I might be taking the train cross country

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I am considering going across country by train to go to a friend's wedding and to visit my grandmother, who is very sick in hospital.

Any suggestions or recommendation on how to do this? I would be going, you know, coach, as I am dirt poor.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 26 March 2005 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)

you'd probably have to take the empire builder from seattle to chicago to new york. i've done the latter half of it, it's fun.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 26 March 2005 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

you probably don't have AAA because you don't drive right? if you did, you'd get an amtrak discount.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 26 March 2005 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

It's Empire Builder to Chicago and then Lakeshore Ltd to NYC.

What is the food situation.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 26 March 2005 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

oh right. there should be okay food the whole way.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 26 March 2005 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you going to get a sleeper? That adds - minimum - $600

Remy (x Jeremy), Saturday, 26 March 2005 02:50 (twenty-one years ago)

he said he's going coach. i think you can still get stuff in the dining car if you're coach. if not, you're fucked - you get food but it's crappy snack bar food.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 26 March 2005 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Going coach. And I can get things in the diner car (and can dawdle in the lounge). But I am vegetarian.

Also I assume I'm going to go 3 days without showering? Which is not the end of the world.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

It will be $300 round trip.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

(Why do I always seem to start threads on Friday evenings after nearly everyone has gone to bed?)

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

have you ever been camping before? you can go 3 days. you might have some layover time, too.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Assuming it goes as scheduled, the only major layover looks like Chicago on the way back for a morning. I don't have a problem going 3 days without showering, I am just trying to visualize the trip.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Sponge bath, sponge bath, sponge bath. No need to smell bad. I took a train from New Orleans to New Haven once a long time ago. I found it miserable.

SpongeBath, Saturday, 26 March 2005 06:05 (twenty-one years ago)

The three times I had long cross country train rides in my life all shared a similar theme: 1)I ride the train to my desintation 2)something bad happens 3)I ride the train back.

I'm afraid to ride trains anymore, really. But I'm sure it's only me that's jinxed, not anyone else.

And the ride doesn't have to be miserable. Bring your tunes, find some decent people to chat with, read a book, look out the window. Write.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 26 March 2005 06:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I am bracing myself for the worst, hoping for the best.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 26 March 2005 06:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Try to stock up on non-perishable meals if you can... A loaf of bread, some preserves, and some peanut butter might keep you going for a day or two on the cheap.

Economy size snack packs would be great. Dried fruit, trail mixes, that kind of stuff would be great. I'd done the Coastal Starlight from Seattle to L.A. before... and even I broke down, and did the meal thing in the dining cart. You get a shitty meal (basically the one vegetarian option) and it still costs around $12 per meal or so. Never again. If i have to do a multi-day train on coach, I'm bringing mega-bags of food for it.

Definitely bring some cash though in case you do want to buy snacks. Having no cash on a train really really sucks, as there are no ATM facilities.. except maybe for small layovers at certain train stations.

donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 26 March 2005 06:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i have taken the train from st. louis to new mexico three times, from portland to seattle a bunch of times, from nyc to albany a bunch of times, and chicago to nyc once. it is fun. you will meet interesting (not weird) people. you will have a good time. do not be afraid.

and yes, bring some of your own food, preserved, if you can.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 26 March 2005 07:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Three days of pickled tomatoes!

I expect I will get a lot of reading and listening done but who knows. Maybe there will be a cute guy with room in his berth to share.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 26 March 2005 07:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, bring a lot of bottled water if you can. It will be heavy carrying it the first time each way, but you will obviously not have to carry that water once you get off the train. They charge $1.00 or more for a bottle of water on the train.. (although, if you really want to rough it, you can bring a plastic cup and drink from the bathroom sink)

donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 26 March 2005 07:54 (twenty-one years ago)

well, i'm not cute or gay, but had you taken this trip in october of '02, i would've let you had my extra berth, dude. i wasn't paying for the sleeper car!

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 26 March 2005 07:55 (twenty-one years ago)

some of those amtrak bathrooms have non-potable water, be careful.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 26 March 2005 07:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Noted. How long are the stops usually? Enough to fill the Nalgene?

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 26 March 2005 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)

in the big cities, yeah.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 26 March 2005 08:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Does Minot count as a big city?

I assume coach seats don't have access to outlets, right?

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 26 March 2005 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)

outlets?

You can roam the entire train if you want, outside the conductor's coach. This is how I found out that, no longer how long a train ride was, I would never in hell pay for a sleeper car, given how horribly tight and pod-like they are.. because I went through the sleeper car sections in order to sneak into the VIP cart to get some free boutique cheese and crackers.

donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 26 March 2005 09:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Some coach seats have outlets, some don't--it depends on the car. I've always found the red-interior ones to be least likely that your seat will have an outlet near it. The blue-interior cars are newer, so they have outlets at every seat, not just at seemingly random intervals.

Allyzay Subservient 50s-Type (allyzay), Saturday, 26 March 2005 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, uh, dude shoot me an email if you want my discount # for Amtrak. I was just trying to look it up myself to see what kind of discount you'd get on this particular ride (like, an actual #) but their booking system is down. I get a 15% discount though reading their fine print part of your trip might not qualify--exactly what station-to-station would you be using?

Oh hell fuck it, my student advantage discount # is 6088514110699404. The rest of y'all can use it too, til it expires in October.

Allyzay Subservient 50s-Type (allyzay), Saturday, 26 March 2005 10:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I took Amtrak in coach class from NYC to Austin (via Chicago) a few times, and it was not a pleasant experience. There were lots of crying babies, kids that wouldn't shut up, loud families, etc, no matter where I sat. Take that with the discomfort of not being able to lie down for a few days (I don't know how well you sleep in chairs, but for me it's difficult), crap food from the diner car, and what I got was a huge mental note to myself to take an airplane next time. Don't get me wrong, train travel is a thrill, but it should be taken in short doses.

57 7th (calstars), Saturday, 26 March 2005 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

train travel >>>> airplane. in november i did nyc -> chicago -> los angeles and mostly found it really relaxing and unstressful. i only met one creepy guy, and once i changed seats he left me alone.

i brought energy bars and fruit to munch on. i didn't want to pay for the dining car food and the one snack bar item i tried to eat was vile. i had a real meal during the layover in chicago.

bathing? well, there's a sink, and soap, and a door that locks.

i gotta admit that sleeping is difficult if you have someone sitting next to you whose shoulder you would feel uncomfortable using as a pillow. but you can put your seat back. pretty good leg room too.

Blossom in Paris (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 26 March 2005 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah, at one point a cop and a drug-sniffing dog got on to inspect our bags. so don't bring any drugs!

Blossom in Paris (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 26 March 2005 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I am planning on bringing vicodin to help with the sleeping (and any pain from sitting in chairs). But it's prescription, so I don't think that qualifies as "drugs".

Ally, thanks, I'll let you know if that works!

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 26 March 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i mean it's no renfe (or any other european rail system for that matter), but it's not THAT bad.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 26 March 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I sleep badly enough as it. And I am trying to set myself up to be pleasantly surprised.

But someone showed me this and if I wasn't excited before...

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 26 March 2005 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Why are you taking the train exactly? I would think you could fly for about the same amount of money. You're going to be on the train for 4 days. Why not temp for a couple of days to raise funds for an airplane ticket - ya know opportunity costs and all that.

Or is this an adventure thing?

supercub, Saturday, 26 March 2005 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

You are seriously asking me whether I'd rather work and fly or not work and take the train?

I will be on the train for 6 days, actually. I have a lot of reading to catch up with. If I could temp and earn the $400 it would cost to fly, I would spend that money on other things, like paying off debt. I would probably have to work all six of those days to make the $400.

I probably would have bought a plane ticket a while back, except I didn't know my grandmother was going to be this sick, and I thought I could get a free flight. (And if I couldn't get a free flight, I wasn't that upset about missing the wedding -- it's great that I can go there though!)

I also don't really like flying, and am curious how the train compares.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 26 March 2005 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Alright then. Enjoy the trip!

supercub, Saturday, 26 March 2005 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I took the train NYC to Portland and really loved it. I brought my own food, a blanket and a pillow.Also brought my own booze, and would have a cocktail in the evening, sitting in the lounge car (but you have to be sneaky about it.)I met some nice people, read a lot, and mostly enjoyed the scenery, once we left Chicago. One weird thing you get is "train legs" - it takes a day or so to get accustomed to being on terra firma.
I also brought witch hazel and some other astringent type stuff for face washing, and cleansing pads for general washing. (I took the bus x country before this, and knew what I needed). I felt much more prepared then many of my fellow travelers,and it made the trip way more pleasant. In fact, I often shared the booze and the witch hazel - at different times:)You'll love it.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Sunday, 27 March 2005 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Shilshole Bay

i hope people call this "shithole bay."

Blossom in Paris (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 27 March 2005 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)


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