TS: Damien Hurst -vs- A Sports Car

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we took rufus to the boston museum of fine arts and they had a small hurst exhibit and their big show which is fancy autos from ralph lauren's fancy auto collection. the cars were pretty sexy. the painting made out of flies, not so much. so anyway, which would you rather have: a sheep in a box or a vintage bugatti? they both go for lotsa money and they both come to you courtesy of two fabulously wealthy men.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

can we split the difference by placing the spots car in a giant glass box filled with formaldahyde?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I would rather have Damien HIrst in person, please. Rwoarrr, etc.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

hmmm, i don't know about that, amz.

i forgot to mention: a porsche spyder from the 50's and a collage of butterfly wings are BOTH art.

also, who would win in a beauty contest between a shark in a glass box and ralph lauren in a glass box?

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Cheesy Sharks: An Appreciation Thread

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Cars are nasty dirty petrol guzzling things.

Flies and insects play an essential part in the pollination of plants and the removal of waste products.

Hrmmm, let's see, which would I rather have around?

Sorry, Hirst still wins.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 18 March 2005 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

shit, i spelled his name wrong. i didn't even notice. sorry, art-fans. it was early here. moderator please give the bright notsoyounganymore thing his name back!

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 18 March 2005 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

The shark, obv.

xxxpost

― Jimmy Mod Has Returned With Spices And Silks (ModJ), Friday, 18 March 2005 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i'll never forget walking through Hoxton Square and passing a pub which was a stone's throw from the White Cube, and seeing that its chalkboard outside read "Got a Damien THIRST? Drink specials all day"

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 18 March 2005 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Vintaj Bugatti, no contest:

http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/03-Bugatti%20Atlantic-2.jpg

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 18 March 2005 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

just keep that scarf tucked in.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 18 March 2005 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Hirst won for me.

Rufus loved the cars, though. The live butterflies caught his attention, but he wasn't very interested in the medicine cabinet.

I think gullwing car doors are impractical. Glorified hatchbacks but on the side. They look cool though.

― Maria D. (Maria D.), Friday, 18 March 2005 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.speakuponline.it/archivio/06-2003/images/art/news_03.jpg

best of both?

― Maria D. (Maria D.), Friday, 18 March 2005 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

the bit on the culture show last night showed his new paintings, oil paintings of photos of his own previous work (pills mainly) and pictures taken from newspapers. (and, like warhol, assistants did most of the work, he just chose the images and added finishing touches)

http://www.gagosian.com/myindex.php?mode=current

― koogs (koogs), Friday, 18 March 2005 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh! Oh! Did you watch it? Was his hair as cute as it looked in the preview? I missed it because of the stupid train...

Oh, never mind, it's not like you'd notice how cute his hair was, Andy. ;-)

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 18 March 2005 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

last night i heard the story retold of how hirst sent a huge plexiglass cabinet full of cigarette butts to the Phillips auction in new york.. but London forgot to send over the plastic baggies that actually contained the cigarette butts. the art handlers got the piece around 5pm but all they had was a big plexiglass box (divided into compartments), no ciggies, and no one to call in London since it was 10pm there. so they did what any slightly deranged art handlers would do, they went down to the store and bought like three cartons of cigarettes, and the smokers smoked, and the non-smokers found turkey basters to stick lit cigarettes into, and pumped them down to the butts. i asked why they couldn't have just snipped off the tobacco and lit the end a little, and was told this wouldn't haave achieved the requisite brownish-yellow stain on the filters.. so anyway, the auction goes off without a hitch. but at an afterparty someone overhears one of the handlers boozily relating the story, and makes a call the next morning.. by 9am the buyer calls up, incensed..

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 18 March 2005 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

yr wrong about warhol, koogs--he did much of the actual object making and painting himself--all or almost all of it depending on the series.

the new hirsts are fucking awful--which disappoints, because the qauliy is usually so high.

id take almost anything over a car, but there are a few hirsts i would give a left nut for.

and rufus liking it proves a point

― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 18 March 2005 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU ARE ALL IGNORING THE IMPORTANT THING WHICH IS...

DAMIEN'S CUTE NEW HAIR WHICH I DID NOT GET TO SEE LAST NIGHT, BOO HOO HOOOOOO!!!

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 18 March 2005 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracer--can i blog that.
hes not that cute kate. (now sarah lucas doubleplusrowr)

― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 18 March 2005 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

But he looked cute with his new hair. ::sniff::

He had long DDB hair and big chunky emo glasses in the preview. Both of which I really like on him. Hence I'm so upset that I missed it.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 18 March 2005 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i dunno, i always heard warhol didn't do much at all on those silkscreens. but this is really how it's been done for years now. it always completely floors me how artists in general don't do their own art - even the painter ones. jonathan barnbrook does damien hirst's graphics and silkscreens. they're just project managers or art directors or maybe not even that, they're just 'brands'. you'd think it would be a bigger discussion since art and art theory is so obsessively deconstructivist about politics, authenticity, etc. though i guess pretty indulgent about itself.

http://www.eyemagazine.com/feature.php?id=3&fid=23

― lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

warhol meant to distance his actual involvement for several conceptual reasons--the silk screens were done by both assts and him, but much more by him. the fotos were his, the drawings were his, the films up to paul morissey were him.

― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 18 March 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

blog away anthony!

lolita, wouldn't any discussion which obsessively deconstructed the politics of authenticity in art have at least one side saying "of course they don't do everything themselves, it's a big project!" i.e. why should visual artists be held to standards that almost no other artist is (i.e. bronze sculptors or film directors)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 18 March 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

well, obviously film directors couldn't work alone, but at least all the parts are acknowledged and appreciated. no one is credited on an artwork except the artist. i also think there are different levels of involvement artists have in what is supposedly their artwork and it's not always straight-forward. you can argue they earned their place in the world where they can just rattle off ideas and other people make them, or that they're busy people who need a production line to keep up with demand. and these things aren't good or bad per se, but there's a mythology about art that tends to hide these aspects.

― lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Friday, 18 March 2005 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I totally agree. I remember seeing Bill "Sweet Music" Viola's installation, "The Passions" (which I hated) and wondering who the actors were, and why they didn't get credited, since the entire piece was just hi-def cameras trained at their faces.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 18 March 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

blog about warhol or hirst
i dont really have anything critically interesting to say about the new hirsts.

― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 20 March 2005 06:51 (twenty-one years ago)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40228000/jpg/_40228715_hirst203.jpg
My art maybe silly, But I hope my sharks will still make Kate wuv me!

― The other Damien (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Not a recent photo, but god, he's lovely. My reports are going horribly wrong and everyone wants me to fix an old database which is WACKY WACKY WACKY CRACKY WACKY and I've had two hours of sleep and it's just not my day.

(I was re-reading Pretty Deep Waters last night to try and get me to sleep as well.)

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

(I was certain this thread was going to be about Damien Hurst getting hit by a car.)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Hirst OK, but smoking cigarettes with turkey basters is the best thing I've heard in ages.

― Austin S (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Damien get out of my dreams and into my car.

― Maria D. (Maria D.), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

sixteen years pass...

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/damien-hirst-staff-layoffs-1993976

just when you think no 90's brit-waster could be more detestable than that Oasis thunderbirds puppet.

― calzino, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 08:16 (four years ago)

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