Ernie Bushmiller's "Nancy": C/D?

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I always assumed this strip was terrible, mainly because of its rep (and the present-day incarnation doesn't help), but I happened to read a bunch of the old ones in a big book of newspaper comics the other day and it's absolutely amazing! There's something mildly creepy and unsettling about it that I can't quite put my finger on - that absolutely blank, deadpan tone reminds me of something like "Zippy," only Bushmiller does it a lot better.

A good case for the defense: http://www.interestingideas.com/ii/nancy.htm

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 23 July 2004 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)

It was a terrific strip in its prime, and that prime lasted for many years. I have a couple of tremendous collections.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 23 July 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

It was all about that weird mom.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)

the one thing I like about the relatively recent return to Bushmiller type strips is that it is soooo fuuuuucckked uuup these days. ugly fat children and Elvis winking from a framed picture and shit like that.

ROLLO!

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 24 July 2004 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I just got an old Comics Journal with a Dan Clowes interview, and he agrees with me!

Gary Groth: What's your position on Ernie Bushmiller?

Clowes: I'm pro-Bushmiller. I mean, I don't like to get up on my soapbox and pontificate about Bushmiller as much as some of these people because I think that defeats the whole purpose. But to me, Nancy had an amazing atmosphere to it that I found kind of scary and off-putting, and really interesting. So yeah, I love Bushmiller, and this new guy who does Nancy should be shot.

G: For betraying the Bushmiller ethos?

C: Yeah, that's just awful dreck.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 24 July 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

(of course that interview's from 1992, so he's not referring to the current artist on Nancy, but the other guy who did the strip for about a decade and tried to "normalize" it)

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 24 July 2004 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

But to me, Nancy had an amazing atmosphere to it that I found kind of scary and off-putting, and really interesting


sums up the then and now (but not the normalizer) quite well

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 24 July 2004 05:01 (twenty-one years ago)

AH CHOO

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 24 July 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I swear there's been a thread about this. Anyway if you want a coffee table book, WRITE a REAL LETTER to the contact info on the official Nancy site, begging for it. Basically the caretakers of Bushmiller's estate want to do it but their publisher doesn't think it'll sell.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 24 July 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

There has been a coffee tableish book before - I have it.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 24 July 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

five card nancy!

jess, Saturday, 24 July 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was kinda cool that aunt fritzie wears suzy boguss t-shirts now. that dude is a serious country fan.

oh, but yeah, Bushmiller was the coolest.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 24 July 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

haha - the only time i've written a letter to the atlanta journal-constitution was when they dropped the daily edition of nancy.

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)


cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

o goddammit

ihttp://www.gilchriststudios.com/nancy/celeb2/10b.gif

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, that hurt my head, but it was also immeasurably better than freakin' Mutts. So is the whole Bettie Page thing the Gilchrists' special touch?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
back in 1994 ivan brunetti tried out for nancy - he came spookily close to the original strip's look and tone: http://www.ivanbrunetti.com/portfolio/misc/nancystrips.html

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 12 September 2005 07:40 (twenty years ago)

http://www.joebrainard.org/NANCY_MAIN.htm

anthony, Monday, 12 September 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

Okay, should I buy this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/COMIC-STRIP-NANCY-DOLL_W0QQitemZ140281671292QQihZ004QQcategoryZ723QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:13 (seventeen years ago)

cuz it's kinda awesome.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:13 (seventeen years ago)

That's freaking Little Lulu.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:13 (seventeen years ago)

My first thought too, Abbott.
But the "Field Enterprises" mark is the folks what own the Nancy trademark.

Perhaps this less humanized version will strike truer to home.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-40s-Comic-Strip-Nancy-Doll-Georgene-Averill_W0QQitemZ280285480083QQihZ018QQcategoryZ36549QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:18 (seventeen years ago)

THERE we go. That is the Nancy I would buy.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:18 (seventeen years ago)

srsly when did Nancy ever wear Moccasins?

Maybe it's like a Tijuana-style Lulu ripoff, that first one.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:19 (seventeen years ago)

I like the weird hydrocephalic Nancy; my gut tells me it's a licensed piece from the strips nuttier period.
Why is there no reprint set of Nancy material? It's certainly as marketable as Pogo.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:22 (seventeen years ago)

Even '20s-'30s strips when it was Fritzi Ritz before Nancy spin-off, she didn't look like that.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:25 (seventeen years ago)

Now i really want to buy this just to be sure.
But I can hardly justify it.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:29 (seventeen years ago)

I have a great Nancy compendium from eBay ($8) that has commentary from Art Spiegelman & others. v. good!

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:30 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, Kitchen Sink did a buncha reprints that I would buy used if I could find them at the Strand. You know the whole Griffith "Three Rocks" philosophy, right?

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:32 (seventeen years ago)

That whole strip is in there.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:33 (seventeen years ago)

potential tattoo for when I just don't care anymore:
http://www.rdrop.com/%7Ehalf/Personal/Hobbies/Comics/Nancy/3Rocks.gif

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

and is AWESOME and true

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

haha forks I would get that

next tat I have lined up (hopefully as an xmas gift!) is a tat of the old Comics Code of Authority seal of approval

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

"Art Spiegelman explains how a drawing of three rocks in a background scene was Ernie's way of showing us there were some rocks in the background. It was always three. Why? Because two rocks wouldn't be 'some rocks.' Two rocks would be a pair of rocks. And four rocks was unacceptable because four rocks would indicate 'some rocks' BUT IT WOULD BE ONE ROCK MORE THAN WAS NECESSARY TO CONVEY THE IDEA OF 'SOME ROCKS.'"

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:35 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, a girl with a comic code authority seal gets love forever.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:37 (seventeen years ago)

I am thinking my inner arm between pit & right elbow.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:38 (seventeen years ago)

Those Kitchen Sink compilations are great. I wish I'd picked up more than the two I have -- they were cheaper than dirt for a while in the mid 90s.

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:42 (seventeen years ago)

Did that publishing company die? They put out Cages, right?

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:43 (seventeen years ago)

Denis Kitchen got caught in the speculator bubble-bust, sold out to Kevin Eastman...limbo.

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:44 (seventeen years ago)

I would think the tramp stamp comics code would be the classy way to go.
All that Kitchen Sink stuff seems to have more or less disappeared from used book stores and comic shops in the city.
I think Tundra did Cages?
Kitchen Sink did fold, yes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchen_Sink_Press
A shame, cause they were simply a decade or so ahead of their time.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:45 (seventeen years ago)

The Lil' Abner reprints are the most priceless stuff they did; I'm often tempted to blow a shitload of money and buy up a bunch of em.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:47 (seventeen years ago)

I am lucky, they have them at my public library.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:50 (seventeen years ago)

I know it's not fashionable to like Al Capp so much these days, but boy he could really tell a bigoted, wingnut story!

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:53 (seventeen years ago)

Fucking Comics.com keeps interrupting their Lil Abner Classics in the middle of storylines!

There is no Grodd but Mallah and Congorilla is His Prophet. (Oilyrags), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:13 (seventeen years ago)

I know it's not fashionable to like Al Capp so much these days, but boy he could really tell a bigoted, wingnut story!

maybe in the 60's, but I wouldn't call stuff like the Shmoo and the Bald Iggle the products of a bigoted wingnut.

clotpoll, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:35 (seventeen years ago)

He could also tell hilarious slapstick nonsense story.

And is obv better (in quality, art & bigotry level) than say Katzenjammer Kids or Bringing Up Father.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:48 (seventeen years ago)

Katzenjammer Kids never made me anything other than confused and bored.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:49 (seventeen years ago)

nine months pass...

Nancy, the voice of sanity in 1970

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 23 August 2009 05:41 (sixteen years ago)

Coming soon.

KEEP CALM+++THRILL FACTOR OVERLOAD+++KEEP CALM (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 23 August 2009 08:05 (sixteen years ago)

I liked the floral hipsters joke

salvador dollywood (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 23 August 2009 08:13 (sixteen years ago)

Putting yourself smoking a cigarette in a comic strip for children really is a choice in 2026

Mary Whitehouse over here

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 26 February 2026 10:21 (three months ago)

seriously though. i assume these are actually getting printed up in the funny pages in Sunday newspapers somewhere right? if there were actually any human editors of these things (weak laugh) i'd have expected them to be outraged, not run the strip etc

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 26 February 2026 10:31 (three months ago)

The audience for comic strips - i.e. senior citizens - is I think less likely to get outraged over cigarette use than pretty much everyone else, though they are obv outraged at Cash for other reasons.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 26 February 2026 10:34 (three months ago)

it’s the #58008 issue of PPPP, isn’t it

uploading this content requires perseveration (sic), Thursday, 26 February 2026 10:41 (three months ago)

interesting

https://bsky.app/profile/cashbrowns.bsky.social/post/3mgas2x6rsc26

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 March 2026 18:38 (three months ago)

holy shit she just retconned the entire history of nancy

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 4 March 2026 20:20 (three months ago)

maybe. or maybe there's a reason none of Aunt Fritzi's relationships seemed to last

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 March 2026 20:23 (three months ago)

fritzie does look like a character from Love and Rockets

Mollusk, Virginia (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 4 March 2026 21:49 (three months ago)

Wondering if the boomers who got angry when Gilchrist left and they couldn't jack it to Fritzi anymore are angry or turned on by this new development. Probably both.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 4 March 2026 21:56 (three months ago)

fritzie does look like a character from Love and Rockets

I mean....

https://www.comics.org/character/717/

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Wednesday, 4 March 2026 22:15 (three months ago)

CommonRuffian
4 hours ago
jaimes' run was good but this is reminding me it was missing a crucial element: the author wanting fritzi ritz carnally

visiting, Wednesday, 4 March 2026 22:29 (three months ago)

love it

map, Thursday, 5 March 2026 00:05 (three months ago)

two weeks pass...

playing the hits and i’m here for it

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2026/03/19

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 19 March 2026 22:53 (two months ago)

i really just think she gets the spirit of bushmiller

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2026/03/16

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 19 March 2026 22:55 (two months ago)

https://64.media.tumblr.com/adc5b2f367d75c8b47b947a3820b113d/tumblr_pcg1wjf8iP1qzfmh5o1_500.jpg

Bruce Hornsby–Big Stick 3:15 (Eliza D.), Friday, 20 March 2026 00:02 (two months ago)

nancy's a gemini

dream mummy (map), Sunday, 22 March 2026 23:17 (two months ago)

holy shit she just retconned the entire history of nancy

― Tracer Hand

nahhhh i mean it's kinda like velma from scooby doo being gay. everybody had to be straight back in the day so velma was assumed straight, but she was pretty openly based on zelda from dobie gillis, who was a straight character played by, uh, _sheila kuehl_.

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 22 March 2026 23:50 (two months ago)

i'm enjoying the latest storyline.

dream mummy (map), Friday, 3 April 2026 16:39 (two months ago)

the panel where jaimes suddenly appears with the #1 grandpa mug cracked me the f up.

dream mummy (map), Friday, 3 April 2026 16:40 (two months ago)

two weeks pass...

ccash is really starting to do her own thing with this. i'm into it!

dream mummy (map), Sunday, 19 April 2026 22:49 (one month ago)

it really is something. is there one in particular you're thinking about?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 20 April 2026 07:59 (one month ago)

agree! it's so interestingly strange. it feels like it's hard to do unself-conscious "strange" humour now, after decades of adult swim and shitposting. but this works somehow - it feels good to not really undestand (or care) how it works

also this is pretty good gag!
https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2026/04/17

and this is weird and i don't understand it, but also good!
https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2026/04/11

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 20 April 2026 10:39 (one month ago)

It's Sluggo Saturday Chuck, what don't you understand.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 20 April 2026 11:31 (one month ago)

it is her own thing but i feel it also leans in hard to the dream-like visual gags of the bushmiller days. like this one could straight-up be bushmiller. is there a joke here? kinda, but it's also like you're dreaming

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2026/04/14

Tracer Hand, Monday, 20 April 2026 11:59 (one month ago)

I like the one from yesterday a lot, this particular joke/observation has been done many times but the final wordless panel makes you go, "huh"

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2026/04/19

but yes I'm very glad the strip is in good hands - Bushmiller's sense of humor really did hold up well, can't think of an old comic strip that fits so well into modern meme culture than Nancy. it's great they've got someone willing to take chances and write the sort of jokes where you have to work out the punchline a bit.

frogbs, Monday, 20 April 2026 16:47 (one month ago)

I like the new stuff but I wish their lettering style was a bit more airtight, 'cuz the rest of the vibe works.

bendy, Monday, 20 April 2026 16:59 (one month ago)

ha almost mentioned this one here today - I remember reading this joke in a Dave Berg strip in Mad decades ago!

an uncharacteristically irritated Mr. Rogers (stevie), Monday, 20 April 2026 19:49 (one month ago)

oh thank god they corrected the misspelling of "experience"

c u (crüt), Monday, 20 April 2026 20:00 (one month ago)

xps yes i LOVE the sluggo sunday strip! there was also the one about nancy drawing herself as a famous artist. it's a simple joke on one level but expansive on another. i'll cop to not having read very much of the bushmiller strip but it seems to me like she's fleshing out the characters a little more. not necessarily in a realistic way but in a vibes way? idk.

dream mummy (map), Monday, 20 April 2026 20:37 (one month ago)

i have noticed that the lettering style calls attention to itself somewhat. i found it easy to get used to but i do wonder about it.

dream mummy (map), Monday, 20 April 2026 20:39 (one month ago)

it's very 90s to me, in how it's kind of shaggy and messy and personal. it was odd at first to see that in a nancy strip but i like it now. it's like fractures of the present busting into nancy's timeless mid-century milieu

Tracer Hand, Monday, 20 April 2026 22:32 (one month ago)

If it was a wordy comic the lettering would be intolerable. Alan Moore’s Nancy would need cleaner lettering. As it is, it’s charming and funky. Maybe a touch of Lynda Barry’s looseness in there.

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 21 April 2026 00:30 (one month ago)

I never really knew anything about this comic but I've been really digging it in its C Cash incarnation since the revive and I thank you all for that

Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Tuesday, 21 April 2026 02:05 (one month ago)

If you ever feel like digging back the Bushmiller stuff is amongst the most elegant, genius humour that you're ever likely to find in the medium.

The Gilchrist era is hilarious for...different reasons. Nancy meets the Moody Blues!

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 21 April 2026 09:35 (one month ago)

Gilchrist had this love of classic rock and Americana which was very genuine and almost charming sometimes, he was also a remarkably shitty cartoonist who made Fritzi incredibly busty and had her boyfriend wear Bob Seger shirts and constantly confess his insecurities, no wonder she's gay now

frogbs, Tuesday, 21 April 2026 14:40 (one month ago)

in my heart, it's still canon that Nancy has at least 8 posters of Travis Tritt in her bedroom

c u (crüt), Tuesday, 21 April 2026 15:22 (one month ago)

The more I learn about this wild dirtbag Nancy era the more I'm perversely impressed?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 April 2026 15:24 (one month ago)

we need a nancy x lil bubby child crossover

dream mummy (map), Tuesday, 21 April 2026 15:28 (one month ago)

Woah, Gilchrist Nancy was bonkers

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 21 April 2026 16:39 (one month ago)

https://i.ibb.co/wZqbHWnp/Screenshot-2026-04-21-at-22-07-51.png

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 21 April 2026 21:12 (one month ago)

I mean, unless you think "got fired from his sinecure on a legacy strip after sexually assaulting and (separately) beating up his assistant, before firing her over Facebook, and then posting pictures of them together on the 'gram captioned with long incoherent rants about how she's going to be federally indicted based on information he has given to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, and how he'd sacrificed so much to make her into a great artist, and thought of her as a daughter" is outweighed by him also including prayer emoji hands and explaining that he does whatever God tells him every morning

extremely cool aspect of the current media landscape that no reporting on this can still be found but the Moody Blues link itt is still active

uploading this content requires perseveration (sic), Tuesday, 21 April 2026 22:57 (one month ago)

...but cannot be seen in several countries.

uploading this content requires perseveration (sic), Tuesday, 21 April 2026 23:03 (one month ago)

cash should do a nancy strip about how this planit is fucked up and god is a crul ringmaster.

dream mummy (map), Tuesday, 21 April 2026 23:07 (one month ago)

Sluggo has a new friend, I think this strip may be targeting me specifically

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Thursday, 23 April 2026 18:03 (one month ago)

three weeks pass...

https://www.imagehost.at/image/ncq1U

mark s, Tuesday, 19 May 2026 15:49 (three weeks ago)

important cultural update: https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2026/05/17

mark s, Tuesday, 19 May 2026 15:50 (three weeks ago)

surely sluggo should be listening on a beat up old radio

c u (crüt), Tuesday, 19 May 2026 18:51 (three weeks ago)

sluggo is a gay hobo i knew it

shaking babies (map), Tuesday, 19 May 2026 19:01 (three weeks ago)

lmfao

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Tuesday, 19 May 2026 21:35 (three weeks ago)

i can relate https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2026/05/22

shaking babies (map), Friday, 22 May 2026 23:08 (three weeks ago)


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