ABC2: C/D

http://www.4bitterguys.com/adam/bbcvabc.jpg

I mean, I expected one day we'd be calling it ABC1 and ABC2, but I thought they'd at least be two properly separate channels, not just the same thing time-slipped.

BAH!

Dunno about SBS, but the other commercial broadcasters aren't allowed to have extra channels because it'd cut into Foxtel's profits. Seriously what a wank.

I agree about the lack of follow-through of all the possibilities that were promised for digital. It's now four years on and there's literally not a single valid reason to own a set top box. Even widescreen broadcasts are token, with 100% of the information squashed into the middle of frame.

Dunno about SBS, but the other commercial broadcasters aren't allowed to have extra channels because it'd cut into Foxtel's profits. Seriously what a wank.

What a fucking shame it would be for Foxtel to have to offer more interseting programming instead of the ridiculous shit they serve up these days. I'd hope SBS gets access to the spectrum (I seem to remember hearing that they might), but they don't even broadcast between 2am and 6am or something, so I can't imagine what they'd be able to pad a whole other channel with.

Even widescreen broadcasts are token, with 100% of the information squashed into the middle of frame.

Watching sports (like the Australian Open, for example) is absolutely awesome in widescreen. As for everything else, I pretty-much agree with you.

The UK tried to make terrestrial digital enticing by creating two whole new channels with substantial new content [BBC Choice [now BBC3] and BBC Knowledge [now BBC4]]. By way of example, Little Britain debuted on BBC3, and the new Doctor Who will have a 13-week supporting 'making of'-style programme exclusive to BBC3.

That's the sort of thing we need to have here. Something genuinely enticing. Not the exact same line-up two hours later.

argh xpost

Exactly. You'd think a little bit of competition wouldn't hurt. Foxtel might offer a bit more quality, rather than the endless mill of syndicated US bullshit on 200 channels.

Watching sports (like the Australian Open, for example) is absolutely awesome in widescreen.

The Aus Open is in widescreen now? Apparently last year 7 went back to 4:3; I didn't know they'd gone back. Awesome.

Different angles for the tennis would be fantastic.

Yeah, we could choose to not have that horrid side-on angle every five points.

crosspost

http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~vu4o-mtmr/image89.jpg

It reminds me of a Viz photocomic where a man gets visited by the ghost of television past, present and future. The ghost of television future says something like: Thousands of channels! Satellite! Cable! Digital! Live monster truck feeds from America! Bavarian farmyard pornography! Eighteen channels that play Keeping Up Appearances 24 hours a day, staggered at two-minute intervals!

That actually sounds pretty good to me.

Went to watch 'On the WEaterfront' which had tap[ed off ABC2 on Sat night--found had cunningly used a 60min tape. So much for THAT!

Freeview to manufacturers: 'can you make Freeview-compatible equipment (i.e. TVs that prevent ad-skipping) and have it in shops by May?'

Manufacturers: 'can we fuck'

http://www.smarthouse.com.au/TVs_And_Large_Display/Industry/B3N9P8E6?page=1

What Freeview is promoting as unique, say TV vendors, will be available via any integrated TV. They also claim there is no real benefit for consumers and that all the proposed marketing campaign will do is add an additional layer of confusion for consumers.

As one vendor said bluntly "Freeview is designed to slow down the skipping of TV commercials and to muddy the Foxtel message that they have over 100 channels of TV including all the Freeview channels which with Foxtel can be recorded and the advertising skipped through".

Freeview = cockberries, seriously.

ABC News 24 win. Opening with a massive scoop is the best thing ever.

deadwood and the goodies!!!

(not together)

ABC News 24 win. Opening with a massive scoop is the best thing ever.

Can't get as have no high-def. Am sad.

Yeah the fact the Goodies is coming back on is the ONLY thing iun the last fucknose how many years that's made me decide to hook the PVR/receiver back up to the teev. If only so I can record it all (cos the DVDs were useless)

In fact I'm thinking I might buy a new PVR, the one I have is one of those very early-model crappy jobs.

24 is HD? wtf

I thought you can still watch HD on normal TVs, you just dont get the HD signal quality obv.

Also I have just discovered a little digital TV/PVR peripheral for the PS3 called PlayTV, I am so getting one.

ABC HD was a) never full HD and b) only had about 2 hours a week of fake-HD programming

You can watch iView through PS3 BTW T

Ya k1t have already been doing so, its v nifty. Sadly goodies doesnt look like it'll be inc on iview, tho that may remain to be seen next week?

The series are, the specials aren't.

Oh nice, ok. I wonder if theres some way to record iview data, hmm.

Not that I endorse stealing from Aunty, obv, hem hem.

Meh, you can buy all the specials anyway (I think).

this 'the old guys' show is not really the best show any of its cast has been in

katherine parkinson in actually a terrible actor non-shocker

Mark Scott is my hero.

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/12/chris-uhlmann-leigh-sales-to-host-new-look-730.html

The ABC has announced Chris Uhlmann and Leigh Sales to host the newly-titled 7:30.

Uhlmann is currently Political Editor for ABC News while Sales has been a co-presenter for Lateline.

From March next year, it will be simply called 7.30. Sales will anchor the program from Sydney and Uhlmann will be Political Editor, presenting the show from Canberra when the news demands it. The new focus of 7.30 will be on the range and depth of the program’s reporting, and its ability to break stories and set the news agenda.

Before Great Scott came along the whole ABC (p'raps one (1) fully sick ilx regular is in a position to agree/disagree with me here) seemed to be a complete basket case. Now, with the new 24 channel and individual controllers for ABC1/2 and online trailblazing, it's thoroughly resurgent and pushing Australian television forward and continuing to do amazingly incredible stuff. Compare to the start of this thread when the whole digital exercise was a joke (it still is for ch9, apparently).

people often call the second one 2, in the world.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:47 (5 years ago)

lol

I'm with Nmtua on this--ABC2 and News24 are really useful, and I even find myself listening to the DIG Jazz channel sometimes (if only they would include track titles in the signal somehow)

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2011/02/new-abc1-idents-coming.html

New ABC1 branding on Sunday! I love this sort of thing.

when do you think they retrospectively decided to call it a 'lissajous'

it was 'lissajous curve' for a while but they seem to have dropped the 'curve'

dropping the second half of names should be std industry practice imo

'home and away' -> 'home'
'neighbours' -> 'neigh'

never drop the curve imo

when do you think they retrospectively decided to call it a 'lissajous'

1857 iirc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Antoine_Lissajous

starting with the new branding on Sunday: graphics popping up during programs on ABC1 to tell you what is on the other channels

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/55/Galois_icon.jpeg/30px-Galois_icon.jpegThis article about a French mathematician is a stub.

Oh yuck.

I'll still with iview.

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graphics popping up during programs on ABC1 to tell you what is on the other channels

o fuc really? what like the BBC does over the credits at the end of stuff, or bang in the middle of shows?

i would 'appresh' dat

not bang in the middle, near the end, but during the actual program. "only watching this through inertia? switch to ABC2 for authentic 1980s cop show violence, on Ashes To Ashes!"

good lord

I know BBC1 and BBC2 whack up a bit of a 'Next: Harry and Paul' type thing in the last scene of a show, but it's in the top left corner and generally out of the way. Still hate it though

sounds good - i like a reminder occasionally

Hey u bitin' my DN or what mister.

pff the one thing I still enjoy about television is that it stays out of my way. Chucking up notifications is just about the worst and most irritating and pathetic thing you can do to a viewer imo.

If this is pulled off tastefully it might be all right but I'm not holding muh breath.

Hey u bitin' my DN or what mister.

― Cyclone Yazoo (Trayce), Thursday, 3 February 2011 11:56 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

u paranoid imo

haaaa

Aw you guys

speaking as someone who hates it personally, it heartens me that at least one viewer out there will be welcoming this

As much as I like a new ident, and the current lot of ABC1 idents are rubbish, I don't like the sound of this: "Now ABC1 will push its own look." I hope this doesn't mean INCONSISTENT BRANDING, which the ABC are masters of imo.

Also, bring back the clock. I know it hasn't been around for 25+ years or so and doesn't work in the era of digital delay, but bring back the clock.

- Angry of Petersham

New watermark's up. I like that they've finally taken away the superfluous 'ABC' given that the lissajous is strong enough to handle that alone, but the lissajous itself is liquid metal in the watermark which imo is balls.

lissajous lissajous lissajous

http://blogs.abc.net.au/abc_tv/2011/03/abc2-always-brighter.html

impressive

(i hope it's real)

1. It took weeks/months for the main logo of the two channels to match up! (And now ABC3 looks out of place.)

2. Not ~feeling~ the idents.

3. I like the tag but in that font? In those colours?

4. ALL HAIL HOT AIR BALLOON PIG

ABC3 is a great service to all the kiddies who want kiddy content in the four hours a day that ABC1 and ABC2 aren't also running nonstop kiddy content. Brilliant.

ABC3 is for school-age kids, ABC2 daytime for pre-schoolers. (You may construct your own opinions about having a channel dedicated to showing programming for school-age kids during the hours when they are at school; I'm only here with facts)

Look out for changes re ABC1, but nb that digital take-up was still p small when ABC3 launched.

I have so many ~issues~ with the ABC right now that are infuriating me that if I had the time, I would write a fourteen-page letter with that would end in the phrase, "tell Mark Scott to give himself a fuckin' uppercut".