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apparently showing on al jazeera right now, about to make its way to cnn...

m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

apparently he claims on it that bush "misled the american people"! i can't tell if this is to bush's help or hindrance

m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i liked his earlier ones better.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the early, funny ones.

Kenan (kenan), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Would have made a great EP.

briania (briania), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm waiting for the DVD box set.

adam... (nordicskilla), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Meh. You want director's commentary, you know? And all they got was the producer and the DP.

Kenan (kenan), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Based on the CNN commentary I've heard it seems oddly...conciliatory. For him. He's trying to explain himself to the American people (even saying they didn't aim on bringing the towers down, though that *was* the aim of the first WTC plot), which suggests a guy understands something may have gone awry with his short-term plans in the last few years.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus there have been news reports of U.S. officials viewing the tape before the Al Jazeera airing, which is interesting. My understanding is that usually the US gov't is like the last to know about these things.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

wtf is bin laden such a pussy?

still bevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

there are how many US troops hunting bin laden? less 5, 000? - less 10, 000?

how many in iraq - 100, 000 + ?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

"Dear America,

According to Jim is a really terrible show and a waste of Courtney Thorne-Smith's infidel babe factor. "

Huk-L, Friday, 29 October 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

CNN: "Bin Laden video: Americans' security does not depend on the president they elect, but on U.S. policy. "Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda." Details soon."

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

What was the deal with the American al-Queda guy that ABC showed last night? Was someone bored in the dorm rec room again?

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

NEED LESS SKITS

Affleck in NYC (deangulberry), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Bin Laden: "Weeellll all that stuff about us hoping either Bush or Kerry gets elected is really bullshit, as you probably figured."

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

What was the deal with the American al-Queda guy that ABC showed last night? Was someone bored in the dorm rec room again?

It was Karl Rove.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

does the video tape make any reference to this:

Dear American People,

Do not call your baseball The World Series - until you learn to change your ways, the threat of Al Qeada remains.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

YO PUT THE TAPE BACK IN.. CROCKER

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

it would seem to me that this can only HURT bush on election day. i mean, he's had three years to bring bin laden to justice ("dead or alive" harhar), and the guy is still out there thumbing his nose. isn't this just another reminder of bush's colossal failures?

jimmy crackhorn, Friday, 29 October 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG WHAT IF THE TAPE SHOWS BUSH ARRESTING BIN LADEN WITH HIS LASSO OF JUSTICE WTF I VOTE HIM 2004S

Affleck in NYC (deangulberry), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

yea thats what those gay liberals would want you to think

still bevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

yea thats what those gay liberals would want you to think

No, those gay liberals want you to think you look sexy in a thong.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Dear American People,

Do not call your baseball The World Series

"OUR" baseball?

k3rry (dymaxia), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

DADDIO OTM

Affleck in NYC (deangulberry), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

the editor of al-hayat's interpretation: osama sez "vote for kerry!"

m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

"his own october suprise"

m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"vote for kerry or face the consequences!"

m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember in the Kerry-Bush debates, Kerry mentioned that Bush was ineffective due the inability to capture Bin Laden, cross ref with botched job of outsourcing the work to local warloads.

Surely the democrats could say they would double US resources to hunt Bin Laden down?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I just saw the still. That's not bin Laden - that's my uncle Shorty.

k3rry (dymaxia), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

(cutty won)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"...though CIA analysts suspect that the vintage of the tape is older than expected because bin Laden makes mocking comments about how the newest Spice Girls single and the X-Files season finale 'is ass and for that, all you infidels must die!'; he also mocked 'the new 99 cent menu and Wendy's' and threatened to 'kick the shaving cream' out of 'Governer Jesse Ventura and his shiny little chromedome!'
This shows that this videotape is actually older than the audio tape played last week, which was mostly bin Laden bitching that 'Clay Aiken wuz Robbed!' "

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

*crickets*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, okay. Jokes over. Everybody knows that Bin Laden was a Ruben Studdard fan all the way.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

quote on CNN: "I never thought Bush would leave 50,000 people to die in the towers alone, while he read to children a story about a goat." (?!)

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

http://s89194761.onlinehome.us/

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

uh, I'm pretty aware of the whole "My Pet Goat" thing, g. but thanks for that. No, I was just amazed that Bin Laden referenced it.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

supposedly bootleg copies of farenheit 9/11 sold very well in afghanistan (and iraq).

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

So, I guess this will keep the missing explosives and Halliburton out of the news for at least few days...

Miek D., Friday, 29 October 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

In that last two bin Laden tapes, he's looked suspiciously like a haggard, bearded Jeff Goldblum. I've definitely never seen the two of them together...

andy, Friday, 29 October 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

while he read to children a story about a goat.

"and the title of that children's book?...GOATSE. I'm Paul Harvey...good day."

Paul Harvey, Friday, 29 October 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

http://217.13.199.92/010911/img/97ernieobl.jpg

andy, Friday, 29 October 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

there's no sodding way he says 'goat' on that. *is* there?

did the sales of that book go thru the roof?
was the author ever interviewed or what?
did it come out again in shops and such?

piscesboy, Friday, 29 October 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

IT'S A TRIGGER FOR AN ATTACK. RUN FOR THE HILLS AND AWAY FROM THE VOTING BOOTHS PLEASE.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Where's the text on this thing? I can't find it on cnn.com.

k3rry (dymaxia), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I did read an interview with the author of the book. Apparently it's really one of those highly-systematized learning-to-read books, not a story-type thing.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)


The videotape, portions of which were shown on American television, showed Mr. Bin Laden dressed in white and gold robes and a turban, his long beard graying.

Reading from papers before him in a nondescript setting, Mr. Bin Laden mentions both Mr. Bush and his Democratic opponent, Senator John Kerry, and in a reference to the election on Tuesday, says, according to an translation by Al Jazeera: "Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or Al Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands."

Mr. Bin Laden also said the Bush administration resembled "corrupt" Arab governments.

"I never thought that the supreme leader would leave 50,000 of his people in the two towers to face the terrifying events alone at the time they were in need for him," he said, apparently referring to Mr. Bush and the attack on the World Trade Center towers.

He accused Mr. Bush of "misleading" the American people four years after the Sept. 11 attacks, the Al Jazeera Web site said, and added that "we decided to destroy towers in America," because "we want to regain the freedom of our nation."

The Associated Press said Mr. Bin Laden also went on to say in the videotape: "God knows that it had not occurred to our mind to attack the towers, but after our patience ran out and we saw the injustice and inflexibility of the American-Israeli alliance toward our people in Palestine and Lebanon, this came to my mind."

"To the U.S. people, my talk is to you about the best way to avoid another disaster," The A.P. reported him as saying. "I tell you, security is an important element of human life and free people do not give up their security."

He went on to say: "If Bush says we hate freedom, let him tell us why we didn't attack Sweden, for example. It is known that those who hate freedom do not have dignified souls, like those of the 19 blessed ones," he said, referring to the 19 hijackers.

"We fought you because we are free,'' he said, ""and want to regain freedom for our nation. As you undermine our security, we undermine yours."

still bevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

OBL: We agreed with Mohamed Atta, god bless him, to execute the whole operation in 20 minutes. Before Bush and his administration would pay attention and we never thought that the high commander of the US armies would leave 50 thousand of his citizens in both towers to face the horrors by themselves when they most needed him because it seemed to distract his attention from listening to the girl telling him about her goat butting was more important than paying attention to airplanes butting the towers which gave us three times the time to execute the operation thank god.

Affleck in NYC (deangulberry), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"Why not Sweden?"

Great. Now Osama bin Laden is stealing MY arguements.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

BIN LADEN GOT JOKES

Affleck in NYC (deangulberry), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I agree with Gear. The heart of the terror problem is US/Israel policy and the fact that the citizens of the middle east are 50% 18 years old and below, poor, fed antizionist textbooks at school and fucking PISSED OFF. We need to do something about it other than blowing up Iraq.

still bevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah fat tom berenger was one of the city elders although the judge from ghostbusters II got all the lines in that scene

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Could two post have any less to do with one another?

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Thermo, is this your 's'? It was down here at the bottom of my monitor.

Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

No. I meant two post in the singular.

Like two beer.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

From the Al Jazeera Message Boards:

پ گګۆۆںۙ George Bush ڴ ڙڡڦ ٹڂپگګ ۆۆںۙ My Pet Goatڴڙ ڡڦ ٹڂ پگګۆۆںۙڴ ڙڡڦ Dick Cheney ٹڂ پ گګۆۆںۙ ڴپگ ګۆۆںۙڴ پگګۆ ۆںۙڴڙ contemptuous cunt ڡ ڦٹڂOMG LOL! ڡ ٹڂڙڡڦٹڂ

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Wouldn't you believe it, it's just my luck. No recess. You're back in grad school again.

hahahah I listened to the live album earlier today

Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Dave, you misspelled "ٹڂ پگګۆںۙڴ"

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 30 October 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Martian, you're funny.

I hope that the tape does not make people vote Dubya. I liked what i saw of Kerry's response.

the bellefox, Saturday, 30 October 2004 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand how a videotape of George Bush being mocked by the mass murderer he has failed to catch for 3 years can be spun in Bush's favor. What, we're supposed to pat him on the back and say, "Don't worry big guy, you'll get him next time"?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 30 October 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there a stream of this somewhere? I really want to see it, but CNN won't let me.

Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Saturday, 30 October 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Here it is:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/rdonlyres/973F1229-454F-4384-BF08-1D86A911DDF7/53231/Binladin.asf

Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Saturday, 30 October 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

The right and the Bush campaign are definitely going to spin this into "look at how Bin Laden uses the same criticisms against Bush that our opponent and Michael Moore and the left use! Do you want that kind of mindset running your country?"

Ugh. Fuck.

MC Transmaniacon (natepatrin), Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

http://terpsboy.com/blogpics04/kerry-osami.jpg

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 30 October 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

3 MORE FUCKING DAYS

Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Saturday, 30 October 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Cronkite saying that Rove is behind the Bin Laden = classic?

Affleck in NYC (deangulberry), Saturday, 30 October 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

*tape

Affleck in NYC (deangulberry), Saturday, 30 October 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The right and the Bush campaign are definitely going to spin this into "look at how Bin Laden uses the same criticisms against Bush that our opponent and Michael Moore and the left use! Do you want that kind of mindset running your country?"

yep, this is what giuliani said this morning on meet the press!

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 31 October 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

really? i thought that'd be a line of reasoning that only the nuttiest of nutjob rightwing bloggers would touch - seems too volatile for anyone closer to the political center

m. (mitchlnw), Sunday, 31 October 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

They are terribly terribly desperate. I think the writing is on the wall for Dubya.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 31 October 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

TWO FUCKING DAYS LEFT

Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Sunday, 31 October 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Not to put too fine a point on it, but did anyone else react strangely to John Kerry saying:

"They are barbarians. And I will stop at absolutely nothing to hunt them down and kill them..." [italic mine]?

Er, um. Here we see graphically demonstrated the difference between barbarism and civilisation. As filtered through the consciousness of the USA electorate and stated in 25 words or less.

Aimless (Aimless), Sunday, 31 October 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

we live in bellicose times, it seems

Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Sunday, 31 October 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

ah well, I remember when Kerry was criticized as being 'overly nuanced'. He seems to have hit his stride, I guess. Not that I object to his being elected. I was phone banking for him yestreday and shall be canvassing tomorrow.

Aimless (Aimless), Sunday, 31 October 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

When I heard the word 'barbarians,' I can't help but think of Frank Frazetta paintints.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 31 October 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

paintings.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 31 October 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

http://koti.mbnet.fi/~zuge/kuvat/frazetta4.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 31 October 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Caption: Osama bin Laden and Mohammed Atta exult over the prostrate form of their enemy, George W. Bush.

Aimless (Aimless), Sunday, 31 October 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

(weird that i started this thread too, that i'd forgotten about -Osama Bin Ladin video released )(and look how similar the first responses are)

m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

the full text:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/worldview/story/0,11581,845725,00.html

m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

whoops, that the text for the 2002 'letter to america'.. one moment

m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

now i'm having trouble finding it. anyone have the full transcript for this?

m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/79C6AF22-98FB-4A1C-B21F-2BC36E87F61F.htm

Dale Panopticalis (cprek), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently he has seen Fahrenheit 911. Gives it 4/5 stars.

Dale Panopticalis (cprek), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I was wondering where the rest of this text was, and why it was omitted last week. It's obviously for political reasons, and we were told that US officials negotiated for a long time with Al Jazeera to limit the material released. In fact, Bin Laden says some very interesting things in the bits they've just released. CNN reports his 'plan to bankrupt the US'. I don't see how anyone could say this would have played to Bush's advantage.

"We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah," bin Laden said in the transcript. He said the mujahedeen fighters did the same thing to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, "using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers."

"We, alongside the mujahedeen, bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat," bin Laden said. He also said al Qaeda has found it "easy for us to provoke and bait this administration."

"All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations," bin Laden said.

As part of the "bleed-until-bankruptcy plan," bin Laden cited a British estimate that it cost al Qaeda about $500,000 to carry out the attacks of September 11, 2001, an amount that he said paled in comparison with the costs incurred by the United States.

"Every dollar of al Qaeda defeated a million dollars, by the permission of Allah, besides the loss of a huge number of jobs," he said. "As for the economic deficit, it has reached record astronomical numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars.

The total U.S. national debt is more than $7 trillion. The U.S. federal deficit was $413 billion in 2004, according to the Treasury Department.

"It is true that this shows that al Qaeda has gained, but on the other hand it shows that the Bush administration has also gained, something that anyone who looks at the size of the contracts acquired by the shady Bush administration-linked mega-corporations, like Halliburton and its kind, will be convinced.

"And it all shows that the real loser is you," he said. "It is the American people and their economy."

As for President Bush's Iraq policy, Bin Laden said, "the darkness of black gold blurred his vision and insight, and he gave priority to private interests over the public interests of America.

"So the war went ahead, the death toll rose, the American economy bled, and Bush became embroiled in the swamps of Iraq that threaten his future," bin Laden said.

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

It's odd that OBL would just show us his playbook like that though.

Dale Panopticalis (cprek), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

It's odd that OBL would just show us his playbook like that though.
Well, how are we going to stop him? Thats what I Want to know.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.imomus.com/zugzwang.jpeg

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Not really. OBL knows us. He knows we can't help it. We'll "never negotiate with terrorists", "never back down from a fight", never give in to terrorist threats", and so on. We have unwarranted contempt for our enemies and believe that it doesn't matter what they do - we will win. Finally, we are so deeply involved in Iraq we can't withdraw and we can't win. Shades of Vietnam! Shades of the British Empire!

Consequently, it really doesn't matter if he shows us his grand strategy. We won't change or adapt to it. Our psychology prevents us. Our politics prevents us. Our pride prevents us. We'd sooner shatter than bend. Fuck that, but it's true.

Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

Extreme Makeover: Osama bin Laden?

gabbneb, Friday, 7 September 2007 23:18 (eighteen years ago)

Bin Laden Jumps the Shark?

gabbneb, Friday, 7 September 2007 23:19 (eighteen years ago)

Max Schumacher: We could make a series of it. "Suicide of the Week." Aw, hell, why limit ourselves? "Execution of the Week."
Howard Beale: "Terrorist of the Week."
Max Schumacher: I love it. Suicides, assassinations, mad bombers, Mafia hitmen, automobile smash-ups: "The Death Hour." A great Sunday night show for the whole family. It'd wipe that fuckin' Disney right off the air.

gabbneb, Friday, 7 September 2007 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

The Mao Tse Tung Hour went on the air March 14th. It received a 47 share. The network promptly committed to fifteen shows with an option for ten more. There were the usual contractual difficulties.

gabbneb, Friday, 7 September 2007 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

who's the American kid who did one of the tapes? is he writing bin laden's junior marxist speeches for him?

gabbneb, Friday, 7 September 2007 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

That's "Azam the American" or some such. He used to be a metalhead, legend has it. IF ONLY HE'D STUCK WITH BOLT THROWER AND MANOWAR, WE'D ALL BE SO MUCH BETTER OFF!

Alex in NYC, Friday, 7 September 2007 23:43 (eighteen years ago)

Can someone make a quick list of all the reasons bin laden wants to attack America. And next to each reason, please mark whether the republicans supported or caused these things more than what democrats beleive.

example
-multinational corporations. -republicans support them more than democrats who wanted more decentralization

CaptainLorax, Saturday, 8 September 2007 02:24 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder if Bin Laden knows what political points he scores in America when he blames the attacks on things associated with Bush. After all, an attack on Bush is, by proxy, an attack on the independent and violent war he helped push for and will surely weaken support for Bush and the war back at home even further.

If only we hadn't sided with Bush we wouldn't have had nearly as many problems with you! Life is full of such regrets.

Cunga, Saturday, 8 September 2007 02:44 (eighteen years ago)

who's the American kid who did one of the tapes? is he writing bin laden's junior marxist speeches for him?

That's my friend Danny!

admrl, Saturday, 8 September 2007 02:46 (eighteen years ago)

eight years pass...

In the months following the Taliban's evacuation of Kandahar, Afghanistan, in December 2001, cable news networks set up operations in the city in order to report on the war. In the dusty back rooms of a local recording studio, a CNN stringer came across an extraordinary archive: roughly 1,500 audiotapes taken from Osama bin Laden's residence, where he had lived from 1997-2001, during al Qaeda's most coherent organizational momentum.

Discovered untouched by a local Afghan family after the rest of the house had been ransacked, the tapes were slated for use as blanks for recording Pashto pop-songs. CNN intervened with a cash-down offer and a different plan.

https://news.vice.com/article/what-i-learned-about-al-qaeda-from-analyzing-the-bin-laden-tapes

Apparently the FBI looked at them and didn't want them, then CNN passed on using them as well. Seems weird to look at a collection of the supreme mastermind's person tapes from the years he was planning 9/11, in 2001, and go "Eh, these won't really be useful."

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 28 September 2015 16:37 (ten years ago)

But yes by all means continue torturing and warrant-less surveillance in the name of crucial intelligence...

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 28 September 2015 16:38 (ten years ago)


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