥¤±²£¢Ð¼æ®ª«¶Þ÷³¹ß½Ø×©§¾¿ (ex , Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)
ewwwwww
― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)
crossposts
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)
A 14 year old horny boy = world to be protected from himA 14 year old horny girl = girl needs to be protected from world.
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 1 July 2004 08:42 (twenty-one years ago)
andrew have you heard the story about the guy who was shipwrecked on an island with the most beautiful girl in the world?
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 1 July 2004 09:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 1 July 2004 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)
Being attracted? Fine. Being attracted because the pupil is forbidden? Perfectly fine. Acting on that attraction while the pupil is under your care? Wrong.
(but, then, I think teacher-student relationships at any age are highly, highly dubious. as are lecturer-TA relationships. and CO-subordinate relationships in a chain-of-command situation.)
xpost: do tell, Ken.
― cis (cis), Thursday, 1 July 2004 09:20 (twenty-one years ago)
Sprawled on the shore nearly passed out from exhaustion, he turns his head and sees a woman lying near him, who had also managed to survive this far, but she was unconscious and barely breathing. He makes his way to her, and with some mouth-to-mouth assistance he manages to get her breathing and conscious again. She looks up at him, wide-eyed and grateful and says, "My God, you saved my life!" He suddenly realizes the woman is Natalie Porter!
Days and weeks go by. Natalie and our guy are living on the island together. They've set up a hut, there's fruit on the trees, and they're in heaven. Natalie's fallen madly in love with our man, and they're making passionate love morning, noon and night. True Heaven on earth in the man's eyes. Alas, one day she notices he's looking kind of glum.
"What's the matter, sweetheart?" she asks. "We have a wonderful life together and I'm in love with you." "Is there something wrong? Is there anything I can do?"
He says, "Actually, Natalie, there is. Would you mind, putting on my shirt?""Sure," she says," if it'll help." He takes off his shirt and she puts it on. "Now would you put on my pants?" he asks. "Sure, honey, if it's really going to make you feel better," she says. "Okay, would you put on my hat now, and draw a little mustache on your face?" he asks. "Whatever you want, sweetie," she says, and does.
Then he says, "Now, would you start walking around the edge of the island?" She starts walking around the perimeter of the island. He sets off in the other direction.
They meet up half way around the island a few minutes later. He rushes up to her, grabs her by the shoulders, and says, "Dude! You'll never believe who I'm sleeping with!"
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 1 July 2004 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 1 July 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 1 July 2004 10:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 1 July 2004 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 1 July 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 1 July 2004 11:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 1 July 2004 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 1 July 2004 11:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 1 July 2004 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 1 July 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 1 July 2004 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 1 July 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 1 July 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)
I disagree with you spittle. and as for the 16girl 25man relationship you describe, I think that's highly questionable as well. If I knew a student of mine was involved in such a relationship I would certainly report it to authorties.
― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Thursday, 1 July 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 1 July 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Thursday, 1 July 2004 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)
I get what you're trying to say here, but the point is that legally there is no such thing as consensual sex with a 14-year-old.
― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 1 July 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)
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― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 1 July 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Be Sure To Roop, Roop, Roop !!!! (deangulberry), Thursday, 1 July 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 1 July 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 1 July 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 1 July 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)
The teacher, Sterling Johnson, was charged with misdemeanor assault and a misdemeanor count of disturbing the peace. The school system will seek to have him fired, said Creg Williams, superintendent of public schools in St. Louis.
Johnson, 55, is an industrial arts teacher at the Pruitt Military Academy, a magnet school in the district.
After arriving at school Monday morning, police said Johnson asked a student to retrieve a bag containing a bottle of cognac from his car. Police then said Johnson rubbed the buttocks and thigh of a 13-year-old girl and directed a sexual remark at another 13-year-old girl.
The principal ordered the teacher, who has been teaching for 22 years, to leave after becoming aware of his behavior, police said. Johnson complied but returned a short time later and was arrested. Williams said a hidden bottle of liquor was found in Johnson's classroom.
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 10:41 (twenty years ago)
WHY HAS NOONE PICKED UP ON THIS BEFORE!
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:12 (twenty years ago)
― JTS (JTS), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:16 (twenty years ago)
Where was a middle school student going to get this?
― JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:19 (twenty years ago)
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― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:55 (twenty years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 19:04 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 19:06 (twenty years ago)
apparently this kid died
― gfunkboy (history mayne), Thursday, 11 March 2010 15:22 (sixteen years ago)
of high-fiving
― paul shart: mall plop (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 11 March 2010 15:25 (sixteen years ago)
(that joke was on SNL, btw)
several teacher "sex scandals" breaking in la recently, this one involving female teacher/teen boys. predictable reactions when this happens "i'd hit it" and "these dudes aren't victims" to be found in comment section (and in this thread even).
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/02/teacher-roosevelt-high-school-arrested.html
― buzza, Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:54 (fourteen years ago)
Disappointed "niiiiiice" isn't among the reactions tbh
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:57 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Delaware-English-Teacher-Sex-257004511.html
find this sad more than anything else. i have it on good authority (ok, my gf, who's met her) that the accused was an unconfident, quiet, fairly childlike young lady, unable to establish mutual emotional bonds with adults. i.e. a fucked-up childhood led to a projection of her need for physical affection onto a child. people in this situation need proper mental healthcare and (on the same authority) a friend transplant, not prison.
a 22 year-old paedophile is a weird thing to think about really
like i say, sad. especially for the kid. buzza otm just there
― imago, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 00:02 (twelve years ago)