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― amateur!!st, Thursday, 25 November 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 November 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 25 November 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)
josef von sternberg's real name was joseph sternberg--he was born in new york, i think. i guess the germanized spelling convinced everyone he was some distant european genius (well, he was a genius, but anyway).
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 25 November 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― stevie (stevie), Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 25 November 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 25 November 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 25 November 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)
On March 25, 1933, two days after Testament des Dr. Mabuse, Das (1932) was banned, Lang was summoned to the Nazi Ministry of Propaganda to meet with Joseph Goebbels himself. Goebbels explained the reason for the ban (when the Nazi party slogans are fed into the mouth of the villain at the film's conclusion) and apologised to Lang. He then shocked Lang by offering him the position of production supervisor at the UFA studios, where his first film would be a biography of William Tell. Lang suspected a trap and attempted to throw off Goebbels by telling him, "My mother had Jewish parents," to which Goebbels responded, "We'll decide who's Jewish!" Lang then expressed interest in the position and said he needed some time to think it over. That very evening, he boarded a train to Paris, leaving behing most of his money and personal possessions behind, along with his wife, Thea von Harbou, who divorced him later that year and went on to write and direct films for the Nazi propaganda machine.
He's had an amazing life.
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Thursday, 25 November 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 26 November 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 26 November 2004 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Remy (x Jeremy), Friday, 26 November 2004 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― %#, Friday, 26 November 2004 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Masked Gazza, Friday, 26 November 2004 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)
Jules DassinMervyn LeRoyMaya Deren
― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 26 November 2004 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 26 November 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 26 November 2004 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 26 November 2004 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 26 November 2004 04:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 26 November 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Friday, 26 November 2004 05:59 (twenty-one years ago)
...
how did i forget about stiller?
was ulmer jewish? i know he made some yiddish films, but for some reason i thought he wasn't actually jewish, just working as a director-for-hire.
i wonder how many of these folks really identified as jewish. eisenstein certainly didn't; anyway his parents were very assimilated and totally areligious as i understand. vertov's dad ran a hebrew/yiddish bookstore (his real name was david kaufman) and lived through several pograms in bialystock--i think vertov was very marked by jewish culture and jewish radical culture in particular.
there have been other french jewish directors but i'm forgetting now.... obviously jean epstein's sister marie epstein. and i think maybe agnes varda? some of the russian emigres working in paris in the 20s and 30s were jewish, i think maybe meerson? his niece ended up marrying henri langois. i think.
― amateur!!st, Friday, 26 November 2004 06:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Friday, 26 November 2004 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Friday, 26 November 2004 06:10 (twenty-one years ago)
um.... ok.
― amateur!!st, Friday, 26 November 2004 06:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 26 November 2004 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Why Does Herr Dadaismus Run Amok? (Dada), Friday, 26 November 2004 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)
Joel and Ethan CoenGeorge CukorMax FleischerWilliam FriedkinStanley KramerStanley KubrickNorman LearBarry LevinsonDavid MametJoseph MankiewiczPaul MazurskyMax OphulsAlan J. PakulaSidney PollackAbraham PolonskyOtto PremingerMartin RittStuart RosenbergHerbert RossRobert RossenJohn SchlesingerDon SiegelRobert SiodmarkTodd SolondzRobert WiseWilliam WylerRobert ZemeckisFred ZinnemanDavid & Jerry Zucker
― Why Does Herr Dadaismus Run Amok? (Dada), Friday, 26 November 2004 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 26 November 2004 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)
A fiery spinoff of this thread might be anti-Jewish filmmakers...? No, maybe not.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 26 November 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 26 November 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Why Does Herr Dadaismus Run Amok? (Dada), Friday, 26 November 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 26 November 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Why Does Herr Dadaismus Run Amok? (Dada), Friday, 26 November 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)
especially since we're at the point in the thread where dullards like Fred Zinnemann, Barry Levinson and Herbert Ross get called "great"
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 26 November 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Why Does Herr Dadaismus Run Amok? (Dada), Friday, 26 November 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 26 November 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 26 November 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― beanz (beanz), Friday, 26 November 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― beanz (beanz), Friday, 26 November 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 26 November 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― beanz (beanz), Friday, 26 November 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)
xxxpostGood one, beanz. In the book 'On the Rez' by Ian Frazier he discusses hanging out watching Western movies on TV with some Native Americans and they can pretty much identify all the Indian extras by name. So: John Wayne shoots Comanche off horse. Brave bites dust, viewer Indian extends arm, further extends index finger from position encircling beer can to point and say "that's Burgess Red Cloud."
― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 26 November 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 26 November 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 26 November 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)
or that scene in the phillip roth story where the jewish mother searches the list of the deceased in a plane crash for jewish names?
We should also be discussing the levels of their devoutness.
i somehow am guessing that very few if any of these folks are really very hardcore in that respect.
― amateur!!st, Friday, 26 November 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 26 November 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)
or that scene in the phillip roth story where the jewish mother searches the list of the deceased in a plane crash for jewish names?Not the same thing, but you just reminded me of when Humbert Humbert looks over the list of Lolita's classmates and mentions this one: "Irving, for whom I am sorry."
― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 26 November 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 27 November 2004 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)
'Trouble in Paradise' !!!!!!
― Michael White (Hereward), Saturday, 27 November 2004 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)
somewhat related... J Hoberman's 4-part book excerpt on the Hollywood "Jew wave" around 1967-74:
http://www.filmlinc.com/blog/entry/flaunting-it-the-rise-and-fall-of-hollywoods-nice-jewish-bad-boys
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 November 2011 00:34 (fourteen years ago)
Don't know how it'd hold up today, but I liked Joan Micklin Silver's Crossing Delancey when it came out.
― clemenza, Friday, 4 November 2011 00:38 (fourteen years ago)
Is Spike Jonze aka Adam Spiegel Jewish? If so, him.
― moley, Friday, 4 November 2011 01:36 (fourteen years ago)