Dr. Who and the Daleks: Classic or Dud

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Peter Cushing gave the definitive impersonation of the doctor in my view. A classic film with a brilliant cast.

Simon Dufay, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Was this the first appearance of the doctor? (I have only the vaguest memories of it)

Tim Cahill, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

indeed it is a great film, tho i missed it when it was shown at the weekend.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

watched it on sunday morning and i thought it sucked (sorry)

mark s has comments over on freaky trigger btw

was 1965 so the tv series had been on previously. the daleks and the tardis were the only thing that made this Dr Who. Roy Castle's comic relief was dreadful.

Only bit i actively enjoyed was Barry Gray's "electronic music".

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The film is adapted from the first ever TV Dalek story. The TV story is pretty good - quite atmospheric and stuff. I seem to remember the film being in lurid colour.

What about the sequel, "Dr Who & The Dalek Invasion Of Earth 2150 AD" (adapted from the second TV Dalek story)? In it the Daleks have conquered the Earth and are planning to hollow it out and use it as a giant spaceship. I seem to remember they are going to do this by dropping an atomic bomb down a mine shaft leading to The Centre Of The Earth.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

the daleks have a bit of a liftshaft/mineshaft blindspot, don't they?

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

> Dr Who & The Dalek Invasion Of Earth 2150 AD

is on this weekend (friday?) on ch4. was also a converted tv script and, interestingly(?), the dvd contains a version where they've redone the special effects using cgi rather than tin plates on wires.

http://www.purpleville.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rtwebsite/serialk.htm

the other thing that bugged me was the way the daleks needed a metallic power strip in order to move around 'like dodgems at the fairground' but didn't seem to have any way of completing the circuit (the way dodgems have that conductor that trails along the roof).

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

haha didn't the doctor say at one point "they use electricity but not in the form we understand it"

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

possibly... with my memory for crap, I seem to remember that they power themselves from static electricity, which they are somehow able to transmit through floors (in the first story at least).

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Was perplexed in a minor way by everyone referring to 'the TARDIS' as 'TARDIS', i.e. "Let's go back to TARDIS"...

And interesting that they clearly make 'Dr Who' an eccentric grandfather, and very much human. Cushing's rather funny in the role, though I don't think he quite matches Hartnell... where are the edges of this old buffer? :)

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Bad as it was, it wasn't nearly as horrific a train crash as the 1996 effort.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Hartnell was awesome; you periodically got the sense that he would happily throw his companions off of a cliff in order to save himself.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

is he susan's maternal or paternal grandfather?

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't see the new Doctor doing that.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

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Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

r.e. Mark: It's not altogether clear; not sure if the Geoffrey Bayldon-featuring Unbound audio or Kim Newman's (very-well received) novella, "Time and Relative" explored this...

It may be a faux-pas, but, early in the film, doesn't Barbara call Cushing's Doctor her grandfather...? Might seem bizarre to any well-versed DW fan, but 't would fit with the essential *family ethos* the film was trying to get across, and indeed Barbara was much younger than in the TV series - as was Susan, here a mere child.

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, in the film barbara and susan are sisters: in TV, barbara is susan's teacher

"family ethos" haha - my pore mother had to sit through "thunderbirds are go!" w. me, and complained bitterly about subsequently (ie quite recently): i am glad for her sake she didn't have to suffer this

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

kim n. is also doin the bfi book on dr who - i'm not sure when it's due, he was talkin abt it at the s&s xmas party, and i can't remember if he said he'd finished it or not

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

He did an article on DW in the back section of a S&S from around the time its return was announced. And I seem to recall him briging in 'Talons of Weng Chiang' as prime example of TV 'horror' in "Ten Years of Terror", a rather smashing tome on British horror films of the 70s. The man clearly knows his DW, and has a refreshing take on it; *I really do* have to see if I can find "Time and Relative".

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Invasion Earth 2150AD was better. tardis looked less like something he'd knocked up in (/out of) his shed.

odd to see that the three lead males were known for a) Dracula / Hammer Horror films / general scary stuff b) narrating The Wombles c) narrating Mr Benn.

and nice to know Sugar Puffs will still be around in 2150.

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 09:13 (twenty-one years ago)

the dalek machinery had only ONE SETTING = "total power"!!

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

What about the sequel, "Dr Who & The Dalek Invasion Of Earth 2150 AD" (adapted from the second TV Dalek story)?

It scared the shit out of me more than anything i'd ever seen when i saw it (on my dad's old super 8 projector) as a kid... the whole thing about those helmets, the humans being made to betray to the daleks, the whole london-under-siege (very Blitz) atmosphere... brrr.

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

this is a bit more oblique than i meant it to be

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I watched a small part of the one that was on TV the other day and enjoyed the bit where the Quisling Philip Madoc was exterminated. Too much pedantry about the limitations of the Daleks can get tedious but it struck me on this occasion - why do they talk so slowly? .. even conveying simple instructions to each other takes forever.

Oak (small items), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 11:29 (twenty-one years ago)

the "chief" dalek (=the one in gold) seemed wound a bit tight to me! (i think he had an inkling that their masterplan wz not properly thought through)

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 11:34 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, one great piece of dialogue that i wrote down. they open the door on london 2150:

B: It's so deserted.
Dr: (looks around at rubble)
I would say decaying.
B: Maybe it's Sunday...

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

Went looking for the _Inferno_ dvd at the vid store up the street, and found both movies. Watching the first one now; great freaky pre-Star Trek sci-fi design going on. Big shiny sets, colored spotlights everywhere and blaring John Barry-type score. I'm disappointed that the sparkly and made-up Thals didn't become glam icons.

Peter Cushing's Doctor is a bit too doddering for my tastes, tho.

kingfish, Saturday, 20 September 2008 05:56 (seventeen years ago)

Oh yeah, and naturally the lighting is far, FAR better(and fitting) than what appeared during the regular show.

kingfish, Saturday, 20 September 2008 05:59 (seventeen years ago)

Hey Bernard Cribbins is in this one!

Thal in the Cult of Sbarro (kingfish), Monday, 22 September 2008 05:43 (seventeen years ago)

I watched Inferno this weekend on rental. It was quite good, especially the parallel world bits, but I still like Pertwee the least out of all the doctors.

treefell, Monday, 22 September 2008 09:03 (seventeen years ago)

It's odd; Pertwee is maybe the most annoying Doctor (INCLUDING Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy!) but has a lot of the best stories.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Monday, 22 September 2008 13:43 (seventeen years ago)

Pertwee annoying? Madness! More than Colin Baker? Institution time.
(NB I blame Baker's writers for his annoying-ness: I think it was a nice idea to have a regeneration-gone-wrong/unstable personality theme, but it wasn't done well)

James Morrison, Monday, 22 September 2008 23:47 (seventeen years ago)


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