Rocky Horror Picture Show C/D

*dramatic tap*

"This...person?"

Sorry Ned ;)

xpost yay ipso!

RHPS was crucial in the development of my adolescent sexuality, I was totally obsessed with transvestites in high school. Yes I was a theatre geek.

Mayeb it's the hype. It was hyped soooo much when I was a teen - "Oh, you've got to see it, its great. Its fantastic. It's sooooo funny!" and I was given the soundtrack to listen to. A fun afternoon was spent listening to the soundtrack and playing Civ. The soundtrack is great - fun songs sung well. So I watched the video that night with my friends round. And it was shockingly bad. The songs' majesty dissolved into a sludge of ill-conceived ideas and humourless humour.

To this day, I can't figure out why somone flicking comdoms is funny.

I'm sorry my thoughts are rather sketchy and badly spelt - I have Joan Jett on Winamp, and I'm not gonna turn her off to tell you lot how much I hate RHPS.

P.S. I still get RHPS and RHCP confused. My opinion of the movie would be greatly increased if Californication was in it.

(I'm going to NedHell arent I?)

This is very . . . odd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI6zIqVxmmk

I think that the main problem is that 'Timewarp'/'Sweet Transvestite' is such a killer combo that the movie never really recovers from it, even when Meatloaf turns up.

^^^

i think the floor show is the best part besides meatloaf.
― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:24 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark

Floor show is great. I'd probably still get a kick out of the 1st half but the 2nd half really does totally suck. I honestly don't think I could sit through the whole thing anymore. Turns out I still know all the words to the soundtrack as I've just found out looking the songs up on yt.

BTW Neil Gaiman is playing piano (sorta) in that clip I posted earlier.

Awww, I really love Meatloaf.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-bkTz31bw0&feature=related

And now my throat hurts from singing for the last 1/2 hour.

pretty much amazing til about half way in, although I'm Going Home is killer.

I was thinking about this quite a lot. The difference is that the stage show references sci-fi/horror B movies, while the movie has to portray those same tropes a lot straighter, because we're expecting a movie to be more 'realistic'. The stage show can be more meta, it can go 'lol monster movie', break the 4th wall, involve the audience, etc., without those things seeming like a jarring break from the story. Consequently the cast are given the leeway necessary to keep a sort of manic atmosphere going throughout the show, which compensates for it's otherwise slower second half.
So the movie drags in comparison, but when you watch it with an audience, it's as though they feel obliged to keep the show 'up' in lieu of a live cast. And that doesn't really work out because...

audience members can be fucking annoying

The slow second half is not really a problem with Rocky particularly, as just a general problem with movies that are based on live shows. Although there are exceptions, 'Chicago' for example, avoids this problem because it's effectively a series of song and dance set pieces. And it's not a problem with musicals that were written from the start as movies, like 'Phantom of The Paradise'.

Oh bugger, I've written an essay...

what do KIDS TODAY think of rocky horror? my generation was really into it, but i can see millennials finding it pretty lame.

Gale

i think kids today with their glee and their emo would love it

im 28. i loved the parts with meat loaf, loved its conception of sexuality, which even now would be radical, but overall it was way way too long and didn't have enough good songs or narrative propulsion. but damn, man...find me a movie now that would allow for the idea that sexuality is a fluid continuum and that a generally st8 person could catch a dick now and then...movies are almost never genuinely transgressive nowadays, challops or w/e i know

didn't have enough good songs

ban

{ "What's your favorite rock group?" } Madness { "they suck!" } takes it's toll.

didn't have enough good songs

ban

― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, October 27, 2012 2:29 AM (11 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, right? Every fucking song on that soundtrack is p much amazing - there are literally only 2 that I don't absolutely love. In fact, I'm gonna listen to it this afternoon. Last year a friend and I got stoned and sang pretty much the entire thing from memory at the top of our lungs it was kind of the best night ever.

Also, the phrasing of this "and that a generally st8 person could catch a dick now and then" is killing me.

It always pissed me off that "The Sword of Damocles" and "Planet, Schmanet, Janet" weren't on the soundtrack because they're both really great.

Yes.

They're on the version released in 2000

Oh! I probably bought my CD way way before that. Good to know. :)

creature of the night

This is how to play the long game. (Note all dates of posts.)

https://twitter.com/DrFNFurter

I remember being very excited to get the 25th anniversary CD. It was gold!

MAC released a collection this month in honor of the 40th anniversary. THIS IS RELEVANT TO MANY OF MY INTERESTS.

And . . . it's pretty awesome.

http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10610996_385085264973200_1077230809_a.jpg

ok well I haven't bought makeup in a long time, BUT

http://thequietus.com/articles/18487-rocky-horror-picture-show-anniversary-review

this is great

creature...of the night?

SWITCH

creeeeecha oooo-ooof the niiiiiiiight

Idk why I dislike RHPS so much (the music is good, the camp is fun), but I think I realized last night I mostly just dislike it when seeing it with shadow casts/audience callbacks. the callbacks have gotten so ridiculous over 40 years it's basically wall-to-wall shouting shit of varying hilarity (usually not funny). but by itself, I don't mind it as much (and I actually enjoyed a live performance of it that I saw many years ago).

I remember my first experience with RHPS was when a friend of mine was a cast member with the big monthly production at the local university. I had never seen it before, but he recommended going onto the internet to find a script for all the audience participation parts. I dutifully complied and went through the script, memorizing lines that I thought I could manage, really hoping to make a good impression. At the actual show, it was just total chaos of course, and I quickly gave up with the ad-libs. I went back a few times though, just to see my friend wearing gold lamé underpants or whatever. Have enjoyed it at home on occasion.

I've not seen a performance but did play 'Riff-Raff' in a sort-of version of it, I do have the audience 'par-ti-ci-pation' double album, yeah its not that hlarious..

For the record, I watched Dr. X last night, and he totally didn't build any effing creature. Stupid lying singing mouth.

(Although I guess we didn't see androids fighting Brad and Janet, either, to be fair.)

In anticipation of one of my new work friends playing Magenta in a big upcoming production of the stage show, I rescreened the film other night, and kind of concur with some of the criticisms upthread, primarily about it being frontloaded song-wise.

But why I'm really reviving this thread is that my viewing inspired me last night to take my sealed Big Lots copy of Shock Treatment off the shelf and view for the first time. Not quite the movie that RHPS is, it's still a very interesting and entertaining watch. Fantastic production design, really catches that high style of uber-MTV videos before there was a MTV. It's also cool to see a good bit of the old supporting cast (O'Brien, Quinn, Campbell) get to shine a little brighter on their own terms due to not having a Furter-like totem to orbit around. The songs are unfortunately caught with one foot RHPS glam style ("Little Black Dress" is a pretty transparent "Timewarp" rewrite) and New Wave ("Me Of Me" would have fit seamlessly on a Blondie album, and "Looking For Trade" is convincing Post-Punk).

Just curious if anybody else has any Shock Treatment thoughts, since there really aren't any in this thread.

I love Shock Treatment. I like the music as much if not better than RHPS. It looks amazing and it totally anticipated reality tv. It's pretty sick and more rewarding upon further viewings. That cast too cmon! Jessica Harper!

I watched it in high school, before I was even aware of RHPS. It was very confusing to me and I switched it off halfway through. This is the only part that I can remember:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7BP2Gclzj0

The FOX/Kenny Ortega RHPS remake was such a sad failure btw. They got every detail of the aesthetic wrong. Sadly, even Laverne Cox sucked real bad as Frank. Tried to play it as a Grace Jones-y thing. It was shiny, slick and not fun.

Nooooo, you stop. I thought for sure it would be amazing and not at all a waste of time that nobody was asking for.

Yeah it was not good. Tommy Kail did such an amazing job with Grease Live I had hoped vainly that maybe Ortega could rise to the challenge but... nope

Big whiff

It was just a weird imitation of the movie, but dull & clean & lifeless.
Brad was good tho!

Dana Andrew said prunes
Gave him the runes

That song rules even outside its context, I love how even with all its horniness it's also kinda just a sincere ode to 50's sci fi.

Yes, totally!

yeah i love how over the years it bloomed more with the more movies i saw. when i was a teen king kong was the only one i’d seen (this song was always my favorite)

Right! I still haven’t seen a bunch of them, but at least get the references mostly and looking forward to seeing them one of these days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gmMNOouKdM

this RULES

OMG, so cool!

absolute fucking genius.

insane how much is fully formed at this point. like talk about being ready for your momenf.

“science fiction” sounds a lot more like bowie in its demo form, it’s quite good … but the finished version has an extra layer of sad longing that i love.

makes me question why i labor over so much inconsequential shite

Never noticed the OP until just now.

man, lotta RHPS haters back in the day... loved going to this in high school and experiencing the blessed relief of being the least weird person in the room for a while

i rewatched on sunday night, still as majestic & unhinged as ever <3

curry has a real joie-de-vivre, idk if it’s chemically induced but he seems far more delighted to be there than anyone else

Never noticed the OP until just now.

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Sea androids fighting
Brad and Janet

That’s how I wish it was spelled