The all Dragonlance all the time thread!

As a classic D&D nerd, I read "Autumn Twilight" right when it came out. I waited interminable months for the sequel. Haven't really gone back, but I do have intensely fond memories of the first six. Felt ripped off by everything after that.

I saw Weiss & Hickman speak at GenCon '88. They swore they would never write another DL book. I guess the joke is on me and they're laughing all the way to the bank.

I'm kinda scared to go back because the authors are religious and we all know what happened when we tried to reread the Narnia stuff...

Gah, the animation looks cheap. The CG stuff just looks like game cutscenes, but not horribly offensive.

It doesn't matter how bad it looks. We will all rent it, shut the curtains, and watch it anyway.

I'm kinda scared to go back because the authors are religious and we all know what happened when we tried to reread the Narnia stuff...

Well, there's a lot of 'the gods didn't leave man, man left the gods' hoohah, but the first Legends book (when they went back in time to Istar) actually does a pretty good (in years-ago-memory) job of portraying a nominally righteous religious society led by love and light in fact being little more than a cover for rapacious cruelty and ensuring its hold on power above all else. A standard trope but it's more than you would find in C. S. Lewis, or at least his fiction.

That's reassuring!

So it's actually an allegory for Lord of the Rings and not the bible?

^^ totally gully dwarf, man, 8080

"two, not more than two"

Further proof that Ta-Nehisi Coates knows what it's all about. Check the first entry.

What a great thread. I re-read Chronicles last year for the first time since around '88, and man do they stink. Didn't taint the memories exactly, but I do wonder why I read them over and over again from ages 12-15. Of course, I was also reading the Gor books, which make Dragonlance look like Pulitzer Prize winning material.

Larry Elmore may be known for these covers, but Snarfquest was his finest achievement. Which is no achievement at all.

i described the old videogame adaptation of the first book as 'frustratingly arbitrary' on twitter the other day; then this account (@the_arbitrator) automatically retweeted it as 'frustratingly definite'. i was confused.

I had that game - "Heroes of the Lance" - for my Tandy 2000. It looked like the screen shot here. I think I might have beat it once or twice - arbitrary and hard as hell, like many games from those days. Played the hell out of it - only had that and the Nine Princes In Amber game, which was also rather difficult.

http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/original/1211426248-00.png

it was a bit better looking on the master system:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/HqTC1nIImxs/0.jpg

because

Revive the thread Remy. You know you want to.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:26 PM (24 minutes ago)

i did want to

Wasn't there supposed to be an animated film or something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHrOfJ8_D0o

Oh dear.

The comic adaptation was quite good.

God, Dragonlance. I was obsessed when I was about 10, before moving on to longer (not sure about better) fantasy. I still have at least the core six books somewhere though I dread revisiting them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8yyhaB3qII&feature=related

Unleash the arguments

http://io9.com/why-dragonlance-should-be-the-next-fantasy-film-franchi-1520791414

that is a long book report

I loved these books so much. I think the last one I read was Dragons of Summer Flame, before progressing to more mature reading material (Death Gate).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dragon-Lance-The-Minotaur-Wars-Trilogy-MMPB-Richard-A-Knaak-/331149360459?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item4d1a0a3d4b

where are all the people clamoring for an in-depth exploration of krynn's minotaur culture? and why?

He wrote Kaz the Minotaur also, so his credentials are definitely unassailable.

the wikipedia page on raistlin majere describes him as possessing "relative depth"

From a few weeks back but it's a good read

http://www.avclub.com/article/first-dragonlance-novels-gave-dungeons-dragons-new-205614

And basically hits the nail on the head re: Raistlin.

joe abercrombie* : weis/hickman :: arch deluxe : big mac

(or grrm or scott lynch or patrick fuckin rothfuss)
(adding swearing and embarrassing fedora sex to your rollicking childrens adventure story takes away a lot more than it adds imo)

(in re: My reading preferences now lean more toward George R.R. Martin’s A Song Of Ice And Fire series—the source of the aforementioned Game Of Thrones—as well as other contemporary fantasists like Joe Abercrombie, Patrick Rothfuss, and Scott Lynch.)

Yeah the guy's current path is more than a little "Uh...you COULD expand a bit."

i thought it was interesting how much he harped on the unoriginality of krynn as a setting as i find krynn to be much more amorphous and suggestively drawn than say the lazy 1-to-1 mapping of the forgotten realms or something (tho i did prefer FR to dragonlance once upon a time tbh as i came of age during the drizzt do urden era)

Bump

Cataclysm time?

Of a sort

I named my tabby cat Tika.

I'm playing my first ever d&d game this weekend and bought Autumn Twilight for prep, to get et into the spirit.

I'm pretty sure I read one of these as a kid but god knows which one, there were 1000s by the time I got there. I wouldn't call it great so far, but it's super fun and readable. I lasted longer with this than Glen Cook, say.

shout-out to Dragonlance for predicting the entire 2000s nerd-jock dichotomy with Raistlin and Caramon including the nerd's slow descent into bitterness and evil

— sads mikkelsen (@corgzone) January 31, 2019

Figured we'd end up here:

Fantasy writers Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman (of Dragonlance fame) have sued D&D publisher Wizards of the Coast. Complicated allegations, but the gist is they were writing a new Dragonlance trilogy and WoTC said it would not approve further drafts, "no reason was provided."

— Cecilia D'Anastasio (@cecianasta) October 19, 2020

Weis and Hickman's complaint references rewrites following controversies around WoTC re: cultural insensitivity/bias in content and corporate culture. If anyone has more information, my DMS are open. https://t.co/jIeK7Yk4sH

— Cecilia D'Anastasio (@cecianasta) October 19, 2020

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I expect that once the details of this come to light, there will be plenty of facepalms for everyone

Although as the person who posted Taz Takes A Tentacle upthread, I am no position to judge the poor choices of others

We're all in this together.

I don’t really understand the background here – fuckery at WOTC aside, why did the problems with one product (magic the gathering) result in the cancellation of another?

as I said, I expect facepalms all around

Annnnnd all is resolved

https://io9.gizmodo.com/that-new-dragonlance-trilogy-from-the-series-classic-au-1846125826

Although as the person who posted Taz Takes A Tentacle upthread, I am no position to judge the poor choices of others

― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, October 19, 2020 11:25 AM (three months ago)

dying

A legend that lives on.

give me Otik's spicy potatoes STAT

Rob Bricken's (very great) column on old D&D novels, which has mostly been looking at Forgotten Realms stuff and a few side notes too, has, after dispatching one of the first spinoff novels, gotten around to starting the original trilogy:

https://gizmodo.com/dungeons-dragons-novels-revisiting-dragons-of-autu-1847446582

Unsurprisingly he says it's the best of the books he's read so far, which, yes.