buffy the musical - classic or dud?

when does series 6 start showing over here anyway? the trailer for the next episode at the end of the musical one looked pretty damn essential...

Episode: absolutely not dud, not at all. Big things happen, though having the context of this quickly moving season of Buffy makes that more evident. Oral sex reference among the most scandalous things I've ever seen in the bowdlerized world of American broadcast television.

Sky = January. God knows what will happen at my house, as my digital TV receiver only works in the shared figurative kitchen. Better get my shshing finger ready.

I'm still surprised they got away with that, actually. But I think UPN (Buffy's new network in the States) lets them get away with a lot more sex and violence than before. Tonight's episode has kind of a porn ending, but that's all I'm sayin', other than that it was the only cruddy episode of the season thus far.

I liked the musical episode a lot. If you see it in the context of the rest of the season 6, there's more plot to it than you might think upon a casual viewing.

Sarah, my home computer has been all krunked up the past week, but I should have it sorted out by the weekend to make you the cd. I could dub you a version of the episode on tape, but since I don't have pal format I don't know if that would do much good. But if NTSC would do fine, lemme know.

(Marianna - I have ALL seasons DVDs on my amazon wish list - I don't have a DVD player either!!! BUT DAMMIT I WILL ahem yasss...)

I've just noticed toby's complaint about lack of plot. I thought the point of the songs is that they recap and explore exactly how every character feels, some of the lyric are k-amazing. The demon plot is very weak I agree, but its a major turning point for the character plots.

Hopefully the rest of the season will pick back up. I mean the last three episodes of Angel have been terrific, and that went through a similar mid-season slump.

i've got the tapes if you've got the living room.

When Dawn says "Don't worry I know about his stuff...lesbians...It's all kinda romantic", is the thesbians bit really muffled? It's pretty much inaudible on my copy. And towards the end when Spike storms out of the magic shop, does he say "You, and your little bit"?

Also, I'd like to warn people of the dangers of listening to the Anya/Xander song on a walkman in public places.

[And am I invited to your buffyfeast, Ms C?]

I saw the very end of the season finale and was very surprised, somehow I never saw that part of it in the spring. I also saw the part where xander saves willow with love (ha ha ha ha) and it came off much better than the first time around. not that that episode was my favorite at all.

I must say, though, that I love the geeks as characters. Especially if you read the entirety of Buffy as this confidence-building and self-management parable: their transformation from amusing annoyance to evil potential was well-handled.

NB: at what point was Jonathan introduced to the show? Pardon me for being google-lazy, but I seem to remember a season 5 (?) episode in which, as a lone dork, he reconfigured the universe to make himself the coolest thing in it. Does he predate that? Do the other geeks?

In any case, their story -- sort of of the potential for humans to do evil through basically mismanagement of their desires -- was probably the best example of it in a season chock-full of it (Buffy's inner-darkness, Willow and magic, etc.)

NB: at what point was Jonathan introduced to the show? Pardon me for being google-lazy, but I seem to remember a season 5 (?) episode in which, as a lone dork, he reconfigured the universe to make himself the coolest thing in it. Does he predate that? Do the other geeks?

Jonathan has been around (in the backround) since the beginning, but the first time he got a real story was in season three where he was feeling alienated and wanted to go all Columbine on Sunnydale High (tho' this was pre-Columbine). Warren was the one who built the robot girlfriend and then made the Buffybot for Spike. The other geek was a brother or cousin of another geek who had been on the show, I think.

toby, I think that somehow the saving-with-love thing works better because it seems so pitifully weak most of the time, compared to lots of other things in the show, so there's a big jump when it comes to the fore. somehow I associate the thing in season 4 or 5 (?) where they killed adam with this, because xander's part in it really did seem important once buffy became all super freaky.

(On a side note, I think I've finally identified one big reason I'm not much seduced by the TV series -- these days, at least, I really don't want to think about high school! Or undergrad days really -- not that I hated them much or anything, but I'm terribly disconnected from it all now. I realize that the setting is not in and of itself the total point of what's going on with the characters or series, but still... This will take more thought on my part to develop into a cohesive meditation, if it ever comes together.)