Does experience count in making policy on war? Do We See A Pattern Here?DemocratsRichard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan.1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor,Vietnam.Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, BronzeStar with Combat V, Purple Hearts.Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; BronzeStar, Korea.Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star &Bronze Star, Vietnam.Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve,1968-74.Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, ArmyReserve 1979-91.Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Starand seven campaign ribbons.Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam,DFCs, Bronze Stars, and Soldier's Medal.Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart,Silver Star and Legion of Merit.Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne,Purple Heart.Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V.Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57Chuck Robb: VietnamHowell Heflin: Silver StarGeorge McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments.Entered draft but received #311.Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medalwith 18 Clusters.Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII.Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.
RepublicansDick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, thelast by marriage.Dennis Hastert: did not serve.Tom Delay: did not serve.Roy Blunt: did not serve.Bill Frist: did not serve.Mitch McConnell: did not serve.Rick Santorum: did not serve.Trent Lott: did not serve.John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments toteach business.Jeb Bush: did not serve.Karl Rove: did not serve.Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The manwho attacked Max Cleland's patriotism.Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.Vin Weber: did not serve.Richard Perle: did not serve.Douglas Feith: did not serve.Eliot Abrams: did not serveRichard Shelby: did not serve.Jon Kyl: did not serveTim Hutchison: did not serve.Christopher Cox: did not serve.Newt Gingrich: did not serve.Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flightinstructor.George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-yearNational Guard; got assigned to Alabama so he couldcampaign for family friend running for U.S.Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam,disappeared from duty.Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in anon-combat role making movies.B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fightingwas over in Korea.Phil Gramm: did not serve.John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion ofMerit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.John M. McHugh: did not serve.JC Watts: did not serve.Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem," althoughcontinued in NFL for 8 years.Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana NationalGuard.Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.George Pataki: did not serve.Spencer Abraham: did not serve.John Engler: did not serve.Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base.
Pundits & PreachersSean Hannity: did not serve.Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidalcyst.')Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.Michael Savage: did not serve.George Will: did not serveChris Matthews: did not serve.Paul Gigot: did not serve.Bill Bennett: did not serve.Pat Buchanan: did not serve.John Wayne: did not serve.Bill Kristol: did not serve.Kenneth Starr: did not serve.Antonin Scalia: did not serve.Clarence Thomas: did not serve.Ralph Reed: did not serve.Michael Medved: did not serve.Charlie Daniels: did not serve.Ted Nugent: did not serve. (He only shoots at thingsthat don't shoot back.)
― briania (briania), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huk-L, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― briania (briania), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)
a real thorough version of this would be great, and would probably have a similar outcome.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)
Gives me a chuckle 'cause I've have my own patriotism occasionally questioned in this political season. Perhaps, every so often, I've been guilty of setting things up so I can drop six years Marine infantry and two combat action ribbons on 'em.
Not that military service is any guarantor of credibility. I've actually got more respect for somebody who was a conscientious objector and dealt with the consequences of that decision. I was fascinated to read that Sun Ra was a CO during WWII. Too late to vote the Heliotropic Party ticket, though.
― briania (briania), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― andy, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― briania (briania), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)
Fred Rogers had over 100 confirmed kills as a sniper in Korea.
― andy, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― briania (briania), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― andy, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― briania (briania), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― briania (briania), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl-mr-rogers.htm
http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/mrrogers.asp
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― briania (briania), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)
*This fact is most certainly less than factual. In fact I made it up, just like Ann Coulter does in her books and articles. I'm still prettier than her though.
― Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― andy, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)
LOOK OUT HE'S GOT A SHOE!
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― identity theftor (deangulberry), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― andy, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gribowitz (Lynskey), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― the apex of nadirs (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― zappi (joni), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jo.bhosle/pictures/moranis.jpg
― zappi (joni), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― identity theftor (deangulberry), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― briania (briania), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)