Anatomy for beginners (Ch 4)

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Any(body) watching Gunther Van Hagen's series of cutting up corpses? Anybody learning anything?

― David Merryweather (DavidM), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm quite interested by how the body functions but this series irritates me so far. Who exactly are the audience? The shots of them wincing at minor disections is odd. Are they medical students or are they there for some kind of Jim Rose Circus 'ewww yuk!' thrill?
"For beginners" is an understatement.
But I'm drunk anyway, so yay.

― David Merryweather (DavidM), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

got bored with it tonight the german dude wit hat wasn't good enough value it was like year 8 science or year nine except now i know less but just go oooh thats amazing or ugh or whatever but not enough to actually watch it actually i have no attention span but it was all like in one place i demand cgi and jump cuts production values if the bodies were cgi i would like it more i think except i'm not really into biology maybe if they did it with dinosaurs but thats unlikely

― elwisty (elwisty), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Dinosaurs??!!??!?!!!

But, yeah, Ch4's point with this prog is what exactly? Sensationalism?

― David Merryweather (DavidM), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

but its not sensational enough if you want sensation do it well like OH MY GOD WE JUST SLICED THAT DUDES FREAKIN' BRAIN OUT!!!!! and then jump cut to some extreme knarly to the MAX snow boarding of cliffs and dinosaurs with eric prydz and the stooges as the soundtrack

― elwisty (elwisty), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

That's just what I was thinking.

― David Merryweather (DavidM), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, is this that bloke that was on TV a couple of years ago wearing a big hat and cutting up some fat dead bloke?

― Patrick Allan (adr), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Liz x to thread - if I remember correctly, she has handled one of von Hagens' plastinated limbs.

― caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

It would be so much better if they got the doctor from Ministry of Mayhem to do it.

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Same bloke who did the live autopsy, yes. found that fascinating but had trouble watching more than 10 minutes of this. the muscles just looked like uncooked, skinned chicken but were in the shape of a human and something about that just seemed wrong. (was the bit where he was moving the fingers by pulling on muscles in lower arm)

and those testicles...

― koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

When they were lifting the skin off I thought it looked remarkably like loft insulation.

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I think this is an anti "death as a taboo" thing, seeing how fragile and physical your spinal cord is made me wince.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Hi dere! Yes, GvH did a guest lecture at university (Fine Art degree, high anatomy component, we drew from pickled corpses once a week) and passed a plastinated leg around. It felt like processed ham.

Haven't watched any of the new series so far, but I might just for a nostalgic giggle at the hat. Are the bodies plastinated in this series or are they, er, 'raw'?

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

They look pretty raw to me.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

my thoughts:

1) "just a little bit" has never sounded more creepy.
2) Hasn't he done enough autopsy's already?
3) Why would anybody leave him their body?
4) Why is there a girl painting muscles on a nude body builder?

I watched the first one, not bothering to watch anymore

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

not the liberty X song.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my, this programme is horrible. Truly, very horrible. I switch on the TV for a go on the Playstation and am faced with someone having his balls cut in half. Cheers boss!

― Patrick Allan (adr), Thursday, 27 January 2005 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

my housemates said he hacked open a fanny, which sounded nice...

― elwisty (elwisty), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)

the live model bloke had a semi

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

but the skeleton had an erection

they tried to explain it but all i could think of was why the function of post-death erections could possible be needed.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

next up:

Gunther Van Hagen's Skelectrics for beginners

this week: building a functioning track and controlling the speed of your kart.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

featuring post-race erections

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

is there any chance of cgi dinosaurs being involved?

― elwisty (elwisty), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a race against pre-history.

This week: Dinosaur Vs Embalmed Ford Focus Replica.

stay tuned for amazing diagrams and cutting tools, which i appear to have obtained from any kitchen at all.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Anatomy for the Jinners

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/815000/images/_819117_gingerboy150.jpg

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

next week Embrace vs dinosaur

the plucky indie comeback kids challenge a cgi deinonychus to a round of scalectrix. deinonychus unable to use somewhat tricksy handset grows frustrated and viciously slaughter mcnamara twins. all this in the back of yr sisters cosworth whilst men stand outside and pant lustily how can you refuse?

― elwisty (elwisty), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

if we just pull back the rib cage here we'll see he is full of envy and hatred (highlighted by the dye - his heart is really quite black). All this is caused by the process of bullying, which starts long before the body decays.

Oh look, he has an erection. How lovely and informative.

(xpost)

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.pekin.net/pekin108/dirksen/dinos/deinonychus.jpg

channel 4 = low budget cgi

― elwisty (elwisty), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.pekin.net/pekin108/dirksen/dinos/stegosaurus.jpg

fight!!!

― elwisty (elwisty), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there anything made on a shoestring budget featuring naked people in various states of decay that Channel 4 won't show.

I'm looking at you big brother.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

was that woman real? i thought she was made of plasticine...

― elwisty (elwisty), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, she was real.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i think they put some kind of jelly paste on their bodies before they start ripping them apart.

maybe it smells cool or something

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.pekin.net/pekin108/dirksen/dinos/allosaurus.jpg

sylvester stallone's mum

― elwisty (elwisty), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i never knew they had paper in the jurassic age.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.galleri-nk.no/Ragnhild/troll%20woman.jpg

caprice

― elwisty (elwisty), Friday, 28 January 2005 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

The official website says "Here, you can see highlights of the dissections and learn more about your body. Your anatomical guides will be Dr Gunther von Hagens who dissects the bodies and pathologist Professor John Lee who explains how they work in health and in disease."
I'm interested in this, it would be sweet to find a torrent.

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 28 January 2005 04:55 (twenty-one years ago)

> i think they put some kind of jelly paste on their bodies
> before they start ripping them apart.

the same bloke does a travelling exhibition (dead bodies riding horses, kicking footballs, carrying their own flayed skin etc) that was big news when it hit london a year or so ago (there's a thread around here somewhere). he's also developed a technique that he calls 'plastination' where the body is pumped full of chemicals after death to preserve it. it tends to give the flesh that plasticky look that you've seen.

http://www.bodyworlds.com/en/pages/home.asp
http://www.bodyworlds.com/en/pages/plastination.asp

on the same page you can donate your body.

― koogs (koogs), Friday, 28 January 2005 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Who exactly are the audience? The shots of them wincing at minor disections is odd. Are they medical students or are they there for some kind of Jim Rose Circus 'ewww yuk!' thrill?

If they're anything like Channel 4's target audience, then very definitely the latter.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 28 January 2005 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

In answer to the question near the top, the studio audience are made up of students and body donors (still alive ones). They said that in the introduction to the first programme, which is the only one I've seen so far because I had the day off the next day. I'd love to be able to see the rest - I'm curious about stuff like this and not easily grossed out - but I have to get up at 6.30am and I'd be a prize ratbag if I didn't get enough sleep.

The corpses aren't plastinated, but they wheeled out a plastichap in ep. 1 to give a better view of the brain/nervous system.

And yes, those testicles!

― Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 28 January 2005 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)

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