Kyrgyzstan, anyone?

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I admit I've only been vaguely paying attention but it looks like longtime strongman Askar Akayev is out. I've sorta been wondering how long it would take the various Soviet-era dudes who installed themselves as presidents in the various Central Asian republics would last. Hmm.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 March 2005 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Eyewitness report via the BBC -- don't know what more coverage there might be online, in English at least.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 March 2005 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard the story the other night. Central Asian mayhem! But I was even more fascinated about the trouble in Baluchistan... Bugti tribesmen are attacking government soldiers in retaliation for the rape of woman doctor by a soldier... there will be some heavy fighting there shortly.

andy --, Thursday, 24 March 2005 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

See: Conflict increasing between Pakistani government and Baluchistan

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 24 March 2005 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

You forgot Poland. Oh wait, that was soooo five months ago.

What we want? Sex with T.V. stars! What you want? Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Thursday, 24 March 2005 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

This is looking more like a coup than a revolution, but let's see if they get proper elections off the ground. I've always want to visit Kyrgyzstan.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i wonder if his business cards read "longtime strongman"

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 24 March 2005 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

and now read "longtime strongman, ret."

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 24 March 2005 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

fascinating tv footage

Masked Gazza, Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

longo strongington, esq.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.ralphmag.org/BD/man-with-monocle235x398.gif

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 24 March 2005 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

It's funny how all these places where freedom is on the march are places where it would be handy for the trans-Afghanistan pipeline to expand into.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 25 March 2005 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone who's interested can google 'Baku Ceyhan TransCaspian route'.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 25 March 2005 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.gawker.com/news/media/cnn/index.php#this-just-in-were-morons-037152

Leon Bluth (Ex Leon), Friday, 25 March 2005 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)

wow.

also, is this the guy who has the statue of himself that faces teh sun?

Jimmy Mod Has Returned With Spices And Silks (ModJ), Friday, 25 March 2005 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess the ice palace in the desert won't be finished anytime soon.

I'd hate to be the kid in the National Spelling Bee that gets K-Y-R-G-Y-Z-S-T-A-N.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 25 March 2005 04:52 (twenty-one years ago)

"Kyrgyzstan is a country where tulips were originally [exported] to Europe."

I didn't know that!

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 25 March 2005 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks James.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 25 March 2005 05:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Kyrgystan is not a likely route for the TransCaspian Pipeline it being in the wrong direction and too mountainous. The Oil and Gas fields of Kazakstan are much further to the North, and in many cases further west. Some of the proposed routes take in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Iran whilst others cross the caspian and just take in Georgi and Armenia. Kyrgyzistan is a bit of a backwater. It's not strategically that important. To the South is the Altai, which is not particularly easy to cross even by men with kalashnikovs and mules let alone major armed forces, just one road into Turkmenistan. China is just as difficult to achieve, one high road to Kashgar. It makes a good listening post, for Chinese East Turkestan but not much else.

Ed (dali), Friday, 25 March 2005 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

blimey, what's the point in being a tin-pot dictatorship if you haven't got any strategic value...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 25 March 2005 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)

how else do you get to build big statues?

Matt (Matt), Friday, 25 March 2005 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd hate to be the kid in the National Spelling Bee that gets K-Y-R-G-Y-Z-S-T-A-N.
Fuck, I could've gotten that at age six!

I made it to the county spelling bee in my fifth grade year and the bloody lady pronounced "warily" as "wearily" and so I spelled "wearily" and they told me it was wrong. Wankers. I don't know why I never made it back there the next few times...I did go to the State Geography Bee twice though and would easily have made it a third time had I cared to do well on the test you had to take to end up in the Top 100 finalists. Anyone else have odd spelling or geography bee memories?

What we want? Sex with T.V. stars! What you want? Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Friday, 25 March 2005 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

...weird ...really weird: i'm trying really hard to recall how many girls o'boys from kyrgyzstan where in that twenty-plus "international group" i studied in for three years at the moscow university - and i don't fukkin' remember!
i do recall that there was one girl from armenia and georgia each; three people were from azerbaijan and three from turkmenistan; one uzbek and one tadjik and one guy from mordovia; also one chap from dagestan and abkhazia each; two from belorussia, one from moldova... two from latvia (my roommates); five peeps from 'stonia... and... a girl from kazakhstan joined us later on... hmmm! seems we did have two guys from kyrgyzstan, after all: one of them definitely quite older than the rest of us, and a younger guy of our age, yes! ...dind't mix much with either of them, i don't think. yeah, well, there went my chance to visit kyrgyzstan back then, already...

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 25 March 2005 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

t\'\'t have you ever seen "the north star"?

i like to imagine this thread title being the punchline to an imaginary bad joke

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 25 March 2005 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

amateur(ist) -- nope, i'm a-phearing i haven't seen "north star". (alas?)
perhaps that's why the "bad joke punchline" escapes me too.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 25 March 2005 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it's "north star" that's the movie made during wwii about Our Allies the Soviets and there's a scene where there's a parade of representatives of the ethnic groups of the ussr (usually doing a little dance number) and a MC who says stuff like, "and here's ahmad from kyrgzstan, he's swingin'!"

your litany of fellow students from various parts of the former ussr reminded me of this.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 25 March 2005 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

five years pass...

I just heard the BBC interview someone from the Open Society Institute, who explained that Kyrgyzstan is experiencing a pretty straightforward struggle between two different political groups, which is unlikely to spread inside or outside of Kyrgyzstan.

BBC: But surely this is going to contribute to some sort of ... regional instability.
OSI: Well, not really. Of course other countries are watching, but it's basically an internal affair.
BBC: But surely this is going to stoke, you know, simmering ethnic tensions.
OSI: Um ... no not really.

[email protected] (lukas), Thursday, 8 April 2010 07:34 (sixteen years ago)

Some great(?) pictures here:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/04/crisis_in_kyrgyzstan.html

nate woolls, Thursday, 8 April 2010 08:08 (sixteen years ago)

that's great xp

nakhchivan, Thursday, 8 April 2010 08:23 (sixteen years ago)

The US strategy of sucking up to the former dictator and his son to keep a US base there now appears to be backfiring a bit.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/08/world/asia/08bishkek.html?th&emc=th

curmudgeon, Thursday, 8 April 2010 13:30 (sixteen years ago)

holy fucking shit @ those pictures

a woman on our course is kyrgyz...she's just this week gone back there to complete her studies and has emailed us saying that the situation is unbelievable and that she can't leave her house for fear of death

wonder if the new regime will be less dictatorial than the last

lllljjjj (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 April 2010 13:37 (sixteen years ago)

You mean the way this regime was supposed to be less dictatorial than the regime before them?

Is that your Ayrshire bacon? (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 April 2010 13:38 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, that

lllljjjj (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 April 2010 13:39 (sixteen years ago)

Would be nice but...

http://www.opednews.com/populum/uploaded/flyingpig-2795-20090429-370.gif

Is that your Ayrshire bacon? (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 April 2010 13:43 (sixteen years ago)

wow brutal, amazing pics. feel sorry for the police, but then i know nothign about the situation.

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 April 2010 13:46 (sixteen years ago)

those are all fucking amazing pics; thanks nate.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 8 April 2010 14:24 (sixteen years ago)

five years pass...

I've got a bit of a yen to go to Kyrgyzstan, anyone done it?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 26 September 2015 17:15 (ten years ago)

Yeah, spent a couple of weeks in Bishkek for work a few years ago. Not much of a city tbh, you would probably have a better time travelling around the country. Issyk Kul lake is supposed to be lovely.

schlep and back trio (anagram), Saturday, 26 September 2015 21:01 (ten years ago)

Is some Russian essential, would you say? (I have none)

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 28 September 2015 10:42 (ten years ago)

If you like trekking, especially horse trekking, it's a gorgeous place. Also it feels legitimately off the beaten track (or did in 2008) which is rare these days.

0 / 0 (lukas), Monday, 28 September 2015 19:58 (ten years ago)

Yeah I was one over by gising the landscape - also, pretty cheap to get to from the UK at around £350.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 28 September 2015 22:38 (ten years ago)

A bit of Russian would certainly go a long way, yes.

schlep and back trio (anagram), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 12:26 (ten years ago)

No need for a visa if you are a UK citizen either, which is unusual for the region. I was considering going this year but didn't think i'd have enough time to do it justice. It looks like the kind of place you'd need to spend a couple of weeks.

It's worth keeping an eye on what's going on politically and maybe wait until the election is out of the way before booking anything. Be wary of internal flights too.

I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 12:56 (ten years ago)

Oh yeah if I did go it wouldn't be till the end of next year probably. Only a thought at the moment really.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 12:57 (ten years ago)

which is unusual for the region

no kidding. i spent a month in kyrgyzstan waiting for an uzbek visa that never came through.

oh and i almost got into fights three times in Bishkek:

- drunk guy messed with me when i was reading on a park bench, until he suddenly became my best friend

- teenager tried to frighten me in front of his friends and didn't like it when i laughed

- wrestled a cop who tried to get me into the back of his unmarked Mercedes for no apparent reason - i dragged him across a gravel parking lot, saying "there's been a misunderstanding! everything is fine!" while he tried to break my fingers, until we got outside my hostel and the owner heard the yelling, ran out in his socks and shooed me inside. i still feel bad about bringing this to his doorstep since i think the hostel was unlicensed.

there are a lot of unemployed Kyrgyz guys starting the day with a cigarette and a Baltika 9. although i heard maybe Russia was going to start investing in military bases there again, so maybe the situation has improved.

0 / 0 (lukas), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 17:28 (ten years ago)

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3168/2641268143_e1a1f40b17.jpg

Kyrgyzstan: beautiful

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3278/2606965242_f2097b7749.jpg

Yup

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3014/2632291175_0552355194.jpg

Chill bros

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3159/2575390032_025c687ce5.jpg

A German guy trying to set up Bishkek's first bike messenger service

0 / 0 (lukas), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 17:35 (ten years ago)

Does anybody need anything from the kitchen? Comfortable? Okay, so after Bishkek ...

0 / 0 (lukas), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 17:36 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

per ShariVari's recommendation : I'm interested in advice on the utility of competence in Russian or Turkish for a career in diplomacy. this would be for my daughter, presently in her second-to-last year of high school, looking to burnish her skills in advance of choosing a university.

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 17 October 2016 11:44 (nine years ago)

Yeah I would say if it's a toss-up between Russian, Turkish or (per your post in the other thread) German or Chinese, Russian would definitely be the one to go for. As far as Central Asia (a fascinating part of the world) goes, official business tends to be conducted in the country-specific language (i.e. Uzbek etc) but most people especially in the cities will also speak fluent Russian.

My Russian is very basic though and I have no idea how it stacks up against Chinese in terms of difficulty.

heaven parker (anagram), Monday, 17 October 2016 12:55 (nine years ago)

ok that's helpful! My daughter is intrigued by Russian (my uncle is Russian by way of Brazil) so it's kind of in the family.

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 17 October 2016 12:59 (nine years ago)


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