Barbarella: Classic or Dud?

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We were watching it last night, I mean what the hell? Soft core porn disguised as sci fi? A brilliant achievement? What's the matter with Duran Duran that they got two songs referencing this film AND a name based on this rubbish? Good lord.

Also, bonus: cast a remake! BRITNEY SPEARS!

Ally, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It may well be soft core porn disguised as sci fi, but it happens to be soft core porn disguised as sci fi I like. I haven't thought about this film in ages, but I never got anything other than joy out of it. Remake must star Blu Cantrell.

Nick, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ally, how can you even ask this?

It is one of the best films ever made. EVER. Yes, it is soft core porn disguised as sci fi, combined with brilliant social parody of the sexual revolution and The Pill. And a little bit of Philosophy In The Boudoir thrown in for good measure.

And Anita Pallenberg...

What more could you WANT in a film?

It is one of my three favourite films of all time along with Performance and erm... I forget what the third one is.

Classic. I will whump the arse of anyone who dares disagree with me.

And oh yes, Duran references up the Ying Yang.

"An angel cannot make love... an angel IS love!"

kate, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Let me make love to you!" And of course, the theme song.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

KlassiK,KlassiK, UltrafuckingKlasik! I'd love to be awfully rich to order a bespoke Barbarella costume. Can I cast myself?

PSWhat Twisterella is referred to? (Ride's song). Not related with Barbarella, is it?

Laetitia, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Recast, hm. Britney is a compelling choice, to be sure. Sarah Michelle Gellar?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Twisterella was a song in Billy Liar, was it not? That predates Barbarella by about a decade, so I don't think we can pin that on Ride, as well.

Remake would star whasserface chick out of Buffy. Sarah Michelle Gellar. Oh yes. She is one of the few people who could pull of the faux naif thing effectively.

kate, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Entire plot function of SMG evah = only mentalist dweebs wd want sex with her

mark s, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Whatever are you saying, Mark? ;-) Kate and I said it, so it must be true. OF COURSE.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wow, Ned, great minds think alike! Mark S, you are wrong. SMG = HOT! I want her to play the lead in the Deep Field/Loving In A World Of Desire trilogy when and if it ever gets televised...

kate, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Plus, mentalist dweebs are EXACTLY the sort of audience Barbarella needs! So score on every level!

kate, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The whole soundtrack album is class, as is the Cherry Orchard song about it.

Ally C, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

score on NO points: SMG haffing much sex w.everything that moves man woman robot = not convincing, hence collapse of barbarella concept

yes yes the audience who cares abt them? audience for BUFFY = *not* mentalist dweebs but clevah cultured higher-echelon creative thingummys, because they recognise skill and aptness of main character being turn-off fencepost in the ooh-la-la dept

mark s, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's absolute rubbish. Anyone who says otherwise frightens me a bit. We had a good laugh though, especially at that Angel.

Ally, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Barbarella is super classic. Even if its the most uncomfortable moment in my life.

Roommate and I rent the movie, Xgf randomly shows up with beer so she stays and watches movie we all start in on beer. Girl I had been dating for about two weeks brings over a sock I had lost at her house. Xgf offers for her to stay and watch movie, gf decides to stay and the rest of the movie I have two girls studying me to try and figure out what my relationship to the other is. The worst part was it wasnt even hidden, it was outright nerve raking. Luckily gf is sane and realise Im just friends with the X and we continue to have wonderful time together till she leaves for Japan.

Mr Noodles, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

golly ally i thought you were gunning for BtVS for a second, what with that capital-A angel (i know you disdain buffy also, but not with quite such dispatch)

mark s, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think some of the dialogue is quite funny, but it's a bit silly, really. I liked it when I was 14. (See also: The Wicker Man)

Norman Phay, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I made a Pygar shirt. It says "I will 'help him fly' someday." It is the Greatest Movie of All Time.

1 1 2 3 5, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think Fox Mulder or Jay Ferguson should play the part of the angel, after all it took him how long to realize Scully/Chris had the hots for him? I can only recommend Xena in Anita's role but I know there must be better. Buffy would be wonderful in the role of Barberalla. The snapping dolls should be replaced by snapping fish and the fur trapper type character should be replaced with Joel "BJM" Gion.

Mr Noodles, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Few things are so classic. That you had a good laugh says something. You'd fall asleep before you could laugh the whole way through Orgy of the Dead.

sundar subramanian, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I haven't seen it for years, I couldn't say.

DG, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Barbarella is very pretty (well - she is) but politically it is so naive that its arch camp construction crumbles under the weight of its own pretension.

(I've been wanting to say that for years). And it is quite boring. It would be much better with kung fu in it.

Of course Drew Barrymore is remaking it in the near future.

Pete, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Babs is a good film, but not really a classic. It's one of those films that you remember as being a classic 'till you watch it again, then you are slightly disappointed by the fact that it doesn't quite live up to the memory you have of it.
Also see: Flash Gordon, which is on similar overly arch/camp lines, and I think the better movie (though I could be wrong of course. A re-watching might change that opinion).
Still: Princess Aurora = Oh blimey! :D

DavidM, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Flash Gordon is a much better movie because it has an ace soundtrack, and a rollicking good plot - as well as attractive ladies in skimpy outfits.Also because the plankl of wood who played Flash was never in anything else again, he = Flash.

Pete, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three years pass...
OH SO CLASSIC

B's "sex" scene w/ David Hemmings = Great moment of cinema

Masked Gazza, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahahaha I remember nothing of this movie now except for our abject disappointment upon finally watching it.

Allyzay do not obtain to make download of yours MP3 (allyzay), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

because the plankl of wood who played Flash was never in anything else again, he = Flash.

Haha, this is great. I like to picture thee actor from that film going into the bank and saying "hello, I = Flash!!"

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Self-aware camp is pretty dull (unless vintage John Waters qualifies).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I am surprised Pete's tale of a Drew Barrymore remake hasn't proved true.

I like Barbarella, but I haven't seen it in many, many years, so may think differently if I saw it again.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

the costumes and sound design/music will stand up through thick and thin

lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

This was on the TV the other night but I fell asleep halfway through her strip routine. Damn meds do that to me.

Lapdog Shoesnog (kate), Thursday, 5 May 2005 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

"Decrucify the angel, or I'll melt your face."


Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Thursday, 5 May 2005 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Drew still owns the rights.
http://www.countingdown.com/movies/14252

Pete (Pete), Thursday, 5 May 2005 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Awesome movie. Fonda and Pallenberg are teh hott. Is there any love for FLESH Gordon on this board?

Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Thursday, 5 May 2005 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha, I was thinking of that too when reading all the comments about Flash Gordon!

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Self-aware camp is pretty dull (unless vintage John Waters qualifies).

OTM

Huge DUD, plus it's always on UKTV.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Q: "What's that you're smoking?"

A. "Essence of man"

(takes a toke, smiles and nods)

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Saturday, 7 May 2005 06:57 (twenty-one years ago)

One of those films that looks brilliant as stills, but is deadly boring to watch. I couldn't make it all the way thru even as a tits-on-TV obsessed 14 year old.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 7 May 2005 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

"Decrucify the angel, or I'll melt your face."

I think that line is the absolute essense of cinema.

Ian in Brooklyn, Saturday, 7 May 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Classic and unwatchable.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 7 May 2005 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

haha.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 7 May 2005 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually I like the implied idea that the best way to enjoy the film is to hear it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 May 2005 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw this with my buddies in 1968. At least I think it was 1968. We were all underage, but got a pass. I remember nothing of the movie. Well, I guess I remember Jane's bubble top. Now that was classic!

Same theatre a month or so later: They wouldn't let me in to see Goodbye Columbus. :(

jim wentworth (wench), Sunday, 8 May 2005 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Gellerella:

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/59500/59759kPrO_w.jpg

Ian in Brooklyn, Monday, 9 May 2005 05:51 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

RIP John Philip Law (tho I pref'd him in The Golden Voyage of Sinbad)

Dr Morbius, Saturday, 17 May 2008 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

Also, bonus: cast a remake! BRITNEY SPEARS!

Okay, early ILX is finally starting to show its age a little bit.

Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 17 May 2008 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

Everything about this movie fills my heart with joy.

Abbott, Saturday, 17 May 2008 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

i rly need to see it

Surmounter, Saturday, 17 May 2008 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

OH MAN DO YOU EVER

They try to kill her with a machine that will give her too many orgasms and the plot is foiled when the machine explodes bcz it cannot handle her ability to orgasm like mad. I think.

Abbott, Saturday, 17 May 2008 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

It looks like a pipe organ with a waterbed attached.

Abbott, Saturday, 17 May 2008 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

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Surmounter, Saturday, 17 May 2008 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.swapsale.com/Barbarella_2.jpg

Abbott, Saturday, 17 May 2008 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

crazy. i'm disappointed in myself, not having seen this yet.

Surmounter, Saturday, 17 May 2008 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

The idea of Barbarella is utterly captivating. Jane Fonda doing anything in her Barabrella costume is the definition of classic. However, actually watching it is somewhat less enthralling, unless you have ingested something that interferes with your attention span.

Aimless, Saturday, 17 May 2008 22:46 (eighteen years ago)

First viewing at age 14=CUHLASSICK

RabiesAngentleman, Sunday, 18 May 2008 00:29 (eighteen years ago)

see some good Fonda movies first

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 18 May 2008 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

Someone should do a machinima remake with Ariane

snoball, Sunday, 18 May 2008 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

classic. there should not be any kind of remake.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 18 May 2008 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

this movie is actually why I started my selznick vs bruckheimer vs de laurentiis poll last week that nobody answered

El Tomboto, Sunday, 18 May 2008 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

So...I have NEVER seen this movie but it is showing for free at USC tonight...do I make the effort to actually go?

Oh and it is playing with Conan The Barbarian. I haven't seen that either.

International Simon (admrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 22:31 (fourteen years ago)

on a screen? 35mm or somebody's dvd?

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Friday, 30 March 2012 22:40 (fourteen years ago)

35mm, I think.

International Simon (admrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 22:42 (fourteen years ago)

hell yeah, go see both. you won't regret it. unless you don't like good things.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 22:42 (fourteen years ago)

tribute to De Laurentiis:

http://web-app.usc.edu/ws/eo2/calendar/32/event/894384

International Simon (admrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 22:43 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, go for it

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Friday, 30 March 2012 22:44 (fourteen years ago)

Wow, Conan is long, huh?

De Laurentiiis (admrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 22:45 (fourteen years ago)

I got to see Barb in 35 sometime ago. Quite the evening out.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 March 2012 22:50 (fourteen years ago)

six years pass...

Caught a midnight showing of this at the Nitehawk in Brooklyn and it was on a nice 35mm print. As I'd seen the film at least five times before, I noticed a couple of odd things in the credits:

One, the music was credited to Michel Magne. Now I know the music was actually done by Bob Crewe and Charles Fox - I even own the original soundtrack album - and I've always seen it credited to them in the film. Looking into it, imdb says Michel Magne did some kind of original version of the soundtrack (?). If so I wonder why the credit remained on this particular print. On the 1968 soundtrack album's liner notes Bob Crewe says that the film was originally presented to him already finished but with no score, so he wrote one to the rhythm of the film. So what happened with this supposed Michel Magne score?

Two, on this print the title sequence was credited to Maurice Binder, known for the James Bond title sequences. Previously I've always seen the titles credited to "Arcady." imdb says Binder actually did them and is properly credited on the original rough cut of the film. Later cuts say "Arcady" for some reason. So was I seeing the original rough cut of the film at the Nitehawk? That would be weird.

As for the film itself I do think it's a classic and in some fashion beyond criticism. It's bad if you look at it one way, and near-great if you look at it a different way. I don't think calling it camp adequately describes the intentions of Vadim & Fonda nor the results. Not completely, at least.

One legit criticism I would agree with is that the first half of the film is better than the second. Once Barbarella and Pygar enter Sogo the pace slows a bit and there are some dull stretches. But the first half is spilling over with ideas and surprises, and I'm always down for the whole ride.

Josefa, Sunday, 30 September 2018 18:54 (seven years ago)


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