They’re different, absolutely, but undeniably shared ground there. A lot of things in Tarkovsky’s book align with Malick’s MO. Would be surprised if The Mirror wasn’t an inspiration.I love them both.
― circa1916, Saturday, 10 March 2018 14:31 (six years ago) link
hbd
Interviewer: What animal would you wanna be? 😜Andrei Tarkovsky: I have a dog named Dark, bearing a human soul, that no longer respects me pic.twitter.com/L3AUS8ipvS— Eric Allen Hatch (@ericallenhatch) April 9, 2017
― flappy bird, Thursday, 4 April 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/ttV63eR.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/Q5fIQeu.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/kQRaO6g.png
many dozens more of these at: http://www.graphicine.com/andrei-tarkovskys-polaroids-instant-light
― i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 June 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link
those are amazing! there is a painting-like quality about polaroids that is unlike any other kind of film
I wonder what kind of camera made those. they don't have the nearly-square image size (or basic resolution) of standard SX-70/SX-680 integral film and they don't appear to have the 8x10 ratio of the larger polaroids.
they look like 20x24 images to me
― Dan S, Sunday, 16 June 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link
WHENNNNNN is mirror getting re-released
― flappy bird, Sunday, 16 June 2019 23:14 (four years ago) link
About 3 years ago?https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mirror-Blu-ray-Anatoli-Solonitsyn/dp/B01BFH7QT4/
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 17 June 2019 01:23 (four years ago) link
Re the Polaroids - Polaroid sold a lot of the 635 CL in Russia and the image dimensions and aesthetic seem very similar:https://www.lomography.com/magazine/192280-getting-instant-with-the-polaroid-635-cl
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 17 June 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link
also - hard to see details and may have a sticker on it:https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5a/ce/45/5ace4568c7e28a8e02750ae28ba5633a.jpg
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 17 June 2019 02:08 (four years ago) link
not looking for PAL pal
― flappy bird, Monday, 17 June 2019 04:30 (four years ago) link
Makes no difference unless you have a 20 year old TV - the blu ray is 1080p / 24p which any blu ray player can output as PAL or NTSC or (more likely) send to the TV as 24p for display at 24fps, if it's a recent or higher end TV.I'm not sure if it's zone B tho - in the US that would require a multi region bluray player.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 17 June 2019 05:59 (four years ago) link
I love those polaroids, they come up now and then on twitter its good to see a stack of them.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:40 (four years ago) link
me too.
― Shite New Answers (jed_), Monday, 17 June 2019 10:44 (four years ago) link
isn't there a book? it comes up on amazon when searching for the films
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Instant-Tarkovsky-Polaroids-Giovanni-Chiaramonte/dp/0500286140 (£120)
― koogs, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:45 (four years ago) link
(that's from 2006. there are two others, with essays, from 2012 and 2019)
― koogs, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:47 (four years ago) link
That’s a great book. It wasn’t anywhere near £120 when I bought it, must be out of print
― I am using your worlds, Monday, 17 June 2019 11:25 (four years ago) link
The book of interviews is quite good as well. I especially enjoyed the one with Irina Brezna from 1984: she directly calls him out on his archaic treatment of female figures.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 11:34 (four years ago) link
It's the one aspect of his work I've never been able to tune out.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 11:35 (four years ago) link
I have that book too. Haven't seen the ones with essays.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Monday, 17 June 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link
― flappy bird, Monday, 17 June 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link
http://www.openculture.com/2010/07/tarkovksy.html?fbclid=IwAR0Q6zqfyO9fW1IHqTtNnOXHV-eoaasZ_CCZ0FfNiee3Mjm0UNh1Pb28E2E
Stalker, Solaris, The Mirror & Andrei Rublev being streamed for free by Mosfilm on youtube.
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link
https://i.redd.it/qu6hhxwnqxa31.jpg
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link
shit, I'm getting video not available.
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link
vpn?
― ogmor, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link
that's something i don't have, if it's not a massive derail which is a good one pls?
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link
That openculture link was first posted on this thread nine years ago when it first went up, btw.
― van dyke parks generator (anagram), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link
i am no more authoritative than google. if you use opera as a browser it has one built in you can turn on.
love to see andrei dance
― ogmor, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link
opera sounds a good option
xp
lol .. well I'm there for those that missed it! just started reading Last Witnesses so might give Ivan's Childhood another whirl.
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link
yep, works a treat with Opera.
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link
probably the wrong thread for this, but I can't even get the first few pages of Last Witnesses out of my head. It's someone who was a young girl during the invasion talking about her mother's corpse being hastily chucked under some sand before she get's onto a cart loaded with other war orphans.
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link
Looks like the version of Andrei Rublev on youtube is the cut version, which omits the unpleasant killing of a horse (which was carried out for real in the shoot). The UK DVD also omits this due to UK censorship laws. I believe the US DVD is uncut.
― van dyke parks generator (anagram), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link
Oh, it is
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link
I think the film stands up fine without that horrible scene, so can't argue with that bit of censorship.
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link
I'm sure that's in the BFI version, maybe I have an earlier release or something. Anyway it's a distracting scene (you start wondering if it's as real as it looks and then you're out of the world of the film), so good riddance to it.
― crumhorn invasion (Matt #2), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link
another thing is the bit in Ivan's Childhood showing real footage of Goebbels' dead kids is something I can understand in the context of the time, but there is no question that it is absolutely gratuitous and vile as well to say the least.
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link
Good piece:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/02/15/the-drenching-richness-of-andrei-tarkovsky
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 15:10 (three years ago) link
As far as the issue of misogyny is concerned – the biggest sticking point in my appreciation of his work – I remember flipping through an English-language volume of Interviews that features a combative encounter with Irena Brežná, who takes him to task in very direct terms. At one point, he shifts the blame from men to 'the Lord', which is such a characteristically patriarchal gesture that I couldn't help but laugh at Ross trying to wrest Tarkovsky away from the clutches of the reactionary, imperialist Russian Orthodox forces that view him as their champion. Yes, Tarkovsky was akin to Dostoevsky in that his unflagging commitment to art attenuated the most backward-looking of his political stances, but his films so clearly aspire towards theological transcendence that his self-described agnosticism is hardly the automatic saving grace Ross makes it out to be.
Anyway, Tarkovsky has left an indelible mark on me, and there is no cinematic oeuvre I value more, but I don't know if I could still subject myself to, say, the bits of Nostalghia where the Italian translator's 'hysterical' unhappiness is revealed to stem from her refusal to be a God-fearing housewife and mother. The Mirror is perhaps the only film of his that treats its female characters with genuine respect yet the mother as (false) exception to one's shameless sexism is a classic trope in and of itself. I also think Ross sells Solaris a bit short: the 'return of the repressed' embodied by the living ghost of Natalya Bondarchuk points towards a kind of self-subversive guilt on the male protagonist's part.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 15:48 (three years ago) link
I really liked that Alex Ross piece, wouldn't mind more film writing from him.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 26 February 2021 20:02 (three years ago) link
Mirror gets Criterioned.
https://www.criterion.com/films/28894-mirror
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:14 (three years ago) link
Saw something about fiftieth anniversary of the premiere of Solaris.
― Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 13:44 (two years ago) link
I'll have to drive aimlessly on the freeway for 50 minutes in commemoration.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 15:09 (two years ago) link
I’m going to stare at some algae drifting in my pond for this afternoon
― snarl self own (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 16:05 (two years ago) link
gonna go see solaris tomorrow at the IFC
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 16:20 (two years ago) link
Ah fuuuuuuuuck really? Is it on widescreen (SovScope!)
― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:58 (two years ago) link
https://www.ifccenter.com/films/solaris/
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 22:30 (two years ago) link
never saw it before! or the remake for that matter. i hear soylent green is people.
Mods!
― Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 23:32 (two years ago) link
Anyone else read the book review/profile of Stanisław Lem in a recent New Yorker? Interesting life.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 23:52 (two years ago) link
I want to, before I die, see both Solaris (the original) and Andrei Rublev on a widescreen. From what I have read they were both filmed in 180 mm.
― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 10 February 2022 00:07 (two years ago) link
xp That Lem profile was fascinating. I've only read his Futurological Congress and a few short stories (have only seen the movie of Solaris), but I've been meaning to dig deeper. Lots of science fiction gets called mind-bending, but no other book has bent my mind or made me laugh as hard as The Futurological Congress
― J. Sam, Thursday, 10 February 2022 01:26 (two years ago) link
i read the lem profile as well, promptly bought a book that is now somewhere in the middle of the pile
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 February 2022 02:11 (two years ago) link