ARMED ROBBERS STEAL THE SCREAM!

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Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

they don't look armed, in that photo.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

OSLO, Norway (CNN) -- Masked robbers stormed into an art museum in Norway and stole Edvard Munch's famous paintings "The Scream" and "Madonna" at gunpoint before the eyes of stunned museum-goers.

Sunday's raid happened in broad daylight at the the Oslo museum named after the Norwegian artist.

"They knew exactly where the paintings were and took them down from the wall," Jorunn Christophersen, head of information for the Munch Museum, told CNN.

The thieves also stole Munch's "Madonna."

"They are our most valuable paintings," Christophersen said.

She disputed a report that the paintings were unguarded, saying an alarm sounded after they pulled the paintings off the wall.

"There is an alarm system and [the paintings] are stuck to the wall with solid screws but they have just used force in taking the Munch [paintings] away," she said.

Christopherson also said the robbers threatened the guards with guns, as they headed out to their getaway car.

"The Scream" was stolen 10 years ago, from Oslo's National Art Museum, and recovered three months later after the perpetrators failed to extract ransom for its return.

So far, the perpetrators have not contacted authorities with any similar requests, Christophersen said.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Image problems, yes, I know.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

it was prolifers last time right?

cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

The one stolen ten years ago was a different version. I guess there are four versions.

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/arts/entertainment-crime-art-scream.html

Charlie Rose (Charlie Rose), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

FUCK! Munch's Madonna is one of my favorite paintings in the history of history!!

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

You mean the robbers stole the wrong painting for you?

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

je4nne frry is thomas crown

cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

As long as I get to bang Rene Russ0.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, this happened 5 mins walk from here. Have had helicopters overhead all day...

OleM (OleM), Sunday, 22 August 2004 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)

N. is funny.

the bellefox, Sunday, 22 August 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

"they don't look armed, in that photo."


They were armed with existential dread!!

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I always wonder what those two people are going to do when they pass the upset fellow. Do you think they will ask if he's OK?

(I have discounted the theory that they are armed assailants)

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

There should be a Scream 2.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, I know there was, but it didn't seem to bear any relation to the original.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

munch's painting was a result of krakatoa erupting, just in case you didn't know that:

http://www.mrp.swt.edu/mrp/relations/newsreleases/2003/12/12n3.html


scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

it's a theory actually. but it's a neat theory!

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

didn't he hear an endless secream piercing nature?

the dudes are walking away, surely?

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, that's expressionist theory blown out of the water.

Next: Seurat's Bathers revealed to be the result of his seeing some nice confetti at a wedding.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Cezanne and Monet just had bad eye sight.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I opened this thread hoping Bobby Gillespie & co. had been kidnapped.

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

They were the real targets!

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Monet did have poor eyesight.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, there you go.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

monet a manet maks a muckle.

impressionist, tho; monet and manet: a wannabe (I only mention him, for the joke)

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate all of these "explanations" of artworks. Van Gogh had a wonky eye! Tolstoy had logorrhea! Einstein's brain actually had E=mc(2) written in Sharpie on its underside! Let's come up with more reasons to pretend that we don't suck, and that people who've done more interesting things than us just had biological advantages!

nabiscothingy, Sunday, 22 August 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

van gogh had epilepsy and drank absinthe and got really religious and probably had some crazy visions and was pals with anthony quinn.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely, we weren't being serious?

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 22 August 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

munch didn't have a volcano in his eye or anything.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 22 August 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Picasso had an extra pair of arms.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 22 August 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

he just saw a pretty sky.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 22 August 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

pretty gay.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Masked armed robbers you say?
http://www.morbid.demon.co.uk/scream-cape.jpg

Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Sunday, 22 August 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

My immediate reaction was FOR FUCK'S SAKE, AGAIN???!!!

The Scream is very, very fragile and the original has tiny wax splashes from a guttering candle which would be virtually impossible for a forger to reproduce. I know this because I saw the docu about how they got it back THE LAST TIME. FFS.

Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 22 August 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

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Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

i guess somebody misheard the lyrics to the future bible heroes' "you steal the scene."

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

N. was funny about Scream 2, as well!

the bellefox, Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Van Gogh had a wonky eye!

I thought Van Gogh had migraines and associated thingy where you see a halo around sources of light.

isadora (isadora), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

this is the second scream, the first one was stolen in 1990 and hasnt been recovered.

i know the scream is more famous, but ms fury is right--the madonna is the more intertesting picture and the greater loss

anthony, Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

they recovered the first one "after several months" and not paying the ransom, I thought.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, they did (see my comments about the docu) but this is a different scream. The museum refuses to say which is THE Scream, or which was painted first. I suspect there is no THE Scream, they are all just A Screams.

Madchen (Madchen), Monday, 23 August 2004 04:49 (twenty-one years ago)

It was a worthy British police officer what found it, gov.

Madchen (Madchen), Monday, 23 August 2004 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)

DIdnt Munch often do various workings/versions of his paintings?

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 23 August 2004 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)

EDVARD "BUTT" MUNCH

RJG (RJG), Monday, 23 August 2004 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

where's this fellow now?

http://www.beautycafe.com/images/geir.gif

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 23 August 2004 04:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i've only seen two versions of the scream - the famous one and the woodcut version munch did (i think) before that one. is there a site out there with pictures of all of them?

hasn't the mona lisa been stolen like three times as well?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 23 August 2004 05:01 (twenty-one years ago)

and yeah, these are like my two favorite paintings ever, what a bummer.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 23 August 2004 05:02 (twenty-one years ago)

RJG, what are you doing up?

Madchen (Madchen), Monday, 23 August 2004 05:03 (twenty-one years ago)

making a really funny joke.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 23 August 2004 05:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I am drawing-------haven't been to bed.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 23 August 2004 05:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's what that guy was allegedly screaming about:

1. The explosions were heard on Rodriguez Island, 4653 km distant across the Indian Ocean, and over 1/13th of the earth's surface.

2. Ash fell on Singapore 840 km to the N, Cocos (Keeling) Island 1155 km to the SW, and ships as far as 6076 km WNW. Darkness covered the Sunda Straits from 11 a.m. onthe 27th until dawn the next day.

3. Giant waves reached heights of 40 m above sea level, devastating everything in their path and hurling ashore coral blocks weighing as much as 600 tons.

4. At least 36,417 people were killed, most by the giant sea waves, and 165 coastal villages were destroyed.

5. When the eruption ended only 1/3 of Krakatau, formerly 5x9 km, remained above sea level, and new islands of steaming pumice and ash lay to the north where the sea had been 36 m deep.

6. Every recording barograph in the world ducumented the passage of the airwave, some as many as 7 times as the wave bounced back and forth between the eruption site and its antipodes for 5 days after the explosion.

7. Tide gauges also recorded the sea wave's passage far from Krakatau. The wave "reached Aden in 12 hours, a distance of 3800 nautical miles, usually traversed by a good steamer in 12 days".

8. Blue and green suns were observed as fine ash and aerosol, erupted perhaps 50 km into the stratosphere, circled the equator in 13 days.

9. Theree months after the eruption these products had spread to higher latitudes causing such vivid red sunset afterglows that fire engines were called out in New York, Poughkeepsie, and New Haven to quench the apparent conflagration. Unusual sunsets continued for 3 years.

10. Rafts of floating pumice-locally thick enouth to support men, trees, and no doubt other biological passengers-crossed the indian Ocean in 10 months. Others reached Melanesia, and were still afloat two years after the eruption.

11. The volcanic dust veil that created such spectacular atmospheric effects also acted as a solar radiation filter, lowering global temperatures as much as 1.2 degree C in the year after the eruption. Temperatures did not return to normal until 1888.

Oh, sure, there's something about his mother and sister dying around the same time. Sounds bad, but if I had something to scream about, it would be the sky turning red from something that happened 3000 miles away. Jesus freakin' Christ!

Harold Media (kenan), Monday, 23 August 2004 05:15 (twenty-one years ago)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=72173&item=3743885728&rd=1

ken c (ken c), Monday, 23 August 2004 08:36 (twenty-one years ago)

hmm perhaps i shouldn't have bid on it

purple patch (electricsound), Monday, 23 August 2004 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)

haha!

ken c (ken c), Monday, 23 August 2004 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Meanwhile, Nabisco OTM.

Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Monday, 23 August 2004 08:45 (twenty-one years ago)

A newsreader reporting on this story called it the Munch (as in yum yum) Museum, which I thought was funny. However, stealing paintings sucks, mmmkay? The Madonna is more interesting and hasn't been appropriated by a horrible non-pub chain.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 23 August 2004 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

you only like it cos it shows boobs.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 23 August 2004 08:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i own one of the Screams, although these days i've started to suspect it's not an original..

http://www.tugboatonline.com/ilxstuff/munchy.jpg

purple patch (electricsound), Monday, 23 August 2004 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I've found it, Tottenham Court Road, hanging outside a pub. Looks genuine.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 23 August 2004 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

so, what..there's *four*?!

why is it worth 15 mill then? which is the most expensive one?

piscesboy, Monday, 23 August 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Oslo police just released a photo of their prime suspects:
http://www.americanphoto.co.jp/pages/eiga/HO/Previews/Plans-26447.jpg

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Huck, Monday, 23 August 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

The terrorists are clearly to blame

http://www.clanmdp.com.ar/images/cs_estate.jpg

chrisco (chrisco), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

If these paintings are too expensive to insure, how the bejeesus did they think they'd get away with no security whatsoever?

Madchen (Madchen), Monday, 23 August 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

They had wire!

nickn (nickn), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

the fact that they are so expensive to insure may be the reason they got away with no security whatever

ken c (ken c), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think art robbers are that bothered about insuring their paintings, are they ken?

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

oh i misread what madchen said i missed out the "think they'd" bit

ken c (ken c), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i misread "too" as "so" too.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

and i misunderstood the subject that the word "they" there was denoting.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i may as well have just dreamt what madchen said. i need to get some sleep.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050307/ap_en_ot/munch_art_theft

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 7 March 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

So the Scream is still missing too? I dont quite get priceless art theft - its not like they can sell it easily to anyone surely?

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP

Jimmy Mod Has Returned With Spices And Silks (ModJ), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe someone hires them in advance to steal the painting.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate those rich old guys who pay off thieves just so they can have some art hanging over their cavernous fireplace. Villains all.

http://www.granadakids.com/bigbang/ser4/images/photos/gareth/gareth_villain_220.jpg

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe they have one of those bond-villain secret mountain lairs on some half-deserted south pacific island and they show off their munch painting to other archvillains-- it's placed just above the shark tank.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

five years pass...

Five paintings by Picasso, Matisse and other great artists have been stolen from the Museum of Modern Art in Paris, police sources say.

The paintings stolen are estimated to be worth some 500m euros (£431m; $618m), the sources say.

They were taken overnight on Wednesday and reported missing early on Thursday, officials say.

The museum, across the Seine river from the Eiffel Tower, has been cordonned off, reports say.

The five missing paintings are said to be Le pigeon aux petits pois by Pablo Picasso, La pastorale by Henri Matisse, L'olivier pres de l'Estaque by Georges Braque, La femme a l'eventail by Amedeo Modigliani and Nature morte aux chandeliers by Fernand Leger.

Officials at the museum discovered the theft early on Thursday when they found a window and a lock had been broken, sources said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/10130840.stm

James Mitchell, Thursday, 20 May 2010 10:33 (sixteen years ago)

le d'oh

The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 20 May 2010 11:24 (sixteen years ago)

wait, it's as simple as forcing a lock?

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 May 2010 11:25 (sixteen years ago)

Stolen by someone who likes the color orange.

ljagljana (kkvgz), Thursday, 20 May 2010 11:42 (sixteen years ago)

Dutch fans getting classier this World Cup.

Jarlrmai, Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:31 (sixteen years ago)


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