― m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kenan (kenan), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― briania (briania), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam... (nordicskilla), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kenan (kenan), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― still bevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)
how many in iraq - 100, 000 + ?
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)
According to Jim is a really terrible show and a waste of Courtney Thorne-Smith's infidel babe factor. "
― Huk-L, Friday, 29 October 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Affleck in NYC (deangulberry), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)
It was Karl Rove.
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)
Dear American People, Do not call your baseball The World Series - until you learn to change your ways, the threat of Al Qeada remains.
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― jimmy crackhorn, Friday, 29 October 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Affleck in NYC (deangulberry), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― still bevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)
No, those gay liberals want you to think you look sexy in a thong.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)
Do not call your baseball The World Series
"OUR" baseball?
― k3rry (dymaxia), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Affleck in NYC (deangulberry), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)
Surely the democrats could say they would double US resources to hunt Bin Laden down?
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― k3rry (dymaxia), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Miek D., Friday, 29 October 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― andy, Friday, 29 October 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)
"and the title of that children's book?...GOATSE. I'm Paul Harvey...good day."
― Paul Harvey, Friday, 29 October 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― andy, Friday, 29 October 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)
did the sales of that book go thru the roof?was the author ever interviewed or what?did it come out again in shops and such?
― piscesboy, Friday, 29 October 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― k3rry (dymaxia), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)
Reading from papers before him in a nondescript setting, Mr. Bin Laden mentions both Mr. Bush and his Democratic opponent, Senator John Kerry, and in a reference to the election on Tuesday, says, according to an translation by Al Jazeera: "Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or Al Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands."
Mr. Bin Laden also said the Bush administration resembled "corrupt" Arab governments.
"I never thought that the supreme leader would leave 50,000 of his people in the two towers to face the terrifying events alone at the time they were in need for him," he said, apparently referring to Mr. Bush and the attack on the World Trade Center towers.
He accused Mr. Bush of "misleading" the American people four years after the Sept. 11 attacks, the Al Jazeera Web site said, and added that "we decided to destroy towers in America," because "we want to regain the freedom of our nation."
The Associated Press said Mr. Bin Laden also went on to say in the videotape: "God knows that it had not occurred to our mind to attack the towers, but after our patience ran out and we saw the injustice and inflexibility of the American-Israeli alliance toward our people in Palestine and Lebanon, this came to my mind."
"To the U.S. people, my talk is to you about the best way to avoid another disaster," The A.P. reported him as saying. "I tell you, security is an important element of human life and free people do not give up their security."
He went on to say: "If Bush says we hate freedom, let him tell us why we didn't attack Sweden, for example. It is known that those who hate freedom do not have dignified souls, like those of the 19 blessed ones," he said, referring to the 19 hijackers.
"We fought you because we are free,'' he said, ""and want to regain freedom for our nation. As you undermine our security, we undermine yours."
― still bevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Affleck in NYC (deangulberry), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)
Great. Now Osama bin Laden is stealing MY arguements.
― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Affleck in NYC (deangulberry), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― still bevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)
Like two beer.
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)
پ گګۆۆںۙ George Bush ڴ ڙڡڦ ٹڂپگګ ۆۆںۙ My Pet Goatڴڙ ڡڦ ٹڂ پگګۆۆںۙڴ ڙڡڦ Dick Cheney ٹڂ پ گګۆۆںۙ ڴپگ ګۆۆںۙڴ پگګۆ ۆںۙڴڙ contemptuous cunt ڡ ڦٹڂOMG LOL! ڡ ٹڂڙڡڦٹڂ
― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)
hahahah I listened to the live album earlier today
― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 30 October 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)
I hope that the tape does not make people vote Dubya. I liked what i saw of Kerry's response.
― the bellefox, Saturday, 30 October 2004 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 30 October 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Saturday, 30 October 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/rdonlyres/973F1229-454F-4384-BF08-1D86A911DDF7/53231/Binladin.asf
― Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Saturday, 30 October 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)
Ugh. Fuck.
― MC Transmaniacon (natepatrin), Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 30 October 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Saturday, 30 October 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Affleck in NYC (deangulberry), Saturday, 30 October 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Affleck in NYC (deangulberry), Saturday, 30 October 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)
yep, this is what giuliani said this morning on meet the press!
― teeny (teeny), Sunday, 31 October 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Sunday, 31 October 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 31 October 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Sunday, 31 October 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)
"They are barbarians. And I will stop at absolutely nothing to hunt them down and kill them..." [italic mine]?
Er, um. Here we see graphically demonstrated the difference between barbarism and civilisation. As filtered through the consciousness of the USA electorate and stated in 25 words or less.
― Aimless (Aimless), Sunday, 31 October 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Sunday, 31 October 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Sunday, 31 October 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 31 October 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 31 October 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Sunday, 31 October 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/worldview/story/0,11581,845725,00.html
― m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dale Panopticalis (cprek), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dale Panopticalis (cprek), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)
"We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah," bin Laden said in the transcript. He said the mujahedeen fighters did the same thing to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, "using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers."
"We, alongside the mujahedeen, bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat," bin Laden said. He also said al Qaeda has found it "easy for us to provoke and bait this administration."
"All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations," bin Laden said.
As part of the "bleed-until-bankruptcy plan," bin Laden cited a British estimate that it cost al Qaeda about $500,000 to carry out the attacks of September 11, 2001, an amount that he said paled in comparison with the costs incurred by the United States.
"Every dollar of al Qaeda defeated a million dollars, by the permission of Allah, besides the loss of a huge number of jobs," he said. "As for the economic deficit, it has reached record astronomical numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars.
The total U.S. national debt is more than $7 trillion. The U.S. federal deficit was $413 billion in 2004, according to the Treasury Department.
"It is true that this shows that al Qaeda has gained, but on the other hand it shows that the Bush administration has also gained, something that anyone who looks at the size of the contracts acquired by the shady Bush administration-linked mega-corporations, like Halliburton and its kind, will be convinced.
"And it all shows that the real loser is you," he said. "It is the American people and their economy."
As for President Bush's Iraq policy, Bin Laden said, "the darkness of black gold blurred his vision and insight, and he gave priority to private interests over the public interests of America.
"So the war went ahead, the death toll rose, the American economy bled, and Bush became embroiled in the swamps of Iraq that threaten his future," bin Laden said.
― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dale Panopticalis (cprek), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)
Consequently, it really doesn't matter if he shows us his grand strategy. We won't change or adapt to it. Our psychology prevents us. Our politics prevents us. Our pride prevents us. We'd sooner shatter than bend. Fuck that, but it's true.
― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)
Extreme Makeover: Osama bin Laden?
― gabbneb, Friday, 7 September 2007 23:18 (eighteen years ago)
Bin Laden Jumps the Shark?
― gabbneb, Friday, 7 September 2007 23:19 (eighteen years ago)
Max Schumacher: We could make a series of it. "Suicide of the Week." Aw, hell, why limit ourselves? "Execution of the Week." Howard Beale: "Terrorist of the Week." Max Schumacher: I love it. Suicides, assassinations, mad bombers, Mafia hitmen, automobile smash-ups: "The Death Hour." A great Sunday night show for the whole family. It'd wipe that fuckin' Disney right off the air.
― gabbneb, Friday, 7 September 2007 23:22 (eighteen years ago)
The Mao Tse Tung Hour went on the air March 14th. It received a 47 share. The network promptly committed to fifteen shows with an option for ten more. There were the usual contractual difficulties.
who's the American kid who did one of the tapes? is he writing bin laden's junior marxist speeches for him?
That's "Azam the American" or some such. He used to be a metalhead, legend has it. IF ONLY HE'D STUCK WITH BOLT THROWER AND MANOWAR, WE'D ALL BE SO MUCH BETTER OFF!
― Alex in NYC, Friday, 7 September 2007 23:43 (eighteen years ago)
Can someone make a quick list of all the reasons bin laden wants to attack America. And next to each reason, please mark whether the republicans supported or caused these things more than what democrats beleive.
example -multinational corporations. -republicans support them more than democrats who wanted more decentralization
― CaptainLorax, Saturday, 8 September 2007 02:24 (eighteen years ago)
I wonder if Bin Laden knows what political points he scores in America when he blames the attacks on things associated with Bush. After all, an attack on Bush is, by proxy, an attack on the independent and violent war he helped push for and will surely weaken support for Bush and the war back at home even further.
If only we hadn't sided with Bush we wouldn't have had nearly as many problems with you! Life is full of such regrets.
― Cunga, Saturday, 8 September 2007 02:44 (eighteen years ago)
That's my friend Danny!
― admrl, Saturday, 8 September 2007 02:46 (eighteen years ago)
In the months following the Taliban's evacuation of Kandahar, Afghanistan, in December 2001, cable news networks set up operations in the city in order to report on the war. In the dusty back rooms of a local recording studio, a CNN stringer came across an extraordinary archive: roughly 1,500 audiotapes taken from Osama bin Laden's residence, where he had lived from 1997-2001, during al Qaeda's most coherent organizational momentum.Discovered untouched by a local Afghan family after the rest of the house had been ransacked, the tapes were slated for use as blanks for recording Pashto pop-songs. CNN intervened with a cash-down offer and a different plan.https://news.vice.com/article/what-i-learned-about-al-qaeda-from-analyzing-the-bin-laden-tapes
Discovered untouched by a local Afghan family after the rest of the house had been ransacked, the tapes were slated for use as blanks for recording Pashto pop-songs. CNN intervened with a cash-down offer and a different plan.
https://news.vice.com/article/what-i-learned-about-al-qaeda-from-analyzing-the-bin-laden-tapes
Apparently the FBI looked at them and didn't want them, then CNN passed on using them as well. Seems weird to look at a collection of the supreme mastermind's person tapes from the years he was planning 9/11, in 2001, and go "Eh, these won't really be useful."
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 28 September 2015 16:37 (ten years ago)
But yes by all means continue torturing and warrant-less surveillance in the name of crucial intelligence...
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 28 September 2015 16:38 (ten years ago)