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This is almost as funny as the show itself:

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/?040920ta_talk_radosh

roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 20 September 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

while Borat has claimed that “in Kazakhstan the favorite hobbies are disco dancing, archery, rape, and table tennis,” Vassilenko concedes only the first and the last. Archery is “not prominent.”

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 20 September 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Borat is not really like someone from Kazakhstan? I don't know what to believe anymore.

Cohen must be loving this though.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 20 September 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I have CAN's "I Want More" stuck in my head but all the lyrics have changed to "Disco dancing, table tennis" ad infinitum, god help me.

TOMBOT, Monday, 20 September 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Another horseback sport is called something like Catch a—what is name?—Catch a Bride. And that is that a group of young guys race to get a bride, and she races away from them and they have to catch her while she fends them off with a whip.

HA HA!

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 20 September 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

as noted in the other Ali G vs Borat thread, you can see how hard it is for the New Yorker writer to keep a straight face during all this.

Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Monday, 20 September 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahhahahahahhahahahahahaha.

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

the anti defamation league condemn him saying 'the irony may be lost on some of the audience'

!!! brilliant!

can you sue artists for not making ironic jokes clearly ironic enough?

johnathon swift would have seen the funny side.

piscesboy, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
http://www.hillnews.com/news/072904/alig.aspx

Borat annoying a southern congressional candidate by asking what happens to jews when they die...

Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 04:51 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
Ali G star escapes 'lynching' over hoax
(Filed: 13/01/2005)

Ali G star Sasha Baron Cohen has been escorted from an American rodeo after infuriating a crowd by claiming that President Bush drinks blood and singing a mangled version of the American national anthem.



Cohen, posing as his Kazakhstani journalist character Borat, convinced rodeo organisers in Salem, Virginia, that he was filming a documentary about America.

He told them he supported the war on terrorism and said: "I hope you kill every man, woman and child in Iraq, down to the lizards. And may George W Bush drink the blood of every man, woman and child in Iraq."

Then he asked if he could show his appreciation by singing the Star Spangled Banner. His version ended with the words "your home is the grave".

"If he had been out there a minute longer, I think someone would have shot him," said local Robynn Jaymes.

Cohen's rendition of the national anthem was booed by the crowd.

Rodeo organisers, realising they had been hoaxed, had Cohen escorted from the site.

Cohen's hit television programme, Da Ali G Show, became a hit on US TV last year.

Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 13 January 2005 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Borat's annoyingness eclipses any funniness for me

Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 13 January 2005 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

He's more impersonating my Brother-in-law. Who's turkish...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 13 January 2005 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"your home is the grave"
OMG!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 13 January 2005 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i liked this write-up better:
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/16655.html


Sunday, January 09, 2005

Rodeo in Salem gets unexpected song rendition
A man purportedly from Kazakhstan launched into a diatribe instead of "The Star-Spangled Banner."

by Laurence Hammack
981-3239
The Roanoke Times

No one knows for sure who he was, that Middle Eastern man in an American flag shirt and a cowboy hat who was supposed to sing the national anthem at a rodeo Friday night in the Salem Civic Center.

But he sure shook up this town before leaving in a hurry.

Introduced as Boraq Sagdiyev from Kazakhstan, he was said to be an immigrant touring America. A film crew was with him, doing some sort of documentary. And he wanted to sing "The Star-Spangled Banner" to show his appreciation, the announcer told the crowd...

[...]

"...And may George W. Bush drink the blood of every man, woman and child in Iraq," he continued, according to Robynn Jaymes, who co-hosts a morning radio show with Sharp and was also among the stunned observers.

[...]

Once the film crew members and their star realized the severity of the situation, Bobby Rowe said, "they loaded up the van and they screeched out of there..."

mainly due to how he's treated as just some random guy from kazakhstan until the end of the article, when his identity is finally revealed.

kingfish (Kingfish), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Basically, the same exact skit as when Borat did "Throw The Jew Down The Well". He probably thought they would react as positively as the first crowd of cowboys.

Milton, Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

this is right by my hometown. i've been to many rodeos and monster truck rallies at the salem civic center! and i used to write for the roanoke times. so weird.

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
White House now plans to lose Borat-Kazakhstan war

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

kenan beat you to that one:
Larry Charles to direct Borat movie

Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:16 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Borat is dead

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 December 2007 01:23 (eighteen years ago)

My bro-in-law is in the other room freaking about this right now!

tehresa, Saturday, 22 December 2007 02:40 (eighteen years ago)

What, did he lose his role model?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 December 2007 02:41 (eighteen years ago)

"It's hawd verk being still alive and being so sexy"

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/10/31/bruno_narrowweb__300x371,0.jpg

Mackro Mackro, Saturday, 22 December 2007 03:02 (eighteen years ago)

four years pass...

LOL oh dear. see site for video evidence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17491344#TWEET112446

Kazakh gold medallist is played Borat anthem in Kuwait

Maria Dmitrienko was baffled by the Borat anthem: courtesy Kuwait Sport 2Continue reading the main story
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Kazakhstan's shooting team has been left stunned after a comedy national anthem from the film Borat was played at a medal ceremony at championships in Kuwait instead of the real one.

The team asked for an apology and the medal ceremony was later rerun.

The team's coach told Kazakh media the organisers had downloaded the parody from the internet by mistake.

The song was produced by UK comedian Sacha Baron Cohen for the film, which shows Kazakhs as backward and bigoted.

Footage of Thursday's original ceremony posted on YouTube shows gold medallist Maria Dmitrienko listening to the anthem without emotion and finally smiling as it ends.

The original Borat movie offended the Kazakh authorities
Coach Anvar Yunusmetov told Kazakh news agency Tengrinews that the tournament's organisers had also got the Serbian national anthem wrong.

"Then Maria Dmitrienko's turn came," he said. "She got up on to the pedestal and they played a completely different anthem, offensive to Kazakhstan."

The film Borat, released in 2006, follows Baron Cohen's character, the journalist Borat Sagdiyev, as he travels to the US and pursues the actress Pamela Anderson.

The film outraged people in Kazakhstan and was eventually banned in the country. The government also threatened Baron Cohen with legal action.

Reports say the film is also banned in Kuwait.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Friday, 23 March 2012 18:04 (fourteen years ago)

Um, that's hilarious.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:14 (fourteen years ago)

not really

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:17 (fourteen years ago)

humiliating hapless athletes with racist bullshit during what's supposed to be their moment of glory = what a kneeslapper

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:18 (fourteen years ago)

It's hilarious insofar as that I can't believe it actually happened. Calm down.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:20 (fourteen years ago)

sorry I just hate this guy

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:21 (fourteen years ago)

I saw the trailer for that stupid movie this weekend, a thousand times ugh

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:30 (fourteen years ago)

I meant 'that stupid new movie"

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:30 (fourteen years ago)

its hilarious

lag∞n, Friday, 23 March 2012 23:32 (fourteen years ago)

poor hapless athletes

lag∞n, Friday, 23 March 2012 23:33 (fourteen years ago)

moment of glory tarnished

lag∞n, Friday, 23 March 2012 23:33 (fourteen years ago)

lol shakey its obv hilarious

Lamp, Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:05 (fourteen years ago)

it's funny that it happened but kuwait are clearly assholes

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:44 (fourteen years ago)

my main gripe with Borat is that his shock humor is mostly unfunny. and shock humor is mostly unfunny in general (not to be confused with absurdist humor). I picture shock humor guys as the kind of dudes that get kicks out of linking to pictures of EXTREME gore or diarrhea in chatrooms (and collect extreme pics on 4chan). how they do not get tired of such pictures is beyond me

maybe this isn't the right thread for me to start this gripe

whispering fairy tales (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 24 March 2012 02:06 (fourteen years ago)

I don't think borat was really shock humor, for the most part.

s.clover, Saturday, 24 March 2012 02:13 (fourteen years ago)

well I guess people are getting desensitized or are already desensitized these days

whispering fairy tales (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 24 March 2012 02:16 (fourteen years ago)

i don't really get how borat isn't widely seen as massively racist

lex pretend, Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:12 (fourteen years ago)

Yep. The only defence i've seen is that the humour is derived from the reactions of people who think that an absurdly racist caricature represents what Kazakh people are actually like, but that's transparently not the case for much of his output - unless it's the audience itself that is being called out on its prejudice.

The chances of any Kazakh kid at a UK or US school not getting called 'Borat' for the next ten years are minimal. It's already come up in a couple of industrial tribunals where abusive employers have been using the name to address Bulgarian and Polish workers. Irrespective of the intention (which, to me, seems overwhelmingly malign) the character is being used by racists to attack immigrants.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:52 (fourteen years ago)

poe's law

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 25 March 2012 01:43 (fourteen years ago)

some sort of twisted variant on it, anyway--you can never create an ostensibly anti-racist caricature that can't, in turn, be detourned by fascists to be a tool of racist

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 25 March 2012 01:44 (fourteen years ago)

*racism

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 25 March 2012 01:44 (fourteen years ago)

^ just a proposition that occurred to me to suggest, hardly suggesting it as my own line of thinking

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 25 March 2012 01:45 (fourteen years ago)

i don't really get how borat isn't widely seen as massively racist

obviously ironic use of a "comical ethic stereotype" that doesn't register on many people's minority protection radar in order to highlight and expose real antisemitism and other bigotry. that's the justification, anyway. i suppose it's a potentially valid goal, if you accept it at face value (not talking about the method, just the ostensible intent), but it also seems like a complex excuse for some old-fashioned ethnic mockery. bruno works the same way: crassly indulge a blatant stereotype to draw out the homophobia of others. both are suspect, but carried by baron cohen's charm, his humor, and the apparent decency of his aims.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Sunday, 25 March 2012 02:21 (fourteen years ago)

eight years pass...

https://collider.com/borat-2-sequel-sacha-baron-cohen/

pomenitul, Thursday, 10 September 2020 22:06 (five years ago)

do people still like this prick enough for this to work, I was hoping he was generally agreed to be over

00s liberal comedy esp UK just an absolute hellzone of smug sneery pseudo subversive crypto conservative back patting wankery. I can’t even watch the stuff I thought was good at the time (office 1, peep show) because the general tenor of that whole comedy/media phenomenon is so nasty & pervasive & stifling

if this guy isn’t quite as blatantly pure reaction & minstrelsy in liberal clothing compared to say little britain he’s close enough to be buried in the same chamber, any additional satire is so tame & loses out to the thrill of laughing at the funny foreigner (/other ‘other’) saying or getting provincials to say these un-PC things. none of these people are us- we appreciate jew jokes on a higher level than those bigots, we know how to put our racism in quotation marks

are we at a place yet as a culture where we can just call Ali G fucking racist (supposed whitemiddleclassness of character is either irrelevant or the point), without being shouted down by the comedy defence league? I’m not sure. but I’m pretty sure we could have been spared Bo! Selecta if it wasn’t for this dickhead’s efforts

... (Left), Friday, 11 September 2020 00:23 (five years ago)

Zzzzzz

rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Friday, 11 September 2020 01:52 (five years ago)

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzFHMhsTdf0

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 1 October 2020 20:44 (five years ago)

All in, much more than before.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 October 2020 23:41 (five years ago)


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