Channel 4's GREATEST FILMS EVAH! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Kane will rock in top 4 definately. Its much better when these lists are restricted to types of movies (ie Top 10 Sci-FI movies). And the list is skewed to allow for the odd Godard & Felini. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon will be Top Ten, but not the highest place non-english film. Those are my predictions.

If other movies have been made i do not wish to hear abt it please thankyou

You say this like it's a bad thing.

Bad points:
1. They don't identify her.
2. Other TH = Michael yawngod Caine; Gabriel wake-me-up-when-you-learn-to-act Byrne!?¿¡; John Thompson (who = quite funny as a character actor even in Cold Feet but OH DEAR as regards informed commentary)

Choice = unexceptionable in a Use-Other- Canons stylee. Except for inclusion of THE ITALIAN JOB (cue G.Byrne singing "We Are the Self-Preservation Society", M.Caine informing us that his relatives were gangsters and J.Brown: "In America they had Herbie Rides Again; we had The Italian Job. That says it all."

ps JB's hair has always intrigued me: the subversive critique of all his writing appears to stand for? Here also he's copying no one: and NO ONE'S COPYING HIM!

I like the 'Italian Job' but to rank it above 'Get Carter' seems v. silly to me, and I am dreading the re-confirmation as Star bleeding Wars in the number one spot.

Any list that doesn't have at least four Robert Bresson movies on it is ultimately worthless.

Silly boy.

My sistah went to film school B&TBJ w.director P.Hewitt => give me the turner prize (again)

bttsht ptmkn myrs~I'VE watched it and it's nowt compared to ^those magnificent men in their flying machines^

kermode scared of ^blue velvet^ WTF

The lack of non-US/UK flicks in general invalidates the authenticity of a so-called "best-of" list.

Unfortunately they are nevertheless often sloppily and brainlessly made: but of course this is what allows the good stuff through. PS I totally don't believe "Dumbing Dow"n is in effect: proof, the pre-DumbDown world paid such fealty to sly old frauds like Muggeridge, and ran in fear of M.Whitehouse etc. I'm not saying we're SMARTER now, as Terry Christian might argue; I'm saying, ploo sa shonje

Nothing new on the actual films - but a "Why Star Wars is Shit" TV programme could easily be hustified on this outcome.

Actually a top 100 grossing movies would be interesting until you got to the top 10, particularly if they did that dodge whereby you adjust for inflation and Gone With The Wind takes a trillion dollars.

i am only man in world who finds shawshank redemption "not that great" and i resented it's manipulativeness for some reason (when i quite happily accept it in other fillums, hmmm) shan't watch it again to be persuaded otherwise so yah boo sucks. also godfather = yawn. star wars IS grate and empire suXoR.

So Tom, you think a top 100 list wouldn't be more credible if it was less American/Anglocentric? I disagree.

The ending is all Sunday school metaphor; Robbins going through the long dark tunnel = death; coming out in the sunshine and encountering Freeman on the beach, as a carpenter, building a boat = JC. Prison, of course = metaphor for constrained, regulated life.

And Pat McGoohan did it all in the final episode of "The Prisoner" 25 years previously. Except of course for the boat bit - he just sends the whole story into loop.

Tish and Pish. I R liking that but not S much S Keech and Tollie.

Let's libel/slander Michael Stipe now! Does anyone have any evidence of his serial murders spree circa 1992-1995?

I thought that was Peter Buck. One of my favourite stories of recent times in fact. Especially the way Yahoo tells it <here and here.

Oops. Quite right sir, quite right. My first attempt on ILE at slander and I can't even get the correct chap!

Still, I bet he felt jolly ashamed of himself after that Mr Prosecutor gave him a good telling to.

one of the several things i liked abt C4100 was they asked foax like tony benn to comment (actually of course his opinions on eg brief encounter were vague and foolish and cliched, but i liked that they asked, instead of rollerdexing [sp] the usual suspects)

was it saturday night sunday morning they showed? posh actress getting over-excited because she cd now "act" a raunchy bird from bolton; northern accents 100% see-thru of course, even tho AUTHENTICALLY THE ACCENTS OF THE REGIONS OF THE BIRTH OF SAID THESPIANS!!

Re: The Shawshank Redemption. I used to think it a great film, but saw it again recently with a friend who had never seen it. She relentlessly took the piss out of it, and I had to agree. It's almost a complete pile of crap.

Re: British Cinema. Did anything by Mike Leigh make the grade? Just wondered. The biggest tragedy was though, of course, the exclusion of Gregory's Girl.

Must get over to the channel four site and find out where Annie Hall wound up.

2. I love the Star Wars films as do many of my generation. But 30th tossers don't help matters. Would have been better to see Tony Curtis or Tony Benn (didn't catch him) on Star Wars, than the fools they had.

3. Was long ago invited to free pre-release screening of Shawshank; didn't go; now it returns to haunt me. Incomprehensible: film looks very average from clips. Doubtless Edna is correct on this one.

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"30-sth tossers".

30 x "30-sth tossers" = even worse.

Ah god you can't take these 100 best things seriously! Got a bottle of wine + some fags and watched it and laughed and SWORE AT THE FUCKING ADVERTS EVERY FOUR FILMS and t'was gud. But then I loved the shawshank redemption when I saw it on telly the other month so obv i have dud taste. What we were wondering was WHERE WAS INDIANA JONES??!?!! I mean starwars at no1 but no temple of doom??!?!

Also.... is Brazil a good film? Saw it years ago and was wondering the other week whether it was as good as i remembered.

in principle i wd have liked to see t.benn on star wars, tho i predict i wd have been disappointed
adam & joe cd not decide if they were going to be sad but smart SW-obsessives (possibly interesting, possibly not), or ppl who laugh such: ie good in principle that makers used ppl who know who eg boba fett is, yet then undisciplined enuff to veer back to Tales of Ordinary Maconieness.

I only just read Raging Bulls, Sucking Eggs (or whatever it's called) and it was SURPRISINGLY SIMILAR to this prog.

Briefly forgetting that "The Godfather" existed, as Mr Darabont blabbed on, Pam & I excitedly came to the conclusion that #2 had to be [a] a comedy, [b] 1960s, [c] by a major US director. "Dr Strangelove"! Only 54 places out...

I think people are being a bit silly if they think this list (being a popular vote with some C4 massaging) should've been saturated with Kurosawa, Fassbinder, Godard, Cassavetes, Sirk, yada, yada.

Hands up if you never actually went to see "Star Wars" at the pictures. (I've got my hand up). Hands up if you went to see "Abba: The Movie" instead. (I've not taken it down). At age 9, idea of sci- fi epic without Martin Landau and Barry Morse = not enticing.

Hand down.

has tim robbins EVAH been in a good film? i think NHOTT!!

It was an okay list I suppose.

i can't watch any movie w/o thinking of gynaecologists

wire-fu, black leather overcoats,knunu, mucho guns = yeah 31 should adore it but NONONONO - stodgy even sadiator waz better.

shawshank - all my friends wuvvit but contrary mary doesn't - it's bllx - i don't CONNECT

If Umbrellas of Cherboug is not in the top ten it is shit.