The difference between pornography and art... (name this quote)

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Okay, I read a lot of Roger Ebert reviews. Tons.

I remember once he quoted... someone else, I can't remember who -- but he said the difference between porn film and an art film is in a porn film you always notice when people open doors. That's not even close to a direct quote-- but I really want to find the original because I thought it was great. I know ILE isn't my own personal fact finding team; but you guys are good. I've tried and tried to google and search the ebert archives and have found nothing. Maybe you remember it? Maybe you know the original quote?

Either would be great. Thank you so much.

― David Allen (David Allen), Monday, 21 March 2005 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought the difference was that art is out of focus (I've never heard the door thing before).

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 21 March 2005 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

haha

― David Allen (David Allen), Monday, 21 March 2005 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it was in the original 0 star review for Brown Bunny, which is gone and replaced with the 3 star review of the re-cut.

― David Allen (David Allen), Monday, 21 March 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't get the quote... Someone please explain?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 21 March 2005 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Meaning, in porn you're always aware when things that ARENT sex are happening.

― David Allen (David Allen), Monday, 21 March 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 21 March 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Still, it's a weird quote... Wouldn't this be a difference between a porn flick and *any* other film, not just art?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 21 March 2005 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah. I might be quoting it wrong-- I maybe just made it about art because people always argue the difference between porn and art.

― David Allen (David Allen), Monday, 21 March 2005 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

There's an Umberto Eco essay about how to identify porn - I think his rule of thumb is that if there are long and pointless scenes of people travelling in-between the sex scenes, then it's porn.

(The essay is in How To Travel With A Salmon - I'll try and find my copy of it)

― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 21 March 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

So the salmon is a metaphor?

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 21 March 2005 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

well, i do know that backin the day, it was considered decent and awoman was not naked but nude as long as there were no nipples showing but that was like pre-19th c paintings not film.

― Holly (an appletross), Monday, 21 March 2005 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

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