Cliques/Elitism at ILx

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since most of you are "veterans" or old-timers here, i'm wondering if you've ever acknowledged before whether feelings of clannishness, or mutually-approved cliquishness, exist here... that you demonstrate towards outsiders? has this ever been discussed before? i don't really think there IS much of it here, it seems like since it is such a large forum with a few hundred? people, everyone doesn't even seem know "everyone" else so little groups of friends naturally developed by themselves, and like any community, cyberfriends are suspicious of stranggers at first. sometimes new people are just trolls, or people who are posting for the hell of it to disrupt a forum. and then there are new-people-who-make-their-postings-irrelevant-due-to-giving-first-impressions-of-frivolity, like moi.

as a more or less objective new/outsider type, i don't really think it's that bad here, i must say. but really, how inclusive is ILM and ILE to people who are new, or weird, or both, or those who just weren't here for the launch ? is there a secretly elitist/clannish mindset that is reinforced through secret email chain letters that ridicule new people? i've noticed that there really isn't much open hostility towards new posters, which is a good thing, but i guess i can't say this conclusively since i don't know who else is new besides me, and i've just arrived at that conclusion since no one has been hostile towards me. i think, if anything, there seems to be a contemptuous SILENCE towards those who have not proven their intellectual worthiness (or entertainment value, or whatever it is that enders one cyberposter to another here - different for everyone) yet, and maybe this is related to the stereotypes of the hipper-than-thou or "snobbish" stance of the indie community (not nearly as bad as at pitchfork though). since you all seem to know each other - from those things called blogs (which i'm beginning to comprehend), cyberchats and real life meetings - for some years now, it seems natural that it's a pretty tight-knit comunity that has already established its social circles, much like a real "clique" in life; hopefully it doesn't develop into a rejection of newcomers in the future though, due to the security that familiarity represents. or maybe it's laziness of getting to know about new people

I truly think it's better here than at some other communities I have actually been a part of - this other music community, in particular, we were consciously vicious towards newcomers, who would have to prove their salt towards us. there were entire, complex and wholly-realized hierarchies at play. it was a cyber fraternity, nearly, and we were merciless...

ILx seems like a very large playground in comparison, yet one which might find one hopelessly talking to only himself or herself in a lonely dirty corner. maybe the contemputous silence is more potent than campy hostility

― Vic, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

We're all insecure. IL* stops us from going mad. Entertainment, old chap - that's the main aim.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

its funny, i was reading your post and wondering who it would be from, and thinking it would be somebody new and i didn't know, and then i saw it was you Vic, and i realised that i already think of you as part of the whole thing anyway. i think people start as outsiders, if you like, but then just aren't. the whole idea for me is for it to be as inclusive as possible, and i don't like it if someone feels excluded. there are many 'minicliques' within ilx, but not in a bad way i would say, they don't take over, and there are many people who are 'solo' if you like.

interesting examples are Ronan and Jess, who are 'newcomers' if you like, but bulldozed their way on (in a good way) and have posted a lot more, and have a higher profile, than me, and i've been posting since 'it were all fields round here'

what city you in Vic?

― gareth, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The thing to remember is that the forums don't make any attempt to pick up new members - mostly people come to them via friends, or websites or just by googling - so there's no set 'welcoming committee' or 'newbie netiquette' or anything. Yes there is cliquiness and clannishness - it comes with the web, and it also arises from the informal structure of ILx - but new members are great. It is probably easier to get noticed quickly if you 'bulldoze' as Gareth says or make a startling first post or just know a lot about something (films or literature or whatever) and so get listened to on those kind of topics.

― Tom, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i'm in los angeles, what about you?

oh thanks for thinking i'm part of it, etc. and i'll admit that my post was than tinged with self-consciousness, but i seriously am interested in finding out what everyone else thinks in regards to their experiences here. what's hard if you're new is not to know who other new people are and that "introduce yourself" board is too hard to memorize

i guess an adjunct question would be - what was YOUR experience getting sutured into the ILx community, if you weren't here when there were fields/at the start ? and if you were here in the beginning, what sort of new posters did you accept into your cyber world most at first, and why ?

― Vic, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have to admit, even though I'm an "old timer" and I've been on this board since day one, I'm a paranoid fucking freak when it comes to cliques and factions. However, much of my paranoia is NOT without foundation (though where and who laid the foundations are not entirely clear).

I don't feel a part of any clique, in fact there are some cliques I feel actively excluded from, for whatever reason or other. I've had bad experiences in the past, both in this community, and in others, so perhaps I go out of my way to avoid cliques when I see them forming.

It must be intimidating as all hell to walk into a forum like this, with its established culture and in-jokes, so I understand your trepidation. It's true that new people get, well, not so much made fun of, but more ignored, which is a worse form of ostracism. Unless you've got a unique and distinctive posting style or high profile, you can get lost in the shuffle.

I don't think this is malicious or conscious, it's just that the volume of this forum makes it difficult to remember or process new additions until they've forced their way into your consciousness. Is that bad? Well, it's probably not very welcoming.

There is stuff that goes on offboard, it's blindeyed to pretend that it doesn't. Had a strange conversation about this just the other night. Because other members of the community don't know it's happening, this lends it a sinister or secretive air that is not necessarily warranted. That frightens me. You might think that you are just a few friends getting together to chat, and in the process you discuss mutual aquaintances and common interests (we discuss this forum the way some people discuss what was on TV the night before) but in the wrong view, it would seem like we were maliciously gossiping behind other's backs. When that was never the intention. And then I fear that I am guilty of exactly what I have chastised others for. My paranoia leads me to imitate the sort of behaviour I despise.

I've stopped answering the question and started thinking out loud at this point, so forgive me. I hope you feel more welcome here.

― kate, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I sort of came to ILx through the 'London Indie' mailing list, and then the London Indie USA charity night arrangements.

So, as I had been on the periphery of the London Indie circuit anyway, and I didn't feel as 'new' as all that. I really enjoy ILE, and I enjoy it when people respond to what you have to say. Positively or negatively! Its shaken up my lazier preconceptions, and it gets me thinking and chuckling in an otherwise brain-numbing job.

I don't think ILE is especially cliquey, its just that its component gangs have a shared history, and its very difficult not to talk about that! You seem like a thoughtful and intelligent person, Vic, so everyone's bound to warm to you!

Having send that, I'm well pissed off at my lack of nominations you Mafiosi bastards. ;-)

― Will, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

well, i'm one of the large number of London posters, but when i first came on the board (via freaky trigger) i didn't know anybody here, and had never met anyone. i have realised that, even though i had a blog linked to from other peoples sites and stuff, i didn't actually post for quite a long time (3 months?? i'm actually going to try and find my first post), but just lurked and read everything

― gareth, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I nominated you for love-to-hate Will ;)

Maybe we need another introduce yourself thread...

― Tom, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, must we?

― Sarah, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Then again, it must be better than the images brought to my head from Anthonys write yer own story thead oy vey! I actually met more of the regular posters here in that there REALITY before I started posting on here regularly (ie not sporadically once a day), so when I had proper internet access at work I didn't feel at all a newbie. I feel paranoid abotu some people but that's after you get to know them BETTER as opposed to not knowing them at all. I often am suspicious that people don't really approve of me and I think there's several of them on this board, but to be honest I could give two flying monkeys.

― Sarah, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Or that ILE profiles page.

― Tom, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Haha! I want a profiles page together with pictures of the SUSSED DJs spinning their "wheels" of "steel". Or in other words, putting cds in the player and pressing GO. Has the vinyl EVAH worked? Needless to say I am scared of DJing with real rekkids but seeing as I now have the Skodas 7" I see it is urgent and key that I learn for next time. RickyTs cute picture could adorn the front "splash" page (as I believe those techies call it).

― Sarah, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

**There is stuff that goes on offboard, it's blindeyed to pretend that it doesn't. Had a strange conversation about this just the other night. Because other members of the community don't know it's happening, this lends it a sinister or secretive air that is not necessarily warranted. That frightens me**

Whooo! What's happening - ouija boards? Black masses? DO TELL, Kate?

So these "anyone fancy a pint" messages are really Tom's code for something far more sinister. Be careful out there.

― Dr. C, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"fancy a pint"=lithuanian for "burn Dr Cs clothes and stick pins in his eye"

― gareth, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hi Vic,, You won't find it silent here lol! Gale

― Gale Deslongchamps, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I got here because an ex who I'm still on good terms with told me about FT/ILM. I lurked for a couple of weeks, fascinated by the interplay between people, so by the time I started posting I was interested in what various posters had to say back to me. When I finally did, my friend did the welcome-the-newbie hello. My career gives me a lot of privileges and proximity to interesting people, which I like to tell people about in what I hope is an inclusive way. It's fun to debunk * anything* manipulative, stupid PRs try to foist on the public on behalf of celebrity clients, for example, or to talk about what working in journalism is really like. And I am only going to say this once: it is NOT namedropping if the so-called names really are friends. I don't consider talking about what some of my friends are up to any different from anyone else telling amusing stories about their friends here.

A few weeks after I started to post people started talking about having a big meet-up and I like parties so I threw one for everyone, despite feeling most of the time like I couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery. Now I have at least 10 new friends because of ILx, one or two of whom are pretty close. THAT is cool.

I'm not really bothered about cliquishness; I didn't transplant myself 5000 miles to relive all my Junior High neurosis with a different set of people (but I like telling stories about it). The only things that annoy me about the whole thing is that ILx is the best procrastination device IN THE WORLD and I have a phone bill to prove it!

― suzy, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I hope you feel more welcome here. Oi vey! this is why i was reluctant of asking this sinceit could be misconstrued as some selfserving call for pity..not at all, I was just writing what I had observed here as a new person ( albeit in a self-conscious tone) but I feel fine myself!! cause at this point i've posted enough i think, to not be an totally unfamiliar name. thanks though : )

and see, these responses are very interesting so far. one, that you actually treat this whole thing as something you can talk about like TV from last night, that was just strange when I first read it, but I can understand how this can be an entertainment-pasttime like that. i guess everyone doesn't just post from work/the office then, and most also from home? secondly, how some of you met in real life/other places before here...see, that would not have even been possible in the other community i used to post in, since we were all scattered from everywhere, very dispersed. but we would plan fantasy meet-ups and such. and we actually had these award things too.. even for "worst/best new poster," "poster you most want to kill," etc. to be as obnoxious as possible

and you're right, about all the intrigue that's going on behind everyone's back, thats why i brought it up - secret email alliances and such. it was so much drama, it was just like a nasty cyber version of high school except that you can't get back at people as easily as you could in high school (real life = more opportunities to destroy someone forever), and that helplessness adds to the paranoia. it was so funny though since i noticed myself getting wrapped into so much melodrama with people i knew i never would even meet in real life...so why did i care? why did any of us? the power of the internet

and i loved it. too much. that's why i left, cause really, i was addicted. i honestly think internet-addiction is just as *strong,* if not as dangerous, as say heroin or coke... if you can't get up at 3 am on your way to the bathroom without stopping to see if anyone posted, well, that's just fucking sick

― Vic, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The last-night's TV thing - well basically of the 10 or so people I see most socially most post or lurk here, so it seems fairly natural to talk about it. It is quite alienating for people who aren't so interested so I'm going to try and rein it back a bit.

― Tom, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But Tom when you start doing that where are the limits with control? There's other threads that I perhaps would not be interested in yet you can't say because someone on THIS side of the globe isn't interested (or informed, ect) enough to respond to Tads US politics threads that they should be reigned in either. I know the moderators position isn't easy but I think controlling subject matter is a very shady area.

― Sarah, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

** "fancy a pint"=lithuanian for "burn Dr Cs clothes and stick pins in his eye" **

A good job I haven't turned up yet, but I will one of these days - prepared to defend myself!

― Dr. C, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sarah you misunderstood. I'm talking about me in the pub! i.e. I am happily sitting there gabbing away to you and RickyT about ILE gossip and meanwhile someone who doesn't read it might be sitting there thinking "fucking hell what a sad wanker tom is". I'm not going to regulate subject matter as a moderator, well no more so than I do now.

― Tom, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A meet up is one of the major ways people can public bitch about the stuff going on at ILE. Its nigh on impossible to do so actually on the boards without turning them into much nastier versions of themselves. I am part of what would be called Tom's London Clique and it is not unusual for us - when out for a beer - to spend a good proportion of our time discussing people, perceived personalities and our responses. Some of that will be eye-rolling spite as well, we are after all human. Some of that will be continuing discussions had here.

I try not to drag any of the cliqueness on to the boards - though it can be difficult if you know people in real life not to refer to in- jokes (though it is best to explain them). Luckily we have another forum where this can be done...

― Pete, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ah, beer logic there Tom! Pete, stop talking about the SECRET FORUMS (nb people I do not haf any secret forums BUT AM I LYING?) else people will worry! To be honest, sometimes I can get paranoid here but then I must remember that LORES of the interweb are SMALL THINGS when away from a computer...

― Sarah, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have to say I've enjoyed the couple of recent meet-ups more than the board things of late. Suspect that with my current computer-down- due-to-BT-arsing-about-as-previous-resident-fled-without-paying-bill situation I feel more driven to do some actual socialising.

I must say especial thanks to Pete on Tuesday, who was a very good listener.

I still find socialising very difficult (as Mark S will testify) because (a) it's hard to try to do something alone that you're so used to doing as half of a couple for so many years; and (b) the fact that I can't let 20 minutes of talk go by without coming back to my bereavement. Am very conscious that people would get put off by my going on and on and on about it (as I'm sure I've said somewhere else on these boards) but it's impossible not to when it remains the overhanging thread which governs my life. It's what I still think about 90% of the time (that new Cher song "The Music's No Good Without You" nearly got me weeping - how sad is that? Definitely Simon Bates territory).

But seeing as I've now assimilated myself into the "London Clique" (which is easier than the two-man "Oxford Clique" of old) I do appreciate it that everyone puts up with me so gracefully.

The boards? Well I'm just happy to settle for entertainment from them, from whoever posts. It's all an extension of inner self blah de blah but threads certainly work better when you know the people doing them. So "Wally Klemmer" is as real as "Marcello Carlin" although the former tends to come into play more when things are getting TOO serious.

I'm looking forward to the Xmas do, whenever and wherever it will take place, and to meeting a hell of a lot more of you WONDERFUL GUYS (sob sob, pray for the Dalai Lama . . .)

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I gossip all the time, it is a natural human instinct.

However, when you have been the subject of not-very-pleasant gossip, and you find out about it in a not-very-pleasant way (and if the person doing the revealing of said gossip is doing it in a malicious way) then that changes your perspective considerably. It should reflect badly on the persons doing the reporting, rather the persons doing the gossiping. (Something said in passing pub gossip should probably be left there, and it is malicious to quote it out of context with unknown purposes.) But it never seems to work that way, does it?

That doesn't stop me from doing it. ;-)

― kate, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

vic the easiest thing to do is do what i do: hate everyone who posts here equally. fucking wankers.

(actually, the cliquishness doesn't really bodder me, as i've been more or less assimiliated into the mainstream of ilx cultcha. i talk to a buncha people off board via IM, email, etc., but i will probably never meet anyone - even the people who live in pa and nyc - owing to povery and EXTREME laziness on my part.)

― jess, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

doesn't really bodder me...ilx cultcha.

I think I am going to start talking like this. Or, er, I guess I mean typing. I think everyone should type like that.

i'm from the other side of pa than you, you know: the hick side

― Vic, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ILx is an entertaining way of passing time. I don't really feel there is a clique per se, it's just some people know each other from real life and obviously there is more fun to be had if that's the case, stories, friendly and unfriendly mocking etc. I will bulldoze further into your pathetic meaningless lives.

― Ronan, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm sure ILx is cliquish just because some people know each other better. I don't e-mail or talk to people outside of the boards at all except for one person on AIM, so I'm not tight in with everyone, but that's all right because IL just isn't as big a part of my life as it is for people who live near each other and keep close in touch (even though I do like Anthony stories). I think that people are friendly enough that if I or anyone did try to get to know them more they'd be accepting as long as I had something interesting to say. I don't see a contemptuous silence as much as an ambivalent one.

― Maria, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i'm in los angeles, what about you?

Now where are you again, Vic, in LA? Because I'll probably be up there next weekend with some friends, let's meet up (Arthur as well, if you're reading this). We're going to do an Amoeba run or something. I'm down in OC, BTW.

Regarding cliques -- I guess I can lay claim to helping along a certain founding bunch thanks to some machinations of mine (with the best of intent!) two years ago when alt.music.alternative was dying on its knees and we decamped elsewhere. Tom's work on FT is the real key, though, and from there it all just merrily spread. :-)

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

six years pass...

TEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

There were "veterans and old-timers" six years ago?

― chap, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

of course there is n00b stfu

― ken c, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

i always think stfu sounds like a university name

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

or abbreviation

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

they have big rivalry with those foad punks

― blueski, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

I was a star Running Back in the ROTFL.

― Kerm, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

all the cool kids were on USENET

― DG, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

And I am only going to say this once: it is NOT namedropping if the so-called names really are friends

glad we cleared this up, good revive

― That mong guy that's shit, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

if you never attack-dialled the ilx bbs you never lived

― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

Please put this in the FAQ, Morten Gamst Pedersen was just telling me the other day he wasn't 100% clear on the issue

― That mong guy that's shit, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

DG, don't joke. search google groups for some early '90s Ned/Hongro USENET music debates. It's like looking down the rabbit hole.

― sanskrit, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

And I am only going to say this once: it is NOT namedropping if the so-called names really are friends

Was just saying this the other day, at a dinner party around Steve "The Brooklyn Brawler" Lombardi's house.

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

search google groups for some early '90s Ned/Hongro USENET music debates. It's like looking down the rabbit hole.

All too true.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/7199/ericbrakimrm9.jpg

― DG, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

"Extended Beat"

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, when I went to Pizza Express with Rakim the other week (Special Ed was there, and Ian Holloway), he said the original title for it was "Extension Beat"

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

And I am only going to say this once: it is NOT namedropping if the so-called names really are friends

haha!!

― omar little, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

Skipping 5 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

luckily, we landed on a broad expanse of richard griffiths, so nobody broke a tooth or nothin'

― remy bean, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

brb guys, the bassist from Urge Overkill is on the phone

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

Tell him Courtney says hi.

― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

doompatrol did all these jokes in 2001 guys

― DG, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

Revivalist

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

he was only doing research :(

― DG, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

"thread reinvigoration engineer"

― remy bean, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

^^^^hipster

― felicity, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

i am growing an ironic mustache as we speak

― remy bean, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.zshare.net/audio/725398748fc8bd/

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

nine years pass...

Hate u all tbh

― virginity simple (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 22:47 (nine years ago)

Hate, jealousy, whatever you want to call it.

― How many gigabyte is in trilobites (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 22:51 (nine years ago)

shunned like the chicken pox

― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 23:04 (nine years ago)

I love me.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 23:06 (nine years ago)

anyone wanna start an elite clique

― flopson, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 23:08 (nine years ago)

i love you too, ned. i want to bask in another terrastock : )

― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 23:08 (nine years ago)

no sense in making a big deal bc who gives a fuck but there are pretty obvious cliques on here

dmacs chill tho

― i n f i n i t y (∞), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 23:09 (nine years ago)

more interested in starting an ilx rebellion tho tbh

p sure we can pinpoint the source of the empire

― i n f i n i t y (∞), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 23:15 (nine years ago)

the godhead is nicky wire in a banana suit

― remy bean, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 23:47 (nine years ago)

Hate u all tbh

We know better, dmac. From a quick search of Say something nice about another ILXor:

I like ilx, mostly

― mister borges (darraghmac), Friday, March 22, 2013

i got love for my passionate & earnest ilxors u know that

― should we bin tapping? (darraghmac), Tuesday, June 18, 2013

Im on record as loving ye all, with all yere faults. Im an irish mammy if anything.

― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Thursday, May 26, 2016

Another search in the same thread for the affectionate nicknames "dmac" and "deems" reveals much gooey reciprocation. The lovefest is a sight to behold.

― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 27 April 2017 00:17 (nine years ago)

Nothing lasts forever, deal

― virginity simple (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 April 2017 00:21 (nine years ago)

you are familiar with the term turncoat, then, eh? it's not a pretty one. not pretty at all.

― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 27 April 2017 00:24 (nine years ago)

XXp

Hes a man of many faces

All the good ones are tbh

― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 27 April 2017 00:25 (nine years ago)

Mines reversible and even goes in the drier gway and shite

― virginity simple (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 April 2017 00:25 (nine years ago)

(pirouettes away)

― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 27 April 2017 00:26 (nine years ago)

Ive been posting/reading this board since 2002 and barely know who you assholes are

― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 27 April 2017 00:44 (nine years ago)

Couldn't care less captain dingleberry

― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 27 April 2017 00:47 (nine years ago)

I always knew you were one of the mean ones, whoever u are

― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 27 April 2017 00:47 (nine years ago)

nominations for head of the resistance?

― calstars, Thursday, 27 April 2017 00:51 (nine years ago)

Sketch out the targets first just tbs tbs

― virginity simple (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 April 2017 00:58 (nine years ago)

They definitely post on the us politics thread

― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 27 April 2017 01:15 (nine years ago)

I'm for carpetbombing, no innocents on that thread imo

― virginity simple (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 April 2017 01:17 (nine years ago)

ilx doesn't have enough regulars for cliques. god, even our secret board isn't a clique.

― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 27 April 2017 01:19 (nine years ago)

I aim to bring down the leviathan from the inside

― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 April 2017 01:23 (nine years ago)

maybe your "secret" board isn't but the real secret board is

― a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 27 April 2017 01:24 (nine years ago)

Be shocked but I recently discovered twitch and have been watching with zeal how these dudes raid peoples channels or whatever theyre called

RES RAID

― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 27 April 2017 01:26 (nine years ago)

you ever notice that when there are "61 Active Users", there only seem to be about 20 active users? did it ever make you wonder?

― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 27 April 2017 01:27 (nine years ago)

lol irc channel raids used to be a thing xp

― a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 27 April 2017 01:27 (nine years ago)

active users just means people signed in and clicking

― a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 27 April 2017 01:27 (nine years ago)

this place used to be meaner

― Treeship, Thursday, 27 April 2017 01:29 (nine years ago)

now we're just averager

― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 27 April 2017 01:29 (nine years ago)

yeah, we got got harrison bergeron'ed

― Treeship, Thursday, 27 April 2017 01:31 (nine years ago)

FPs for Algernon

― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 April 2017 01:36 (nine years ago)

FPs for Algernon

― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 April 2017 01:36 (nine years ago)

i used to be meaner. but i just can't be too much of a dick when i have wally beben's c64 tetris soundtrack on loop.

― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 27 April 2017 01:52 (nine years ago)

Just gotta ride the net splits then kickban the mods out of the ilx irc channel

― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 27 April 2017 02:01 (nine years ago)

winnuke
ping flood their modem-connected computer off of your friend's server (he works at an ISP)
convince them to install trojans

― a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 27 April 2017 02:02 (nine years ago)

this place used to be meaner
― Treeship, Thursday, 27 April 2017 01:29 (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I could "FP" for calling austerity a buzzword. Instead I'll call you a cunt, like a grown-up.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 22:39 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 April 2017 07:43 (nine years ago)

this place used to be meaner

male menopause finds fatigue swamping venality

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 April 2017 10:36 (nine years ago)

Be shocked but I recently discovered twitch and have been watching with zeal how these dudes raid peoples channels or whatever theyre called

i'd been wondering how long it would take for an ilxor to get swatted

― ben "bance" bance (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 27 April 2017 11:24 (nine years ago)

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