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I mean, literally suggest something. I need some cheering up.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, man. Are you kidding?

just a few:

Empanadas at Taco Bell
Cocaine
John Frusciante albums
Road trips
David Sedaris books
BBQ
baby harp seals

cheer up Nowell

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Kerry beating Bush next week.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Love.
Orgasms.
Thunderstorms.
Bass players.
Kids.
Walking in the rain.
Fat puppy tummies.
black lacy underwear.
wearing big sweaters in winter.
Ugg boots.
Otter pops.
Rubber ducks.
New Orleans.
Iced Mochas.
bubble baths.
Books.
Movies.
Music.
Cheeseburgers.
fireworks.
champagne.
roadtrips.
rollercoasters.
the nights leading up to Christmas when all the lights are lit up and it's cold outside.
"Where The Wild Things Are".
Pretty girls.
Pretty boys.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not kidding! I just feel very shitty today. I see all these kids in school around me having a good time or whatever, and I'm just so shy and afraid of being rejected, I don't say a goddamn thing. Also, because some of them have made snide remarks about me and....fucking a.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, there's been a lot of thunderstorms here lately. But they don't really make me happy.

I've never had an orgasm before. I wonder about them, though...

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

MAN! I feel shitty.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Porno for Pyros to thread

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

no wonder you think there is nothing to live for. have an orgasm for christ's sake.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Nowell, not to be mean, but there is an entire world outside of high school populated by billions of people. Find something you feel really passionate about, don't worry about things like sex until you feel emotionally ready. When I was your age I loved poetry and punk music and bad horror movies and Chopin and playstation and my friends. Don't get so cynical so young, because you'll grow older and realize there are much much worse things to deal with than being a normal teenager.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

What is there to live for?

Well, for not dying. Death is certainly less pleasant being that you won't enjoy anything any more. Live for life. (cue orchestra)

This message brought to you by:
Champagne
Chocolate
Salmon Caviar
Pills-A-Go-Go
La Superica
Rockford Files re-runs
Flannel and fleece in winter
The way the light looks in the Fall at the last hour before sunset
The internet
The possibility that in the same way that something completely horrible, like space junk falling on your head is less likely than something unexpectedly good, like cooking the perfect omelette, will happen to you.
Paris.
Thinking about Paris.
Eating as if you are in Paris.

― Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry for that Ann Landers moment.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, it'll get better. no one is lying about that. high school is probably the worst thing that can happen to a person.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Things I live for:
My mom and my two brothers and, maybe, my half brother, too.
Thinking about all the CDs and books I'm gonna buy when I get the money (I haven't bought half of 'em).
Christmas.
Cats.
The past.
Music.

Things that make me wanna die:
The fucked up situation my family is in. (We're separated, and I don't really wanna explain that or any other part of it.)
My foster mother.
High school.
CPS.
Stupid people.

That's all I can think of, for now.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh! I also love food. But I HATE gaining weight. And I'm not too fond of exercising either. But I like walking. And swimming, which is great, since I live on Kauai.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

CPS does suck, but they will go away eventually.
Bury yourself in music and books; you will find friends with like minds.

― Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

The fact that you can choose NOT to read David Sedaris or listen to John Frusciante.

Halloumi cheese

― adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Kauai's the 'Garden Isle', right?

― Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

and (UK) garage music.

― adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

That's no fun.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

ROYAL TRUX!

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Nowell - obviously something is upsetting you recently, but unfortunately talking about/solving that problem isn't something the internet is very good for. Your teachers (the nice ones, and I'm sure there are some) will be more then happy to talk, as I'm sure will you mum. Most teenagers get depressed, it really does get easier if you share your problems. Now that I've finished being guidance councillor, I can highly recommend meaningless afternoon chats with friends and a few beers, some good records etc. as a thing to live for. If that seems unattainable now, it won't be forever. Oh, and Sonic Youth,

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

the library
reading books
doing math problems
n01z3
makeouts
makeouts in libraries
sex
boyfriends
sleeping
running
puppies, kittens, babies, rainbows, sunshine
getting really fucking smart
the internet

DON'T GIVE UP

xpost yeah free will is most excellent.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I barely get to talk to my mom (over the phone for 15 minutes, and when I see her on Fridays), and while there are some nice teachers, I just don't like talking to them. Cuz..they're teachers, you know?

I guess that PART of the reason that I'm asking for advice is cuz usually someone says something funny that mildly cheers me up.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

chicken butt

― Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

meaningless afternoon chats with friends and a few beers, some good records etc.

As banal as it is, that sounds really good right now!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe you should see a psychologist?

xpost

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah. I don't get to drink beer, though. I used to hate the taste, but I think I'd like it now.
I ALMOST had sexy with this one guy, my brother's friend...well, not really.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I've seen plenty of psychologists, against my will. I'm through with psychology and therapy.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

xxxxpost

horse walks into a bar

bartender says

"why the long face?"

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah psychologists are not for everyone!

XPOST

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree. Word. Right on. Definitely. You're OTM.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

well if "chicken butt" didn't make you laugh I give up...

― Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

As banal as it is, that sounds really good right now!

Hey! My pleasures are not banal!

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Are they anal?

― Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"I ALMOST had sexy"
This is really great if you read it in the voice of Borat.

Cheer up, Nowell. Everyone gets down sometimes.

― From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Moi?

― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Another that I hate:
Having to go home to my foster mom. Which I have to every fucking day.
Except on the weekend.

Another thing I like:
Nice people.
'South Park'.

A thing I neither love nor hate:
Really artsy, thought-provoking "cool" movies.
When I start thinking about sexy.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry Kevin, couldn't resist the pun on (b)anal. Nowell if you don't laugh I will be forced to make more bad puns.

― Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

nowell how old are you?

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

xx post
I mean, when I start thinking about sex.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Are they anal?

Well, everyone has to sit in the right place, up straight, and use a coaster. (no need to apologise)

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

xxx post
I thought someone would answer this for me.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you want me to? She's 15, caitlin.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Thank you.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Another thing I hate:
Feeling isolated.

Another thing I like:
Free money.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Hi Nowell - is there a school psychologist or guidance counselor? I felt like I was too shy to go to one at your age, but now I wish I had, because I realize that they're much more understanding and helpful than I thought they were back then. And lots of "normal" people go to see them (as if anyone is really normal ;-)

X-Post, now I see that you haven't had success with them.

Is it possible you'd think it was more helpful if you were going of your own free will? Remember you're the boss - their job is to help you.

― wetmink (wetmink), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Gotcha.

I can't decide who I hate more - mean girls or mean boys.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

And I hate prudes!

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah keep it (the psychologist) in mind, it works for some people. i think some day you will be glad you didn't fit in with everyone at your school. they're probably pretty fucking lame.
xpost

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

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goose-stepping while drunk
being rude to random stranger

outstanding.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Cheerios.
Pencils.

― 57 7th (calstars), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

oh oh oh
House of Tsang Bangkok Padang Peanut Sauce

― lemin (lemin), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

- the reality that someday -- hopefully sooner than later -- George W. Bush will NO LONGER be the president.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I just got back on.
And Caitlin is almost right - I'm on a computer at school. But not at the library.
I feel a little better now. I got into a slight altercation with a teacher - don't know if I'm using that word right - about forty minutes ago. I turned in a project we had to do, and she basically said it wasn't good enough. I was already in a really shitty mood, so that kinda pushed me over the brink - I actually started to cry. In front of everybody. She got annoyed and told me to go outside and take a breather. I did, then I did our test and improved on my project. She said, "See, that's all I wanted you to do." And I told her that it wasn't her yelling at me that made me cry, I said that I was already upset about something else, and she understood. Then she told me that I could go see her anytime. She's pretty cool. When she's nice, she's really nice. When she's mean, she's really mean.

I know this sounds cheesy. But it's real life, man! Even if I am just a teenager, who are generally looked upon with disdain. TV and movies ruined everything with all those stupid shows about teenagers.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

What is there to hate about Bush? Not that I like him - I just don't know anything about politics.

I've noticed a lot that Republicans protect rich people. And conservatives and Christians and rednecks. But my opinion is pretty uninformed.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Nowell, this is not an episode that should make you question the validity of life. A shitty day. Everyone has them. Dust yourself off and carry on.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

It is and it isn't, sweetie pie. It is and it isn't.

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah. I have a few things to look forward to. I guess I worry too much. About the future. And I sometimes just think that my life is never gonna change. And I worry about my biological mother. I miss her a lot. We have different views, but people seem to treat us very similarly....that's not a word, is it?

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

One thing I look forward to: Seeing my first concert! It's gotta happen someday.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

And Halloween.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Live for all the things you don't know are going to happen yet.

The longer I live the more astounded I am by things happening I never thought would.

― papa november (papa november), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

There is nothing to live for. Therefore: live for everything.

― ryan (ryan), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel like nothing amazing is never gonna happen.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah but the thing is, it might! and if you kill yourself, you'll never know.

― papa november (papa november), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, I don't have the guts to kill myself. I tried to, once. But it was an extremely half-hearted attempt.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel like nothing amazing is never gonna happen.

Double negative. But an accurate one....amazing things will happen. Just recognize them when they do.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

What amazing/exciting things have happened to YOU?

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

For a start, Nowell, how old are you?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Fifteen.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Dammit, I gotta go.

― Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Nowell, you're only fifteen.....you have your whole life ahead of you. Your life has barely started. Look forward to the future. Don't dread it.

...but don't listen to bad music.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Or Alex will come and GET YOU...

― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

not being fifteen was something I lived for when I was fifteen.

now: friends, fun, love, food, hobbies, curiousity, surprises, songs.

― Cathy (Cathy), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Love, hope, possibility, music, laughter. And yourself.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

What's there to live for?
Who needs the peace corps?

Think I'll just DROP OUT
I'll go to Frisco
Buy a wig sleep
On Owsley's floor

Walked past the wig store
Danced at the Fillmore
I'm completely stoned
I'm hippy I'm trippy
I'm a gypsy on my own
I'll stay a week get the crabs
Take a bus back home
I'm really just a phony
But forgive me
'Cause I'm stoned

Every town must have a place
Where phony hippies meet
Psychedelic dungeons
Popping up every street
GO TO SAN FRANCISCO

How I love ya, How I love ya
How I love ya, How I love ya Frisco!
How I love ya, How I love ya
How I love ya, How I love ya
Oh, my hair is getting good in the back! Every town must have a place
Where phony hippies meet
Psychedelic dungeons
Popping up on every street
GO TO SAN FRANCISCO...

Hotcha!

First I'll buy some beads
And then perhaps a leather band
To go around my head
Some feathers and bells
And a book of Indian lure
I will ask the Chamber Of Commerce
How to get to Height Street
And smoke an awful lot of dope

I will wander around barefoot
I will have a psychedelic gleam in my eye at all times
I will love everyone
I will love the police as they kick the shit out of me on the street
I will sleep...
I will, I will go to a house
That's, that's what I will do
I will go to a house
Where there's a rock roll band
'Cause the groups all live together
And I will join a rock roll band
I will be their road manager
And I will stay there with them
And I will get the crabs
But I won't care

― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I love that album.

Nowell, one day soon you'll be less confused and angry. Promise. 'Til then, find one small thing each day that you can rely on for a smile or a giggle. A song or a book or a coffee or a soup. (I like that thick potato kind with maybe a little bacon in it.)

Also, be happy that so many people on this board care about cheering you up.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 29 October 2004 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, that song was in my head when I first saw this thread, Andrew.

― Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 29 October 2004 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Rickey's last point is a VERY good one - there are good people around. They are the best thing to live for - for me, that's the friends I've had for decades, one since I was younger than you (and I am three times your age now), the new friends I have made here who are just as wonderful as the old friends (but I've known them a tenth as long). Love and romance and sex are wonderful too, and I don't doubt will come to you in time. On top of that there is music, books, TV, movies, comics, art and sport to entertain you while you are waiting.

Trouble is, you may be suffering from depression in the medical sense. I can't know, and the distinction between teenage misery and alienation and clinical depression is a tricky one at the best of times, and obviously impossible to guess at from a few posts online. I mention this because I've been suffering from it for years now, and one of the effects when it is bad is what they call anhedonia, the inability to get pleasure from anything. Add the insecurity and low self-esteem and the feelings of hopelessness and despair, and reasons to live are hard to come by. I have no idea if this applies to you, but the advice to talk to a school counsellor or sympathetic teacher is good, I think.

Good luck.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 29 October 2004 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

"I feel for you, you little horror
Safe at your mother's breast
No lucky break for you around the corner
'Cause your father is a bully
And he thinks that you're a pest
And your sister she's no better than a whore.

Life seems so rosy in the cradle,
But I'll be a friend I'll tell you what's in store
There's nothing at the end of the rainbow.
There's nothing to grow up for anymore.

Tycoons and barrow boys will rob you
And throw you on the side
And all because they love themselves sincerely
And the man holds a breadknife
Up to your throat, it's four feet wide
And he's anxious just to show you what it's for.

Your mother works so hard to make you happy
But take a look outside the nursery door
There's nothing at the end of the rainbow.
There's nothing to grow up for anymore.

And all the sad and empty faces
That pass you on the street
All running in their sleep, all in a dream
Every loving handshake
Is just another man to beat
How your heart aches just to cut him to the core.

Life seems so rosy in the cradle,
But I'll be a friend I'll tell you what's in store
There's nothing at the end of the rainbow.
There's nothing to grow up for anymore."

― Richard Thompson (pp), Friday, 29 October 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

What're the quoted songs? Also, I live for schadenfreude and not much else.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Friday, 29 October 2004 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Nowell its cheesy but its true, you only get from life what you put in. The world is a splendid place with many more vertues than problems, have an open mind, love in your heart and a belief in yourself and things will come togeather.

― lukey (Lukey G), Friday, 29 October 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

See if you can get a gig volunteering (or better yet, paying) at an animal rescue, or music school .. or someplace that interests you.. It'll give you a chance to do something productive and at the same time you'll be around more mature people who will value your good attributes, rather than pointing out your weaknesses.

― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 29 October 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

pyjamas.

― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 29 October 2004 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Being thirty is pretty cool - look forward to that!

Do you spend time on any internet forums devoted to teenagers, Nowell? They might be lame but getting life tips from ILX could warp your worldview a bit if you don't balance it out.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 29 October 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Better yet get off the internet altogether.

"Was I the only one to know
That she'd been letting go
Accept your mind and your body lives
She had nothing left to give

Need you to fall back on to
Need me more than I need you
Easy to be just like you like you
I've lost my faith in all things good
Just like mother said I would
You'll be left there on the shelf
Can't save someone from themselves"

― Kiwi, Friday, 29 October 2004 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel better today. I think.
How would ILX warp my world view, or whatever you said?

― Nowell (Nowell), Friday, 29 October 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, whatever one of you said.

― Nowell (Nowell), Friday, 29 October 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm having a good time listening to music on this computer, looking forward to visiting my bio-mother, and just thinking of the future. However, I have to leave in about half a minute. But I'll be back. JUST SAYING.

― Nowell (Nowell), Friday, 29 October 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Drive yourself right up the wall
No one hears and no one calls
It's a boring state
It's a useless wait, I know
Brag about things you don't understand
A girl and a woman, a boy and a man
Everything is sexually vague
Now you're wondering to yourself
If you might be gay
Your age is the hardest age
Everything drags and drags
One day, baby, maybe help you through
Sixteen blue
Sixteen blue
Drive your ma to the bank
Tell your pa you got a date
You're lying, now you're lying on your back
Try to figure out, they wonder what next you'll pull
You don't understand anything sexual
I don't understand
Tell my friends I'm doing fine

Your age is the hardest age
Everything drags and drags
You're looking funny
You ain't laughing, are you?
Sixteen blue
Sixteen blue

"Sixteen Blue" - The Replacements

― nickn (nickn), Saturday, 30 October 2004 04:25 (twenty-one years ago)

teenage angst is the worst. twenties angst is more about missing your programmes on a monday night sometimes.

we should have a thread to rejoice that we're not teenagers anymore. hang in there for a few years, it gets better. and you won't always define yourself by your family situation, we all stop doing that when we move out. at 17, if you can get away with it.

― d.arraghmac, Saturday, 30 October 2004 04:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Nowell, we've got an average age of probably 28, 29 or so. You are a kid. There are reasons that, by and large, kids hang around with other kids and adults with adults. Our breadth of life experience is different; we react differently, our priorities are different. This will confuse you and it will bore you. So what I'm saying is by all means, hang around, read, chat (though NOT just about yourself is probably a good move), but make sure you concentrate your life on your own sphere of reference.

― Markelby (Mark C), Saturday, 30 October 2004 10:51 (twenty-one years ago)

This is all true, but we shouldn't overstate the importance of age gaps, and there are people here of younger age than the average you mention - the people whose company I most enjoyed and appreciated on Thursday night, for instance, certainly included Sarah, Lixi, Ken and Cis, all more than 20 years my juniour (and I think the man who DJed straight after my set, Matt DC, might be over 20 years younger than me as well, but I'm not sure about that). Cis and William Swygart only left their teens a few months ago.

Your point about life experience is true - I've obviously had much more of that in many ways than the people I mention there, but I've always found them all very easy to get on with, without that being any problem at all. Everyone has different experiences, whatever their age.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 30 October 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

knowing
that there are women like her
that there are friends like him
that there are times, there are places like that
that there are songs like this
that there are things yet to be known
not knowing
what is to come?

― oops (Oops), Saturday, 30 October 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey Nowell--having been a pretty unhappy 15-year-old myself, I can tell you that there's good stuff in your future you can't even imagine right now. Because nobody knows what it is. But it's coming, and you can't make it appear any faster than it will anyway.

In the meantime: you like walking & swimming? Do a bunch of that. It makes you feel better, pretty much automatically. Love books & music? Those are great too. Especially if you start making your own. Useful thing to remember: when you write or play music for yourself, the result does not have to be good. At all. It just has to be fun to do, which it rapidly becomes if you do it for a while.

― Douglas (Douglas), Saturday, 30 October 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

http://pantransit.reptiles.org/images/1998-09-27/redpanda.jpg http://www.hsus.org/web-files/Zoo_Animals/281x144_two_red_pandas.jpg http://www.suprmchaos.com/red-pandas_102903.jpg http://www.panix.com/~teej/zoo/pics/pandafamily.jpg http://www.uga.edu/srel/Red_Pandas/smiling%20RP%204x5.jpg http://www.usfca.edu/fac-staff/dever/images/redpanda.jpg http://hoglezoo.org/whatsnew.photos/2002.dec.20-1.jpg http://www.1stoppostershop.com/products/Impact/Wildlife/im_RedPanda.jpg http://www.subreality.com/ailurus/pics/cub02.gif http://www.ccec.ece.ucsb.edu/~sara/albums/da_zoo_album/photos/panda4.jpg http://www.sincerelytonee.com/pandarco.jpg http://www.piscitella.com/newyork_082000/bronx%20zoo/red%20panda.jpg http://gator.biol.sc.edu/RS_Lab/tgc/LittleRedPandas.jpeg http://www.munro-family.me.uk/Redbabies.jpg http://www.northrup.org/Photos/Panda/low/red-panda-on-ground.jpg http://www.northrup.org/Photos/Panda/low/red-panda-eating-grass.JPG

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Saturday, 30 October 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

http://i.myspace.com/50/78/48705/83364_l.JPG

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Saturday, 30 October 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

O.T.M.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Saturday, 30 October 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.folica.com/images/uploads/R8440.gif

I must be getting old

― Kiwi, Sunday, 31 October 2004 05:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Listening to Flipper's "Generic" album one more time!

― Mr. Happy Pants, Sunday, 31 October 2004 05:30 (twenty-one years ago)

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