The Wal-Mart Supercenter

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finally got to one of these last night. they're kind of terrifying, also amazing.

first i should mention that it's located in what i guess might be termed some kind of 'exurban' [in this case suburban, i guess, but not even] hell; a several-mile strip of (right to left, coming from 'the center') car dealerships, fastfoodland, retail outlets, NOTHING (?? there's a mile-two gap where you think for a bit you've come clear, with assorted mostly run-down (but some surprisingly nice) residences along the parkway, even a sparse wood and river slicing through a green residential area that would look perfectly at place in any number of midwestern small towns, when you crest a hill and the same soft glow overcomes you again. another fastfoodland, then immediately on the right a vast parking lot, packed to the brim, a gigantic flat black platter, every car's, pickup's, minivan's, suv's passengers not guests but always-streaming never-adequate nourishment for the insatiable sprawling beast it feeds.

first human sighting: park, get out, the back of a scuzzy hairy fellow, very poor chap he, on his way in. second: young black man, small child in full cart, young mother tailing a bit behind, nagging father, "why did you put the candy in there!?" "i didn't put the candy in there!". third: two ersatz paris hiltons departing in black mustang (i try to catch their eye but they'll have none of it).

i am not greeted by any impoverished senior citizen as i enter this store, not by anyone at all: i suppose even that pathetic attempt at customer comfort and smallscale quaintness had to be chucked out the window when this buzzing behemoth was constructed. and buzz it does: lights camera action, in that order, and the mechanical drone of it all overcoming even delillo's 'shuffling feet' - should i have listened harder, or did i hear them and not know, their presence indistinguishable?

but everything is more present here. lights shine hard and overbright and seem to throw every human body into sharper relief - maybe it's just me and maybe it's corny but you see everyone as they are when you go to these places - no one puts on a face here, and why should they? grocery to the left, everything else to the right and in front. about 50 checkout counters, maybe more, maybe it just seems like it. the hotmeal section looks a modern equivalent to the breadline until i see a mom and two teeny-boppish daughters waiting anxious in the queue. but i'm not here for this, just wanted to run over and check it out, my friend's voice harkening back to me, "ever been to the walmart supercenter out on the north end of town? they have EVERYTHING there!", oh yeah, but how does their produce compare to...i'm here for a clock and a tv antenna; i'm moving house y'see, plenty of time for this other crap later. just outside the electronics dept is a big crate of 6 dollar dvds (hm, they're 2 bucks at the other one), all crap; this doesn't keep anyone (including me) from swarming to it like starved jackals to a rotting carcass. we search with unclean hands through the plastic muck, rapidly shuffling, overturning, tossing aside, picking-up-letting-go; a strikingly good-looking young guy in business attire smiling prominently displays showgirl-style (ironically? i really can't tell) 'volcano' to an older, unattractive woman (mother? surely), puts it back. i search the aisles twice-over for the goddamn antennas and fail. i get a cellphone call, barely hearing its ring; when i pick up i have to cover my left ear with my hand to hear the voice on the other end. no one is near, no single voice distinguishable or overwhelming. i ask the checkout girl if they have any antennas, expecting her to ponder for a few moments, maybe consult with a higher-up; her answer comes instant and affirmative, chirpy but mechanical: three aisles down, in front of those water coolers. now i'm slightly taken aback here, how can this be? doesn't everyone have cable nowadays?

i pick up a clock over by the jewelry [#1 purveyor: wal-mart] section, and head for the checkout. the choices here are overwhelming; picking a counter is every bit the game pekar said it is, and my skill-set's not exactly fine-tuned here, but i do pretty damn good, somehow lucking into an aisle with a sole occupant, a 30ish woman with the meek remnants of what was clearly an intimidating cartload on the conveyer belt in front of her. i'm actually a little perturbed that i've missed the opportunity to visually sort through her purchases; how much information can be gleaned from one's favored, needed, products, in a place like this? the checkout woman (40ish, black; just working here for a little friday night fun money, i'm sure) asks her for id: and again i'm a little taken aback. i don't see what the product in question is, but shit, it sure as hell ain't a girlie (er laddie, in this case? no. i dunno) mag, but i thought bentonville's puritanical policies would've forbade even cigs or booze from being sold in their name. guess not, and a sign near the counter confirms this: tobacco products only available in aisle 13.

by the time i'm checked through my guard is down and my senses deadened to the point that i noticed, or can recall, nothing of the remaining exit and walk to the car - well, nothing but a realization that there's no banking ops here; soon to come, i'm sure. i'm not gonna bother with a conclusion here; instead i'm leaving that to you, pained reader: what the hell do you make of these places? and let's try to not talk economics, for a change.

frederick d fredericker, Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

PLUS THEY DON'T SELL BEER! I spent 15 minutes lost in an Arkansas store before I asked a clerk, and was informend they don't sell beer. Never entered one since.

andy --, Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Louisiana Wal-Marts sell beer and liquor.

adam (adam), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

You were probably in a dry county, Andy.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah the walmart supercenters (do they still make regular walmarts?) definitely sell bear.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I was in a dry county, actually. Damn dry counties!

andy --, Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.animalfirm.com/bear.jpg

The Ghost of I'll Have A Six-Pack, Please (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm trying to think what walmart's instore radio station is called, it's pretty great

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

they have instore tv too, or so I read in the new yorker. (haha)

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i think they usually show headline news or something like that and tons of ads for crap for sale in the store - movie trailers, etc. the only time i've seen the video for "y control" on tv was in a walmart. i generally don't notice it though so they might not even have it anymore at our local walmart? i don't know. i definitely like the walmart radio though.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

their instore tv channel has almost as many viewers as the broadcast networks.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

o wait - i know they still have some tv chef dude they maybe is a real tv chef dude (not emeril though, i think) giving cooking tips on tvs in the produce department.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

many a bird meets its doom in the rafters of wal-mart supercenters. don't fly in there little birdies!

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Same goes for angels.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

in, uh, '95 i found the galaxie 500 On Fire cassette in the cut-out bin at a w-m supercenter. and some other cool, improbable finds. i miss the cut-out bins.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

So was the girl correct? Did you find an antenna you wanted?

nickn (nickn), Friday, 25 March 2005 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Welcome to my world, Fred. I take it you don't live in New Jersey, or you wouldn't be expressing any shock at all of this by now.

Then again, I was still floored by the giant mall in (near?) Cary, North Carolina (Chapel Hill/Raleigh-Durham area), largely because it's not only huge and all-encompassing, but it's actually sort of pleasant, which makes it even more frightening. The whole thing feels vaguely like a bustling downtown, and all the people who seemed conspicuously absent from downtown Raleigh and Chapel Hill appeared to be hanging there instead. Barnes and Noble, movies, restaurants, every store you can think of, etc.

I live in Jersey City right now, which is sort of like a cross between New Jersey and New York -- so I have a mall and a Target Greatland, but I can walk to both of them.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 25 March 2005 03:04 (twenty-one years ago)

in, uh, '95 i found the galaxie 500 On Fire cassette in the cut-out bin at a w-m supercenter. and some other cool, improbable finds. i miss the cut-out bins

not so improbable since rough trade went bankrupt a couple years before.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 25 March 2005 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)

And big supermarkets, Hurting!

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 25 March 2005 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I like to go grocery shopping at Wal-Mart Supercenters, as I'm sure you've heard me say time and time again. Thing is, though -- our local massive supermarket chain, it doesn't really have a great selection of certain items. I can say this with great authority because I've spotted stuff at the Wal-Mart Supercenter that I can't find at the supermarket locals here normally do their grocery shopping in; examples include Ocean Spray brand fresh cranberries in a bag, the Country Crock line of microwaveable side dishes, certain types of Marie Callender frozen dinners, that Butoni bagged frozen pasta meal deal, and really good store brand stuff, from canned corn and green beans to their line of paper towels to their sodas (the Sam's Club diet soda is almost as good as Diet Coke). NONE of this stuff is available at our supermarket. (Though Wal-Mart doesn't have the great premade potato salad our supermarket chain has.)

Another thing that makes grocery shopping at Wal-Mart Supercenter worth it to me -- it truly is a one-stop shopping center. If I'm running low on the CD-Rs I use, I can get a five-pack of them at the Supercenter for $2.97. If I need a mailer or a box of envelopes -- right there. If I need a couple of new towels -- there. Batteries, lightbulbs, pet food, tennis balls for my baby puppy, greeting cards (most of the time it's Hallmark, my favorite kind), a new oil filter for my vehicle, a watch, a calculator (recently replaced my TI-86 at a Supercenter), socks (also recently got me some new socks there), bras (wearing one purchased at a Supercenter right now), jeans, casual tops (I have nothing at all against wearing clothing bought at Wal-Mart) -- all of it and more I can get at Wal-Mart. Sure, it may sometimes feel a bit bland, generic, and sanitized, but when I get out of that store with multiple shopping bags filled with all kinds of things that my tight schedule wouldn't have normally allowed me to get in one weekend, that's a good feeling.

Surreal Addiction (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 25 March 2005 05:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Dee, you and I both know that H-E-B's BE OWNING SOUTH TEXAS.

Matt Chesnut, Friday, 25 March 2005 06:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Hon, you know where I live. H-E-B's also be crowded and hectic and hard to find parking at. ;) Plus -- Hill Country Fare??? Yeah, if I wanted the cheapest-quality stuff out there! Heh.

Surreal Addiction (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 25 March 2005 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

And big supermarkets, Hurting!

-- tokyo rosemary (rosemarygilber...), March 25th, 2005.

Indeed, the nightmare that is Shop Rite is a block from where I live.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 25 March 2005 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I liked that Shop Rite. Better than C-Town!

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 25 March 2005 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

It's mainly just how crowded it is at peak times. I've been known to occasionally take the bourgeois route and spend a little more for the calm of the A&P, but it's hurting my wallet.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 25 March 2005 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, is there a C-Town in Jersey City or are you another ex-New Brunswick-ite?

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 25 March 2005 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

"--when I get out of that store with multiple shopping bags filled with all kinds of things that my tight schedule wouldn't have normally allowed me to get in one weekend, that's a good feeling. "

*and cue jingle*

surreal addiction in the new wal-mart spot! all kids in tow. ha! might need to tighten up that copy though. needs more...jazz.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Friday, 25 March 2005 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

needs more nuro synths surely! ;)

teeny (teeny), Friday, 25 March 2005 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

*laughs* Kids? What kids? *looks around, panicked*

No, my schedule's tight for decidedly non-child-related reasons. Anyway -- ha. That DID sound a bit like a Wal-Mart ad spot, didn't it? Except for the whole "bland, generic, and sanitized" part. Which they could cut out in editing, yeah.

teeny: What in life CAN'T be bettered by nuro synths, I ask you? ;)

Surreal Addiction (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 25 March 2005 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i get panic attacks

anthony, Friday, 25 March 2005 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

The new Wal*Mart Supercenter in west Little Rock shocks people. Like, literally. The electrical lines all go through the floor and up little poles, and somehow, customers pushing their metal carts through the store get shocked on a regular basis. It's not even a walking-on-carpet-in-socks shock, but an actual dull, hair-raising electrical shock that gets you through the cart-handle.

Obviously, it's a mild shock or it would've made the national news that people's heads were exlploding at a retail center in Arkansas. However, the store has made attempts to correct the problem by attaching little metal chains to the wheels of the carts. Somehow, this grounds everything and people get shocked only every once in awhile now.

Still, for me, if it comes down to "One-Stop Shopping" where I get electrocuted or having to go to Kroger and the hardware store, I'll pick the latter.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 26 March 2005 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

There's a C-Town on Jersey Ave around 4th St, I think.

Ha peak times = all the time! I was too lazy to try walking to A&P tho.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 26 March 2005 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't really like the grocery part of Wal-Mart, it freaks me out. It just seems to be so much frozen meat

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 26 March 2005 02:50 (twenty-one years ago)

...frozen meat butchered elsewhere by non-union workers (natch).

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 26 March 2005 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I lost my dad somewhere in a walmart supercenter once and started to cry. The pathetic part is, I was 18.
Let's talk about the cheap booze and foreign cheese they have at Meijer, instead.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't really get meat at Wal-Mart. Since my mom and I don't eat that much meat, when we DO get meat, we end up getting it in bulk at Sam's Club, where there IS a butcher counter and the meat looks and smells fresh. We'll usually end up getting a package of hamburger meat, a package of chicken thighs, and a package of pork chops, and all three will last us about five weeks. I know it doesn't seem as though there should be a difference, but there is.

Isn't Meijer the chain that Wal-Mart got the inspiration to start off its Supercenters from? I heard that from a friend of mine who's from Michigan whose father works for Meijer. She told me all about that store in 1997, before the Supercenters came to town, and I was filled with awe that that many things could be purchased from one store. Fast forward some eight years and now it's sorta become vital to my life.

Surreal Addiction (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 26 March 2005 04:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait. Five weeks? I think it's more like two months. Or something. All I know is that we don't go shopping for meat all that often.

Surreal Addiction (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 26 March 2005 04:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i left michigan, which has Meijer's, and came to portland, where they have Fred Meyer. EEEEERIE!

kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Saturday, 26 March 2005 04:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Dee, I'm with you on where to buy meat. Wal-Mart's "fresh" beef is nasty and covered in some crap to keep it red. The ground beef at Sam's is very good quality, and fresh enough not to need any chemical assistance to look good.

Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 26 March 2005 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

If a thread is going to be called "The Wal-Mart Supercenter" it needs Jon Williams to be complete.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 26 March 2005 05:02 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
Filthy Wal-Mart: a Photo Essay

Upon entering around 8:30pm, I was completely blown away by how disgusting this entire store was, I had to go out to my car and grab my camera. I could not believe my eyes. This place was absolutely filthy.

It appeared that nothing had been cleaned, stocked or put back where it belonged for weeks. The shelves were empty and had every imaginable type of spilled product crusted on and completely ignored for what must have been several weeks.

The 'Produce' section was unspeakable. Empty bins with crusty scraps of produce were everywhere. Rotten fruit and wilted vegetables had random merchandise strewn about amongst them throughout their containers. A carton of orange juice sat on the shelf of Windex.

The rest of the store was just as bad. A bottle of dishwashing detergent sat next to cans of soup. Shelves of sugar were a granulated spilled mess. What appeared to be dry cat food was spilled underneath the shelf of fabric softener, and a partially consumed BlowPop had cemented itself to the shelf amongst the Febreze bottles.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 5 February 2007 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Were those pictures taken at the Wal Mart in Watts, circa 1968?

Spine Swine (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 5 February 2007 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Emmanuel D'Herrera, a 56-year-old former diplomat, once left his son's umbilical cord atop the Pyramid of the Moon in hopes that the boy would feel spiritually connected to the ruins. Mr. D'Herrera is now a thorn in Wal-Mart's side.

Mr. D'Herrera held a 12-day hunger strike, shedding 17 pounds from his already spare frame. He said Wal-Mart's building permits contained irregularities, a charge that Wal-Mart denied. The record has not been made public.

UART variations (ex machina), Monday, 5 February 2007 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

fuck walmart, don't shop there!

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 5 February 2007 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, okay, Fritz! Compelling argument. Smash the state!

Spine Swine (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 5 February 2007 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Come anticipate Inside Man with me. (3 new answers, 87 total)
The Wal-Mart Supercenter (5 new answers, 44 total)

parsed somehow as

The Wal-Mart Supercenter Inside Me

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Monday, 5 February 2007 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

SS, do you really need me to make the obvious arguments? I assumed everyone already knew Walmart's record on blocking unions + driving down wages, underfunding health insurance for employees, destruction of small businesses (and entire small towns for that matter), trade with China, environmental destruction, etc. etc. etc. Even evangelical Christians are denouncing Walmart's labour practices these days, it's not exactly smash the state territory. What are the arguments for shopping at Walmart?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 5 February 2007 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Costco is nice, and fucking overwhelming. Even their crate shipments of Wiis disappear w/in 12 hours.

kingfishy (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 5 February 2007 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh come now, Roger.

Wal-Mart has a history of discrimination against women: 1.6 million women are currently involved in a class-action suit against the company charging it with paying women less and offerring fewer opportunities for advancement. A CSU study found that on average at Wal-Mart female hourly workers earn around 37 cents less per hour than their male counterparts and female managers earn about $5000/year less than men. They make up 74% of the company's total workforce but represent only 33% of its managers.

They've also got a record of repeated labor violations. They've broken family leave laws on a number of occassions, they've got 53 simultaneous class action cases regarding Off-The-Clock work (and internal surveys have found that the majority of stores are not in compliance with Lunch Break laws), and they've been sued numerous times for breaking child labor laws by having minors do things like heavy lifting and transport.

They've got a record of pollution and using suppliers that are known polluters, like Murphy Oil--who runs all their gas stations--and its record of emitting 20 times the legal level of sulfur dioxide. They were fined $170,000 by the state of Georgia for letting runoff from their construction sites run into state waters and polluting the water supply. A few years later they settled with the state of Connecticut for 1.5 million for polluting state waters over 7 years at 20 stores. They paid another half million to the federal government for violating air pollution regulations in eleven states.

This is to say nothing of their threatening squeeze of local governments, their desecration of Mayan ruins, or their absurdly inaccessible employee health care practices.

There are plenty of reasons not to shop at Wal-Mart, dude.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Monday, 5 February 2007 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

xposts 'n shit.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Monday, 5 February 2007 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Fritz - Well, that explanation certainly makes a better case than "fuck walmart, don't shop there!"

Arguments FOR shopping there? Well imagine for a second you're not an upper middle class 'let them eat cake' kinda person. You're poor, live off social security, disability, or welfare. There isn't a Crate and Barrel within 100 miles of your home, and you don't know anyone who owns a Jaguar. You don't live in Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Boston, Los Angeles or San Francisco, ie no 'bodegas' or all night drug stores. It's midnight and your baby needs milk, your kitchen lightbulb just burned out, and you're all out of toothpaste. Where do you go?

I love your "even evangelical Christians" line, too - like, even THOSE hapless barbarians take exception to WalMart's business practices.

Typical ivory tower, gated community, patronizing bullshit.

Spine Swine (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 5 February 2007 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

Now that you've done your sanctimonious closing line (do they teach you that at contrarian school?), care to respond to anything I've said?

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Monday, 5 February 2007 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

For the record, I try to avoid shopping there because I like to support small businesses blah blah blah and agree with much of what is said above. But come on, man, not everyone is lucky enough to be able to choose to spend their lives 'making a stand.'

Spine Swine (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 5 February 2007 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

not everyone is lucky enough to be able to choose to spend their lives 'making a stand'

Obviously. You don't think this is a bit of a strawman?

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Monday, 5 February 2007 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

My mention of evangelicals was in response to your "smash the state" comment - you characterized the anti-Walmart arguments as being Anarchist, and I replied that even people with very traditional values are calling Walmart on their insitituionalized disregard for their employees. Your assumption that I'm an 'upper middle class "let them eat cake" kinda person' is wrong too. I was raised by a single self-employed mom in rural Maine in a house heated by a wood stove, and I've been flat-broke and unemployed for long stretches of my adult life. And I don't know anyone who owns a Jaguar. Why I'm responding to your bizarre personal attack is beyond me but in any case - nice job avoiding anything substative in your reply in favor of nastiness.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 5 February 2007 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

and tell the ex-employees of the Walmart in Jonqiere, Quebec that was shut down after they unionized your advice about taking a stand

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 5 February 2007 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

...which we have a thread about, incidentally

kingfishy (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 5 February 2007 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

Roger, I will pay $5 for you to record yourself saying "Go away, 'batin!"

milo z (mlp), Monday, 5 February 2007 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't seen that movie yet, but once I do, I will indulge you. for free. FWIW, I think of myself on these threads more as the eagle from the muppet show, ie 'this is disgraceful, you should all be ashamed,' etc.

Youtube link, perchance?

Fudge Tunnel of Love (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 5 February 2007 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://consumerist.com/consumer/3rd-ss-division-totenkopf/walmart-nazi-tshirt-watch-week-11-233239.php

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 5 February 2007 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

what movie?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 5 February 2007 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

I think Milo is referring to Idiocracy, but I'm not certain.

Spine Swine (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

I am surprised photo essay guy wasn't shut down for taking photos. I always get busted when I pull out a camera in a store.

Wal-Mart sprcntrs have the worst produce EVER. However, they are the only place I know that sells collard greens and BooBerry/FrankenBerry/Count Chocula all times of the year. For $2 a box no less!

Abbott (Abbott), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

Meijers does too, and they do this sort of thing so much better.

N.i.c.o.l.e (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

youtube comment boxes make me so sad

geoff (gcannon), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

comment boxes in general are pretty depressing

N.i.c.o.l.e (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

I have never even heard of Meijers!

Abbott (Abbott), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

YAY MEIJERS! No one knows it outside the Midwest, I don't think...?

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Most of my life I have lived in towns so tiny and podunk that they feel like a "real town" when they finally get a Wal-Mart, and before that Wal-Marts are a highly anticipated legend. I have never witnessed where an incoming Wal-Mart was mourned because it shut down all the lovely local businesses, mainly bcz there weren't any.

Abbott (Abbott), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

I hate the store tho, but I still shop there (except for produce) due to owning approx. $0.00.

Abbott (Abbott), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7408/smartnetworkwalmarteditej3.jpg

I can't explain why, but I've been laughing at this picture all morning.

Pleasant Plains, Monday, 22 September 2008 17:26 (seventeen years ago)

She's an alien and she's trying to unscrew the bottom.

"These...strange...Terran...contraptions!"

pj, Monday, 22 September 2008 17:33 (seventeen years ago)

Now that I've spent some time in Eastern Washington state, where Wal*Marts are aplenty (while non existant in greater Seattle aside from Renton -- and Puyallup and Marysville if those count as greater Seattle), my feelings are a little more neutral than before.

From the POV of their grand plan and corporate mission, I still despise them as much as I ever did, but their effect on a small town's local economy doesn't necessarily fall into the gutting-the-local-character-and-economy-of-the-precious-small-town-OH-SHIT-CUE-JOHN-COUGAR-MELLENCAMP stereotype *nearly* as much as most people think -- the latter of which probably never stepped into a Wal*Mart...

...which is understantable, as it's completely fair for someone in a big city to criticize a company for its practices even if that person has never stepped inside its store *because* that company purposely locates its stores just outside the incorporated city limits of more rural towns.

I was just providing insight, now that I've stepped into Wal*Marts for the very first time in my life as of two months ago, because I had to.

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 22 September 2008 17:50 (seventeen years ago)

I love threads started by and mostly commented on by people who find huge stores novel and worthy of controversy. I think there are probably four or five of these things within a thirty minute drive of me right now and at least three Super Targets.

mh, Monday, 22 September 2008 18:06 (seventeen years ago)

Keep in mind that this is the same board that boasts a "Can you drive a car?" poll.

Pleasant Plains, Monday, 22 September 2008 18:27 (seventeen years ago)

and demonizes anyone who doesn't want to live in a high-density city.

Granny Dainger, Monday, 22 September 2008 18:46 (seventeen years ago)

In the year since I've been home, the Wal-mart in my town closed down (leaving a vacant building on a huge lot), and they built a new Wal-Mart Supercenter two miles away, thus regaining the sales tax relief the county grants to "new businesses". Haven't been into the big new one yet, but I have been to the slightly less new and slightly closer Target.
My town is small and has this sales tax relief incentive, so the number of people shopping here in a day or a week is definitely bigger than the number of people LIVING here.

Maria, Monday, 22 September 2008 18:53 (seventeen years ago)

There are so many city signs in my state that say "Wal-Mart Drive", leading up to empty storefronts or second-hand chains, it's ridiculous.

Pleasant Plains, Monday, 22 September 2008 18:54 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

Map showing the flow of new Wal-Marts over time

I didn't realize that the Wal-Mart in my hometown in SE Missouri was the 40th Wal-Mart built out of 3000+. Explains why our modest downtown was completely desolate from the earliest I can remember, I suppose.

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 01:09 (sixteen years ago)

wal-marts in china are a spectacle, they are fucking massive, usually with two or more floors

dyao, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 01:52 (sixteen years ago)


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