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Cross America's Next Top Model with House of Style, Unzipped, let Heidi Klum host and you have my new television addiction.

http://www.bravotv.com/Project_Runway/

How does everyone else feel about it? Debut episode aired tonight.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 2 December 2004 04:12 (fifteen years ago) link

could they telegraph a little more? otherwise, it's not terrible.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 2 December 2004 04:18 (fifteen years ago) link

AWESOME

I watched the debut episode twice. Yes, was really obvious what was coming, and if they hadn't gotten rid of that guy I'd have had to reconsider watching any more b/c I couldn't stand to listen to him talk.

The fashion world reminds me of academe. At least the people look good.

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

+Heidi Klum, etc.

Jimmy Mod always makes friends with women before bedding them down (ModJ), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Heidi Klum! She's a robot! Zero warmth/humanity. Awesome.

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 2 December 2004 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

She's German and built like 105 lbs of gold shit, of course she's got no warmth, what do you want?

Jimmy Mod always makes friends with women before bedding them down (ModJ), Thursday, 2 December 2004 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

My wife went to FIT for a year and was friends with Austin, the guy who won the first round with the cornhusk dress. She says that he drank milk and coke all the time.

Nemo (JND), Thursday, 2 December 2004 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link

milk + coke?

drank milk and did coke?

still bevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 2 December 2004 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Austin is a neat guy. I like him. I'm afraid he's going to have a massive bug out and get tossed one week, though, he seems awfully nervous & some of the other people are just cool professionals who may never do anything spectacular but they won't crash and burn either.

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 2 December 2004 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

austin seems like an isaac mizrahi type of person. and plus, i kind of went for the wilted corhusk thing. a real genius would have worked it.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 2 December 2004 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Milk and Coca-Cola mixed together. Perhaps the caffeine was making Austin nervous and the milk wasn't enough to take the edge off. I thought his dress and the one made from the blue lawn chair were the best.

I was really glad to see the "follow your bliss" guy eliminated, though I thought Starr's garish dress was worse. And I can barely understand anything Heidi Klum says.

Anyway, I'll be rooting for Austin, of course, due to my one degree of separation.

Nemo (JND), Thursday, 2 December 2004 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Starr's dress was just about as bad.. but somehow the arrogance of follow-yr-bliss guy was worse, plus the tacky aluminum foil edging on that paper jacket! arrrrgh!

Austin's dress was super. I was convinced he was going to whiff it completely when I saw him trying to weave that stuff together, and then poof! next scene he's got this amazing design. I liked the lawnchair thing too.

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 2 December 2004 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

didn't laverne of laverne and shirley drink milk and pepsi mixed? also, i have an irrational and quite visceral hatred of heidi klum.

Emilymv (Emilymv), Thursday, 2 December 2004 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link

starr is going to be voted off soon, no doubt. especially if she keeps up this mousy flower no confidence schtick -- i mean, did you see her body language at the end of the show?

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 2 December 2004 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I know! I honestly thought she was going to start writhing around on the ground in front of the judges and crying, like she did backstage.

Nemo (JND), Thursday, 2 December 2004 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

the crybaby schtick isnt going to work past round two. plus, looking at her work online, i dont think she's got the chops - everything on her portfolio looks like a sailor moon outfit.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 2 December 2004 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

also, jay went to school in philly. lots of people have thrown him out of their parties.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 2 December 2004 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
week three: starr is finally gone!

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 23 December 2004 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link

repeat, boo

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 23 December 2004 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I KNOW.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 23 December 2004 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link

that girl is going to kill herself

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 23 December 2004 04:59 (fifteen years ago) link

yes, these people are all actors and fake and let's poke at them with forceps

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 23 December 2004 05:06 (fifteen years ago) link

i wish i could tell you starr was an actor but i ran into dozens of people just like her in art school -- meek little girls who liked to draw and thought that they could be an artist, until they had to deal with critiques, when they realized they lacked vision and a spine.

watching project runway reminds me of the crits i had when i was a graphic design program, except with scary ugly germans and no background music.

lastly: doesnt the closing music of the show sound like "stay dont go" by spoon? im totally convinced they sampled the beatboxing part of it.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 23 December 2004 13:17 (fifteen years ago) link

but she's not in art school; she's a corporate lawyer.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 23 December 2004 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link

what is up w/no new episodes until 1/5? is this because the ratings are horrendous?

poor Starr. I sympathize in a way w/what happens when you drop someone in a totally new environment w/entirely different rules & start ratcheting up the pressure. if she works really hard on the craft she may eventually produce some good designs.

as long as Austin, Kara, and Robert make the last rounds I am content. Jay is one of those people that looks out for lines you should never cross in social situations & soon enough he'll start barging right across them. Kevin is a rockist.

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 23 December 2004 13:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm rooting for Austin, Wendy and the short-haired girl, though Austin is the only one I like. I hate Jay but I have to say I liked the art deco dress a lot.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 23 December 2004 14:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Nora, "the punk," maybe? She's funny. I noticed how she slyly implied how uncool the last project was by pointing out that all the people from her hometown in Connecticut wore Banana Republic. I don't like Wendy's stuff, it's kind of meh at best. Austin is fabulous indeed though I wonder what happens if he gets another challege where something super.. uh.. fantastical simply won't do? Robert's design for episode 2 was hilarious and he's great on TV, so they had better not get rid of him early.

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 23 December 2004 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, Nora. I don't really like Wendy's stuff either. I think I like her hair. I've barely paid attention to Robert. The Brazilian girl or whatever is pretty good too.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 23 December 2004 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Alexandra.. well.. her stuff is pretty, you know, it's clothes for young professional women who drink cosmopolitans at lounges with one-word non sequitur names, etc. Robert is just the hotness. I would wear Nora's stuff, that's more my cup of tea - she has a funny t-shirt at the project runway store with fish hooks printed on it, which I would buy in a minute if it weren't yellow. Can't wear yellow.

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 23 December 2004 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Poor Starr. Aren't corporate lawyers supposed to be ruthless and tough? Does she act like that in the courtroom?

Nemo (JND), Thursday, 23 December 2004 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

but she's not in art school; she's a corporate lawyer.

-- gabbneb (gabbne...), December 23rd, 2004. (gabbneb) (link)

whoa, like i totally did not realize this fact! was it mentioned on the show?!

seriously though, thats what makes her compelling. i mean, she's a lawyer and she cant last through a critique, which is not unlike being on trial.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 23 December 2004 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link

alexandra's work is very nice and pretty, but its not challenging at all. everything has been constructed out of the same shape.

austin is way too costumey and wont compromise his ideals for specific projects [his dress for #3 was too springlike for a winter collection].

i tagged jay as crashing and burning early because he wouldnt be able to adapt to the challenges at hand, but this hasnt been the case. dont count him out just yet.

kara's work is very thought out and incredibly well executed -- i could see her being the winner.

i dont know what to make of kevin. his responses to everything has been really well done. definately will be there until the end, unless something disastrous happens.

i kind of find nora's work to be too hip at times. cutting down large segments of the population is not going to help her business down the line.

robert's work is awful, just as cliched and contrived as starr's stuff, but in a different way. no wonder he divorced his wife and came back to the states -- just by the kinds of things he's put women in, the guy has no understanding of the opposite sex. men's suits? fake fur? what the fuck? i dont think he'll last much longer. by the promos ive seen for the next episode, supposedly he cracks his head open on a sidewalk after showing off how macho he is. serves him right.

vanessa, hm, another one i cant quite pin down. solid work but seems like an incredibly shitty person other wise. im sure that will bite her in the ass.

wendy could win this -- she made her mistakes early and is now being very careful about what she does. but who knows?

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 23 December 2004 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I could see Kara winning indeed.. Kevin, no, he seems to be just going through the motions and never likely to hit on a really fresh idea, which means he'll prob last at least couple more rounds but won't be one of the top 3 or 4 at the end.

I like suits! If I were to seriously take the time to learn how to make anything, it'd be a really well tailored suit. Someday.. And yeah, Robert comes off as having plenty of cliched & ridiculous ideas about women. I figured there had to be a layer of irony to that, but maybe I'm just giving him wayyy too much benefit of the doubt b/c he is really good looking (and maybe that's yr layer of irony right there).

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 23 December 2004 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Also the suit from ep #2 looked strangely like something AUSTIN would wear! now that was weird. I am so entertained by these people.

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 23 December 2004 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link

this is really the best show on tv.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 23 December 2004 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

after watching three episodes in a row I got really tired of hearing Heidi say "fashion is all about whether your eeiiinn, or you are ouuuut". but i still love you heidi, it's okay.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 23 December 2004 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link

yes, it's totally the best thing on TV. now I am so afraid they'll kick off all the most interesting people in the next couple rounds and then I'll be all disappointed with the finals. but maybe they'll find a reason to bring back the people that got cut.

also, Tim rules it. I adore him. He should have his own show.

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 23 December 2004 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I like Heidi's presence because it makes clear how unattractive she is. I like Tim too. I agree that Alexandra's work is totally unchallenging, but she also hasn't made any mistakes yet.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 23 December 2004 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

also, i anticipate an amazing catfight between austin and jay.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 23 December 2004 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

wow

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 23 December 2004 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone watching? do you think that they're going to axe off a group of people with this team project?

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:24 (fifteen years ago) link

during West Wing commercials. has the tear-inducing development occurred yet?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:29 (fifteen years ago) link

nora is fucking crazy.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:38 (fifteen years ago) link

oh i get it - the team is going to vote a member out?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:44 (fifteen years ago) link

so I was right? Austin got rid of Vanessa? really hard to see the latter part coming.

"Cotton is the official fabric of Project Runway"

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 03:00 (fifteen years ago) link

whoa. i really thought nora was going to go this round, especially after she lost her shit.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 6 January 2005 03:01 (fifteen years ago) link

it's pretty clear that they picked a few people who didn't belong to sacrifice in the first few weeks while the show built its audience

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link

wow, you really think so?! i never thought for a second that the programming might be rigged to maintain the audiences interest.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 6 January 2005 03:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Hah. There's a little blurb in the end credits about how the eliminations are made based on the judges' decision and input from producers etc.

I wonder if the ratings are any better for this episode. I was like jumping up and down, I was so excited that it was back on the air.

I still am not fond of Kevin but he behaved better this week. That singer! Ouch! Can we not have any more goth-lolita-gone-bad business ever again? Jay's outfit was the best by a mile, minus that awful skirt thing.

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 6 January 2005 03:34 (fifteen years ago) link

hey, I don't usually watch this sort of thing

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 03:37 (fifteen years ago) link

EP 4 SPOLIER

It was quite clear that Esther was the winner of that but that they couldn't make her win again three times out of four.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 23:11 (one month ago) link

seems obvious that esther is going to win the whole thing unless the avant garde guy steps it up a bit

akm, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 23:18 (one month ago) link

what really needs to stop is the Heidi and Tim hanging out interludes, which it goes without saying are total shite, we just need more Naiomi and her lack of filter. There are literally zero people watching this that want to watch those.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 22:34 (one month ago) link

(those H&T 'ludes)

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 22:34 (one month ago) link

Oh I like the interludes! But I have so much affection for Tim doing, well, anything. The Heidi and Chiara one was rubbish

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 23:11 (one month ago) link

I mean... obviously these interludes would be 100% better if they replaced Heidi with Naomi and Tim with a Nokia 3310 handset

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 23:12 (one month ago) link

I like Sander but he seems to be taking a stupidly long time working out how the avant brands exist. Comme des Garcons don't make money by selling cocoon dresses with mad bulges and no armholes. We know all the other things they do to build their brand and it's sometimes inside out suiting in plaid and it's even sometimes converse plimsolls or t-shirts with hearts-with-eyes at £120.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 23:57 (one month ago) link

to steer it back to Project Runway proper, I've watched the last two seasons and honestly, since it's gone back to Bravo, it's been as good as it's ever been? I really like Brandon Maxwell and this may be recency bias talking, and I know this might be heresy to most, but Christian Siriano might be a better mentor than Tim Gunn ever is/was? He's a lot less paternal/father figure-like (which I know goes against being a mentor for some), gives more practical advice, and knows when to push the designers to be pragmatic or take risks when necessary, which I honestly don't remember Tim Gunn ever doing

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 23 April 2020 00:39 (one month ago) link

From a purely teaching perspective I don’t think that Christian is a good mentor at all; but that being said I really like him on the show

Tim was so great at problem solving but also getting the designer to come to the better solution WITH him, rather than just telling them it sucks or it’s good. It’s an underrated skill. And he made ppl feel good even when they were failing.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 April 2020 01:26 (one month ago) link

FYI

I watched the last two episodes.

Let me know when we can *talk*

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 24 April 2020 18:00 (one month ago) link

I've watched the penultimate episode and I am too angry to talk

boxedjoy, Friday, 24 April 2020 19:27 (one month ago) link

i feel like Christian doesn't get the respect from the designers that he deserves.

Yerac, Friday, 24 April 2020 19:31 (one month ago) link

I've now watched the final and I am not impressed at all!

Also the last two minutes of this was like the end of an early noughties episode of Big Brother

boxedjoy, Friday, 24 April 2020 20:02 (one month ago) link

I've watched the penultimate episode and I am too angry to talk

― boxedjoy, Friday, 24 April 2020 19:27 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Totally.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 24 April 2020 20:52 (one month ago) link

well these posts are helping narrow down our forthcoming fashion fix to just the Siriano PR haha

imago, Friday, 24 April 2020 20:59 (one month ago) link

this is why you should stomach Tan and Alexa, folks: they give you what you want

imago, Friday, 24 April 2020 21:00 (one month ago) link

the main problem with PR is that the episodes are way way way too long.

Yerac, Friday, 24 April 2020 21:00 (one month ago) link

even the new one?

imago, Friday, 24 April 2020 21:02 (one month ago) link

*SPOILERS*

So, Sander should not have gone after the pop-up-shop challenge, he totally switched up his whole game. Then he should not have won over Esther. Did they just want an American winner? It's the only possible explanation, imo.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 26 April 2020 01:15 (four weeks ago) link

he=Jonnie.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 26 April 2020 01:16 (four weeks ago) link

the "Hungry 4 Success" messaging and cutlery print (!) was probably the fastest I have ever been drained of goodwill to a reality show contestant ever, what a truly awful direction to go in

boxedjoy, Sunday, 26 April 2020 14:25 (four weeks ago) link

Sander showing versatility, high-fashion looks, commercial appeal, a USP to his pop-up and a willingness to adapt over the season, all made me think this was a set-up. I've seen clothes that were like Johnny's but nicer in the Zara sale.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 26 April 2020 14:27 (four weeks ago) link

I did laugh when the woman from Amazon turned up in that bright floral print though - Esther had no chance!

boxedjoy, Sunday, 26 April 2020 14:28 (four weeks ago) link

i'm interested in how egregious this was compared to, say, Gretchen beating Mondo on PR, then a few years later turning out to be grifting a living as a life-coach charging $800/h

also we're watching the first Siriano series from last year no spoilers plsss it's good tho

imago, Sunday, 26 April 2020 14:36 (four weeks ago) link

"i'm interested in how egregious this was compared to, say, Gretchen beating Mondo on PR, then a few years later turning out to be grifting a living as a life-coach charging $800/h" I didn't know about that!

I finally watched this. I see why they didn't go with Esther but I disagree with it. It was purely a commercial choice. They were worried she wouldn't want to dilute her aesthetic for mass production.

akm, Sunday, 26 April 2020 14:41 (four weeks ago) link

anyway, in general I still liked this more than recent PR but they have got to turn to the fucking music down next time.

akm, Sunday, 26 April 2020 14:42 (four weeks ago) link

xpost looking online the PR episodes from season 8 onward are a little over 60 minutes as opposed to ~40 minutes. That is way too much filler.

Yerac, Sunday, 26 April 2020 15:27 (four weeks ago) link

grr last year's PR (only halfway through!) is starting to severely overrate the one designer I'm kind of aesthetically opposed to. they did a video game character challenge and just handed her the win even though the other two at the top were entirely and demonstrably better. why did they have to keep Nina around lol

imago, Monday, 27 April 2020 09:30 (four weeks ago) link

oh yeah Hester's thing was super tiresome.

Yerac, Monday, 27 April 2020 13:33 (four weeks ago) link

thank GOD she did not win (although her final runway contained arguably her best work of the series), still would have preferred to see Bishme's runway

anyway

the winner was ordained from the second episode of the series onward. tt and i looked at each other. he was the one

imago, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 00:41 (three weeks ago) link

onto the 2019/2020 season next I guess! no spoilers pretty please. keep spoilering how ghastly Making The Cut was though, I'm enjoying it

imago, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 00:42 (three weeks ago) link

omfg both the winner and the elimination in Episode 2 of the latest PR season are so awful I'd almost call it a shark-jump. yeah they can redeem themselves when Devlin hopefully wins the series but Marquise was I so not kid probably my least favourite look and he took the damn thing, and Veronica is a better designer than at least half the room. absolutely insane taste-level fail from the entire judging panel

again, please no spoilers, but omg

imago, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:43 (three weeks ago) link

lol I guess those were spoilers from me tho. uh-oh

imago, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:44 (three weeks ago) link

what is the JUDGING in this season wtf

imago, Friday, 1 May 2020 01:04 (three weeks ago) link

delvin and brittany sitting there 'safe' open-mouthed while the horrifyingly-restored marquise is, somehow, one of the TOP looks is kind of iconic tbf but really, what absolute trash

imago, Friday, 1 May 2020 01:05 (three weeks ago) link

this series is solid-gold cast-iron bullshit

imago, Saturday, 2 May 2020 15:13 (three weeks ago) link

yeah, i wasn't a fan. and aren't the episodes entirely too long?

Yerac, Saturday, 2 May 2020 16:30 (three weeks ago) link

they are but the main problem is that they keep liking stuff by absolutely shitty designers, they brought back Marquise and his TERRIBLE boring aesthetic because Dayoung dropped out and now he has OUTLASTED Delvin I am fucking outraged also Sergio is the biggest cunt they've ever had on the show and Nancy is starting to irritate me and I have some time for Victoria but she should have gone instead of Delvin and basically Delvin is the best and if the winner isn't one of Geoffrey or Brittany then frankly I am dead

imago, Saturday, 2 May 2020 16:34 (three weeks ago) link

it is *outrageous* that on this season of extremely mediocre designers, Delvin has finished 7th

imago, Saturday, 2 May 2020 16:35 (three weeks ago) link

have you ever watched the old project runways from australia or canada? they are so much better than the new season.

Yerac, Saturday, 2 May 2020 16:40 (three weeks ago) link

no...but let alone that, S17 was so much better than this season! and it had goddamn Hester in it the whole way!

imago, Saturday, 2 May 2020 16:42 (three weeks ago) link

oh wow i loved the australia one. it was so campy.

Yerac, Saturday, 2 May 2020 16:53 (three weeks ago) link

lol Australia does a few things better tbf (Married At First Sight being the pinnacle)

imago, Saturday, 2 May 2020 16:57 (three weeks ago) link

Delvin is the only person to have been eliminated in the past 3 episodes. This is NONSENSE

imago, Sunday, 3 May 2020 01:37 (three weeks ago) link

Delvin and Chelsey the only two to have been eliminated for 5 episodes!

imago, Sunday, 3 May 2020 01:37 (three weeks ago) link

i kind of want to say you could just skip to the end. because it was not a great season at al.

Yerac, Sunday, 3 May 2020 01:58 (three weeks ago) link

ding ding ding

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 May 2020 01:59 (three weeks ago) link

the show went from awful to amazing during the final elimination for some reason and a great final, so um...otm :)

imago, Monday, 4 May 2020 01:49 (three weeks ago) link

we had to wade through an awful lot of NONSENSE to get there though!

imago, Monday, 4 May 2020 01:49 (three weeks ago) link

if this isn't too great a spoiler, was *amazed* by how good Nancy was by the end

imago, Monday, 4 May 2020 01:50 (three weeks ago) link


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