Has anything ever happened on Coronation Street?

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It's on early sunday morning here. As I involuntarily wake up at ungodly hours I've been watching it, usually in a mildly hungover state, for about 3 weeks now.

Maybe it's just a cultural thing (or a hangover thing) and I'm just not getting it - but does anything happen? It seems to consist of about 400 non-sequiter-spouting characters, most in their 60's, few of whom even know each other. It's like Andy Capp scripted by Beckett. Yet somehow I'm hooked, if only to see if the plot will somehow reveal itself to me by osmosis.

Brits feel free to tell me what a stupid Canuck I am, but please explain the appeal of the show. Who watches it? What does it all mean?

fritz, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Stupid Canuck! Everything happens down Coronation Street. Aren't you being ripped to pieces by the devastation that is the separation of Janice and Les? Nothing happens? Good God man!

Johnathan, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

well, actually, a shy older couple are on the run from johnny law with a nerdy young red-headed boy. that's pretty action-packed. it gives all the other random strangers something to mumble about in one of the show's 3 locations (pub, interchangable living room, chip shop). are we on the same season over here?

fritz, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No, you're a few months behind us. I assume you're talking about anorak Roy, Haley the trans-sexual and the little ginger kid whose name I've forgotten. Can't remember what happened there actually. Just wait till Janice starts shagging the fat, bald bloke down the garage. Poor old Les - he can't act at being a drunk to save his life.

Johnathan, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

andrew l posted summat about toyah battersby = 6ov9 + i sputtered kenko red all over ma frikn kybrd

, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dennis may be fat and bald but he has a heart of gold and is a kind and gentle man (except when he rescued Sarah Lou from the Interweb Paedophile who used to be in Brookie and smacked him in the kiddy fiddling face) whereas Les is a a boor.

Emma, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Season" heh heh.

Corrie is the only soap I have ever watched regularly and I would start watching again if I lived with someone who did. Lots of stuff happens but somehow the series manages to retain a kind of Alan Bennett-ish feel as if nothing ever did. Pretty much all Coronation Street characters under 30 were ghastly when I watched it and I don't see any reason to believe this has changed.

Tom, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

why is "season" heh heh? does it never stop, no matter what the weather?

fritz, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yep. :)

I think it's stopped due to industrial action a couple of times.

Tom, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And how long has it been running? Has it reflected/distorted youth culture in the past? As I watched, I kept wondering if there were ever punk/glam/mod/b-boy/whatever characters.

fritz, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's been going longer than most ILEers, at least 30 years if not 35. However it is well down the Emma List of Top Soaps which is subject to change on a daily basis (though Correr is always fairly low down as they keep saying things like 'do you want your dinner at teatime or dinnertime').

Emma, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Since, what, 1962?

There was a crusty character called Spider a few years ago. I think they tend to avoid youth subcultures for the obvious and quite good reason that their older viewers dont care and their younger viewers would get embarrassed.

Tom, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

They don't have a member of Spandau Ballet, so what good are they?

If I had BBC America (like my sister does) I would probably watch Eastenders for that reason alone.

Nicole, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Spider came back last week (or the week before? Soap time is confusting) Tom, he tried to whisk Toyah away to a decadent life running a juice bar in That London which he is opening with money from Auntie Em(ily). He appears to have stopped dodging the soap.

Nicole, Eastenders is The Best Thing in the World EVAH but Kempo is leaving shortly to pursue a more glittering TV career elsewhere. Oh well, he is receding quite badly anyway.

Emma, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It is Beckett but with a feeling-good factor. According to my Geordie ex-flatmate, a flavour of Corrie from time to time (once a fortnight or so)helped her to believe there was still some North where people currently say things like the dinner/tea time Emma quoted...solid,down-to-earth,GOOD

Laetitia, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I will never understand why calling meals by the wrong name makes people the Salt of the Earth or somehow morally superior to Southerners but then I am a decadent Southerner who bathes in champagne and grinds her stiletto into the flat caps and whippets of Northern folk.

Emma, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i love coronation street. particulary the music. dont understand aht people see in eastenders though.

ambrose, Saturday, 1 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Eastenders is just bleak. Everyone in it is a potential murderer or rapist. I get the feeling that in Eastenders if someone won the lottery they would die of a heart attack within weeks, or discover that their dad was their uncle and their brother or something. Theres no escaping Albert Square, you just do your shit job, get in your crap fights and drink pints at lunch time. And sometimes you get fleeting experiences of happiness but only to mock you.

Ronan, Saturday, 1 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

corrie music rocks! it is as grim as anything ever. if lou reed had heard this before making Berlin, he would have chucked in the depression game, rechristened himeself Louxxy and made happy hardcore 20 years early.

eastenders, where in London is ti actually meant to be? i saw this thing in Metro once with a doctored tube map showing the fictional station between, like, Becontree and Upney, somewhere out in DG land, but isn't the square supposed to be based on that square in Hackney off Graham Road? but its not meant to be Hackney is it? surely not? Hackneys not even East End.

gareth, Saturday, 1 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, physically it resembles Fassett Square where my quite-posh v. unEastenders ex- boss AR lives, which is off Graham Road. But culturally, yeah, it is further south and further east.

mark s, Saturday, 1 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The theme music to Coronation Street always evokes the Hoggartist image of the North, which is why I'm slightly (though pleasantly) surprised that Gareth likes it.

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 2 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But surely Robin the music-as-text — as performed by Acker Bilk no less — is counter-Hoggartian, since
i. Bilk's claim to fame was Brit Trad Jazz, a music learned entirely from discs from the US
ii. Bilk was the first UK artist to top the US charts.
iii. Bilk is from Somerset

mark s, Sunday, 2 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Genuinely never knew Bilk had anything to do with it. If so it's an amusing peripheral case of music-as-text conflicting with imagery evoked (only The Archers has had the same theme for longer and I think that was written with the intent of evoking Yorkshire).

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 2 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three years pass...
The show is pure gold at the moment. tonight's double bill was the funniest hour of TV since Alan Partridge at his height. Cilla + Les + Status Quo = tears of laughter.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)

Oh, god, it was horrible. They are like Jack and Vera without the warmth. Them and Kirk and that Molly one that used to be in Emmerdale are utterly utterly beyond redemption now. Les was good back in the day, when Toyah was raped and he got to be more than a "comedy" character.

Incidentally after the griping about the lack of youth culture upthread, Craig and Rosie became miserablist goths, which was quite entertaining. However they just ruined any pretence of knowing what kids like by making Scooter (yes, they actually have a teenage character called Scooter) miss the wedding to stay at home and watch a Victor Mature film. However I still find Scooter the most likeable young character in it.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)

eleven months pass...
Scooter obviously didn't go down well with teh kids. The goffs have de-goffed. I wonder what wedding was I talking about in that post? Shelley and Charlie? Ashley and Claire?

However, Fred is about to pop his clogs, I say, pop his clogs. I'm back loving Corrie again these days.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Poor Fred. Poor Bev. Poor Audrey. Poor Ashley :-(

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

they laid it on a bit thick tonight, i think i prefer corrie when it's more like wot fritz described it as being in his original post.

scooter was absoluely fucking awful ailsa, one of the stupidest characters ever on the show.

other ones wot i have hated: that barman/cleaner who came in and only got one plotline, and it was some stupid thing where he saved the life of a business man who was coming to negotiate with m.baldwin at the factory he was cleaner in, so then the businessman said he'd only do business negotiations with the cleaner (???) (speaking of which, when was the last time betty had a plotline of note? she's pretty superfluous these days, though i'd still rather she was in it)

kirk - i don't really need to explain this, do I? especially big thumbs down for anything involving kirk& the young crowd arguing about the kennels, hanging out at the kennels, anything involving kirk and/or kennels basically.

sally's soulmate from a couple of years back.

i'm sure i can think of a few more.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 9 October 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Aw, Harry (cleaner/barman) was OK, just suffered from lack of storyline. He had one lovely scene where it was just him and Janice (yeah, I know, a lovely storyline involved Janice, what are the chances) - turned out he had lost a daughter and Janice actually remembered about Dennis dying and got all maudlin about it and it was very touching. Then he tried to get Eileen to run away with him but thankfully* she said no.

Obviously the next week Janice was back to being gobby and annoying and pointless again.

*Not because I don't want Eileen to be happy with a nice bloke, but because Eileen is the best (yet most underused) character they have.

What happened to Kelly's mad Single White Female stalker? I appear to have missed the entire denouement of that storyline.


I liked Scooter because he was not Kirk/Chesney/David/Craig/Rosie/Molly/Sarah/Jason/any other badly-written young character ever. He was a geek! He liked stuff he found in bins and staying in watching old films and other non-angsty-teen stuff! (admittedly he was dragged down by supposedly being attractive to/attracted to Sarah).

Worst characters recently: Cilla, Yana, The Ramsdens, Karen McDonald, Lloyd, Chesney, Charlie-shagging nu-Maria (she used to be OK sometimes before she had this ludicrous personality shift to some sort of sub-Candice bimbette), Adam Fucking Barlow (who, lest we forget, was actually aborted yet somehow still managed to be born as some short-arsed fat bloke before coming back about a year later as The Bloke With The Worst Haircut In The World).

Most pointless character = Keith (Craig's grandad) and his stupid fucking pigs

Best character = Eileen.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 9 October 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

I think Eileen is kinda well used, she is like the conscience of the Street, sometimes. Plus her and Gale is a great storyline.

It's gobsmacking how well written Corrie is compared to the other soaps, I have to say I really enjoy it. It never descends into absolute farce, and the characters are very human. It also is one of the few TV shows which seems to portray the elderly quite well.

And yes, poor Ashley, Bev, Audrey, and adieu to Fred, one of the legends of the street. : ' (

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 9 October 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Ronan OTM, ailsa OTM (esp re. adam's haircut)corrie really is gobsmackingly well written (and directed, i must say) for 2 1/2 hours of TV per week and when it's not well written you can forgive it; it's never desperate in the way that eastenders is. eastenders was bad when it was unremittingly depressing but it was recently when they tried to jolly it up that it really went off the map. it's hard to believe how unfunny eastenders funny storylines can be.

somehow (and to it's detriment) ILX seems much more of an eastenders type place than a corrie one.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 9 October 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

Eileen is well-used when she is used, but when you look at the amount of time devoted to Kelly/Lloyd/Sarah/Jason etc, then she gets a potentially interesting storyline (dating the bloke what killed Ernest Bishop) and it's whizzed over in a couple of weeks...but, yes, the ongoing development and dynamics of her relationship with Gail is great.

I apologise herewith to Keith, even though he's fictional for making him the most pointless character ever in a show that had VERNON THE DRUMMER DUDE in it. Possibly because he was so pointless and rubbish that I forgot he existed until I thought about this more.

Add Violet to the under-used-but-potentially-OK list, surely there's a storyline for her round the corner. I think Liam seems a worthwhile addition, and despite all reservations I had prior to him joining, I really like Danny Baldwin too.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 9 October 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

thirteen years pass...

Things happen when people leave Coronation Street though.

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