Memento

So when's Carrie Anne Moss getting more roles where she's not Keanu's love toy? Preferably in flicks NOT involving Mars.

There are a few similar motivational problems with Memento which can be excused due to the genre of film it is (Teddy is never more than a cypher) - but I really enjoyed it and thought it was virtuoso film- making, and in particular, writing.

I did enjoy the film BTW -- certainly one of the better films i've seen in the last year or so -- but i'm damn positive there was something that didn't ring right with the plot mechanics. it's bugging me now.

Which might be Alan's plot hole to be fair because if he killed his wife in the way suggested by the flashback section then the whole reason why he got the condition (brain bash by wife killers) never happened.

But as for Pete's idea of the injury never happening - if the twist ending was that if it was *his* wife that was the diabetic and Sammy's (the guy he'd been insurance investigating), then I think we are also to assume that he's personifying other aspects of his own problem as Sammy's. Specifically that the short term memory loss was determined to be psychological not physical in nature. I think that's the idea anyway.

An ok movie... I felt oddly indifferent while watching it tho.

I don't believe he killed his wife. But either way, biggest prob for me was how Natalie treats Leonard. When she sees him in her boyfriend's car and clothes she's all 'wtf!' but when she learns of his condition it's as though she suddenly doesn't care that her boyfriend is missing and Leonard has apparently nicked all his stuff. Yeah she manipulates him but she still ends up helping him, and never goes "where is my boyfriend you fucking retard!". Maybe she hated her bf but the script gives no indication of that (apart from showing him to be a drug-dealing douche).

Still, dope film, great idea and superbly executed - aside from minor misgivings like above.

i've never seen an argument for him killing his wife?

pretty sure natalie is tryin to find out about her bf, but i need to see this again obviously (see above).

killing his wife = sammy jankis is a confabulation, it was leonard's wife who had diabetes and him who gave her the multiple shots. "revealed" to leonard by teddy at the end (beginning).

also there's a subliminal flash of leonard in place of sammy at the asylum, at the conclusion of sammy's story.

oh yeah kinda remembering the shots thing now, and his wife being csi girl. must watch again- got this for xmas actually

(Teddy is never more than a cypher)

― Pete, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00

ISWYDT

I watched this for the first time in a while. It still holds up as entertainment, but it made less sense to me than ever before. So Lenny is in pursuit of "JG," right? And Teddy has been exploiting his condition to trick him into killing ... people with the initials "JG?" And if Teddy planted the information that the big bad was a guy with the initials "JG," why would he choose his own (real) initials? I feel like I'm missing something here.

There's also a shot of Lenny with his wife (in color) where he has "I've Done It" tattooed on his chest. Is this a made-up memory? Obviously he doesn't have "I've done it" tattooed on his chest for the rest of the film, so that must either be a flash-forward fantasy (?) or a fake memory, like a dream? It's all pretty blurry to me.

Oh, and why would Sammy's/Lenny's wife even need his help for insulin shots?