so you think you are computer master guy!?

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please remind me what you type in the "run" feild when you are trying to alter your system in windows, IE. stop certain programs from staring up when you start your computer? i cant for the life of she remember! its flappin up me tonsil

Mike Hanle y 3000 (hanle y 3000), Saturday, 1 January 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago) link

msconfig

donna (donna), Saturday, 1 January 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago) link

"regedit"?

m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 1 January 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago) link

No, it is Donna's, assuming it's a PC, then the startup tab.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 1 January 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago) link

format C:

Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 1 January 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, it's "msconfig" and then the startup tab.

Of course this depends on which operating system you're using. It'll work in Win98 and ME and XP, but for some reason not in Win2000.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Saturday, 1 January 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago) link

This should work for all (post Windows 3.1) MS operating systems.

Run "regedit" from the Start->Run dialog.

Navigate to:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion

The keys in this node hold all the programs that are run for the currently logged in user at startup. Deleting them in the right hand pane of regedit will stop them running at startup. Make sure you know what you're doing and don't delete the whole run node.

Also, programs can be installed for all users at startup. These are located in:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion

Same approach applies for this. Hope this helps.

KeithW (kmw), Saturday, 1 January 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I've always used the regedit.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 1 January 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago) link

(By "always" I mean "the one time I wanted to change the startup registry")

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 1 January 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago) link

Worth pointing out that msconfig is fine and is the safer option if it exists on your OS... Messing with the registry is not advised if you don't know what you're doing; you'll likely break your computer by changing values for fun.

Additionally though, startup programs can be run by placing them in the Startup folder on your Programs menu. There can be two of these; one for all users and the other for the currently logged in user.

KeithW (kmw), Saturday, 1 January 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago) link

I guess I'll use this thread to ask a boring computer question...
I bought an external HD (160gb) two months ago and it has an increasing tendency to freeze, especially when using iTunes (all my mp3s are on it). When that happens I have to reboot.
My motherboard is newish, 256mb memory, so it would seem weird if it couldn't handle an external HD.
Any tips?

Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Sunday, 2 January 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago) link

Need more data, first...are you running Windows or Mac? And is the external drive running over USB 2.0 or FireWire? And is the external drive a brand-name (Maxtor, Seagate, LaCie) or is it a store brand or an do-it-yourself enclosure?

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 2 January 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago) link

Can I just say this is one of the best thread titles ever? I can readily imagine Mike's righteous indignation.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 January 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago) link

I'm just going to say "No and I have never thought that".

MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 2 January 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago) link

Your hard drive problem sounds more like just faulty connections, or alternatively duff data on the disk and the OS is having problems reading it. Is it always on the same tracks? If so, it's likely duff data. You'll need to scrub it and re-rip it.

Is it always when using iTunes or does it happen at other times too?

Beyond that, it's a difficult problem to solve. Check that all the connections are sound.

Additionally, if it's XP/2000/NT, have a look in the Event log.

To do this, Select Start->Run and type eventvwr Click on both System and application nodes on the left hand side and see if any error reports coincide with the times of your failures. If so, post them here and we can have a look. It's not all that likely with a hang, since it's likely hung before it realised there was a problem, but worth a shot.

Hope that's of some use.

KeithW (kmw), Sunday, 2 January 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago) link

where can i get free roms for MAME on the internet?

julia solanz, Sunday, 2 January 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

I like to think of myself more as a sort of computer bachelor boy, since I don't have an MSc. Cliff Richard would be proud.

KeithW (kmw), Sunday, 2 January 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago) link

keith you are my hero

ken c (ken c), Monday, 3 January 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago) link

and i'm not even cliff richard

ken c (ken c), Monday, 3 January 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago) link

I am not indignified! I say msconfig is nullshit! why make it ms and non sysconfig! am I a sysconfag for wanting that! ms means mikrosopht! why??

Mike Hanle y 3000 (hanle y 3000), Monday, 3 January 2005 04:29 (twenty years ago) link

thank you for ye helpo- i am not really so mean...

Mike Hanle y 3000 (hanle y 3000), Monday, 3 January 2005 04:31 (twenty years ago) link

If I remember correctly, I think msconfig is one of these unsupported tools that were knocked up by Microsoft employees in their spare time. Other tools like perfmon and sysmon don't have an MS tacked on. I suspect it didn't go through the usual channels of usability testing that MS stuff normally does go through, so I wouldn't want to blame it on the so-called "evil" of Microsoft.

Ken; you are my personal hero too. I'm not Cliff Richard either; however, right at the moment, I am wired for sound.

KeithW (kmw), Monday, 3 January 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks for the tips!
It's actually a USB 2.0 Iomega HD. The connections seem fine.
It freezes at random moments I'd say, mostly with SlSk or iTunes (but not always with the same tracks). It doesn't have any problems running programs though.

Here's what I found in the event log. I think it coresponds to the last time it stalled.:

The General Purpose USB Driver (adildr.sys) service failed to start due to the following error:
The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it.

Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 10:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Hi Baaderonixxx,

What you now need I think is a topic called "So you think you are the French master guy"!

I am assuming you are French, from the name, and from the fact that looking into this problem returns almost exclusively French responses.

Trouble is, I have only a vague high school understanding of French (apologies / embarrassment), but there are a number of references to your problem out there.

It's unlikely that the failure to start the service coincided with your failure, since all services start automatically at Windows' startup time; whilst it's possible to start them on the fly automatically, it's highly unlikely due to the asynchronous nature of starting a service. It does seem likely that it's related. It does seem likely, if not conclusive that it's a driver issue.

Here's a link that might help if I could read it! But have a search on google for adlidr.sys and see what you can find. Sorry I can't be more help.

http://www.surcouf.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=603&PN=3

KeithW (kmw), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 11:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey Keith,
Thanks a lot for answering. I am indeed French.
I'm reading these French pages, but it seems most of them deal with people having problems getting their external HD to work.
Mine works most of the time but seems to give up when too many applications are withdrawing information from it or when I skip songs quickly on iTunes. I thought it could be a memory problem, but I'm pretty ignorant about these things...
Anyway, thanks a lot Keith, I'll keep looking

Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Hi Computer guy!
My biggest question is this: how can I get "a friend" to stop using the computer to surf and post to message boards and start using it to, you know, edit files and compile and link programs?

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Why is it that sometimes when I right click on a .JPG file (on Internet Explorer) and try 'Save As..' it reverts to attempting to save the file as a .BMP file ?

Is it a security thing, how do I stop it?

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 11 February 2005 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

i found a temporary solution for it a while back by googling. it re-occurred tho. the best thing to do is switch browsers.

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Friday, 11 February 2005 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link

can you rename it (and add a jpg ext)? bmp is also a file format, if i remember correctly. shouldn'tbe a problem to open it.

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Friday, 11 February 2005 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Clear your cache.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 11 February 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah this is some particularly bizarre cache problem that makes no logical sense at all.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link

if I try and manually add the .jpg the file still saves as a .bmp file, I know it's still a valid file but for the sake of not having to convert all my bmps to jpgs I would rather it be solved. I will try the cache clearing technique tonight, anyone know why it does this?

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

built-in porn governor

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link

don't use internet explorer. How many times must this be said?

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, regarding the original thread question: "regedit" is the correct answer. It's true that you can screw up your computer if you're not careful, but most things that you'd want to yank out of your startup registry are clearly labelled ("QuickTime," etc.).

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link

And really, I highly recommend yanking some stuff out of your startup registry. My computer used to take 3 or four minutes to start up, now about 30 seconds, just from not having a bunch of crap that I never use open in the background every time I turn the damn thing on.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link

If anyone can give me a direct link to a free download of a better browser, i would appreciate that. for Windows 98.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, regarding the original thread question: "regedit" is the correct answer.

Dangit, Kenan, we've already gone over this. regedit will do the job if you really really know what you're doing, but as you mention, it can royally fuck up your system. "msconfig" is the much safer choice, and it does exactly what hanle y was asking.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link

msconfig does alter your registry anyway, it just allows you to do it in a friendly way.

Notice the keys in the startup tab.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Exactly. The only reason I'd ever recommend people go tinkering directly in regedit is if their computer is already screwed up royally and it's the only way to fix things. For a user who's not a "computer master guy", using regedit is more likely to cause you to break something than to fix anything.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never used msconfig. I'll be quiet now.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
I've upgraded to the new version of Firefox 1.5 from 1.0.9 (I think). Now in the history sidebar, every page I've looked at is listed rather than just each website. So instead of a tab for ILM and ILE there are the thirty or so pages I've looked at today. I think I've got to alter something in the about:config page but I'm not sure what, does any one know?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

See where there is a buttom that says "View"? Click it and choose "By site" or "By date and site." I would imagine it defaulted you to another sort order.

mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, now that I look at it, I think the view by site may be broken...

mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link

mike h, you're right. Cheers.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link


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