This is the thread where we talk about the crazy historical shit that happened on the day you were born

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Was doing research for some thing or another and I found out by happenstance that the day I was born -- September 20th, 1977 -- was the day Happy Days aired the infamous "Fonzie jumps over a shark tank on water skis" episode. I don't know whether to be proud or terrified.

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Sunday, 27 March 2005 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Dec. 6

Former Republican candidate for California senate Michael Huffington (Ariana's husband, or ex) came out of the closet on my birthday! He also admitted that he "might" be a Democrat. !!!

Also, Orange County, CA went bankrupt in 1994 on my birthday. I mean, I know my government ties and my excess were a dangerous mixture back then, but man, little did I know.. sorry, dudes.

donut debonair (donut), Sunday, 27 March 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, sorry, on the day I was born? yikes, sorry Stupor.

donut debonair (donut), Sunday, 27 March 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

a extensive google search demonstrates that i was the big item that day

also i am exactly one day older than mick hucknall :(

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 27 March 2005 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i was born on the same day as rachel leigh cook. maybe that's why i don't find her attractive.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 27 March 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I was born the same day as Ryan White, the young guy who died of AIDS due to a blood transfusion from AIDS tainted blood when he was 18. Also athlete Richard Krajicek was born the same day.

What happened ON December 6, 1971 that was newsworthy...

Bangladesh became free acc. to India, officially:

Bengali Independence Is Recognized by India
December 6, 1971
NEW DELHI, Dec. 6 -- India formally recognized the government of Bangla Desh today as the government of East Pakistan. Prime Minister Indira Gandhi told cheering members of Parliament that the government had decided to recognize the Bengali rebels, who won a national majority in Pakistan-wide elections a year ago, "after careful consideration."

Also, something important happened in Pakistan:

Faced with these difficulties, President Yahya ceded power to Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Chairman of the Pakistan Peoples Party that had won the majority votes in the 1970 elections in West Pakistan. On the request of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, on December 6, 1971, Yahya Khan installed a civilian setup at the Centre and Nurul Amin, a prominent Bengali politician who was against Mujib-ur-Rahman, was made the Prime Minister. Z. A. Bhutto was made Deputy Prime Minister on the same day. Nurul Amin remained Prime Minister till December 20, 1971, the day when Bhutto took over as the civilian Chief Marshal Law Administrator.

donut debonair (donut), Sunday, 27 March 2005 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

And Don McLean's "American Pie" was released!

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Sunday, 27 March 2005 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The municipality Steinkirchen has adopted a flag by the vote of the municipal council of November 2nd 1982. The flag shows three stripes of the colours Green-White-Red; it has to be used with the arms on it. The Government of Upper Bavaria approved the adoption of the flag on February 8th 1983.

In actual use are hanging flags in the proportions 10:3; the arms cover 50% of the flag width. The flag is used during municipal festivities (e.g. Holzlandvolksfest) and church holidays.

ihttp://www.ed-wappen.de/images/stein-f2.gif

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 27 March 2005 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Lance Corporal Philip D James, 22, 1 Para, and Private Roy A. Bedford, 22, 2 Para, killed when their four man patrol in countryside near
Crossmaglen was ambushed near the border by IRA gunmen. Both were members of the Vigilant Platoon.

Markelby (Mark C), Sunday, 27 March 2005 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

first london marathon

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 27 March 2005 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Chronological List of Bigfoot Sightings

Location: Murphysboro, IL
Witness: Christian Baril (4), Randy Creath, Cheryl Ray
Incident: Christian saw 'big white ghost' in yard; 10 mins later in neighboring yard Randy & Cheryl saw 7-ft dirty white Bigfoot with glowing pink eyes standing watching them. Went off through trees and left a strong 'sewer' odor. Tracked by police and dog; slime found on weeds.

The Horse of Babylon (the pirate king), Sunday, 27 March 2005 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I was born the same day as uber-session drummers Vinnie Coliauta and Hal Blaine.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 27 March 2005 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Who has the most noise birthday?

BOATPEOPLEHATEFUCK (ex machina), Sunday, 27 March 2005 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

3 October 1981:

I share a birthday with: Steve Reich, Gwen Stefani, Tommy Lee, Linday Buckingham, Stevie Ray Vaughnn, Al Sharpton, Chubby Checker, John Perry Barlow, Gore Vidal, Thomas Wolfe, James Herriot, James M. Buchanan (the economist)

OJ TRIAL ENDS
1990 - The re-unification of Germany. East Germany ceases to exist.
1964 - Underdog debuts on CBS.
1942 - Germany tests the first V-2 rocket
42 BC - First Battle of Philippi: The Triumvirs Mark Antony and Octavian fight an indecisive battle with Caesar's assassins Brutus and Cassius. Although Brutus defeats Octavian, Antony defeats Cassius.

deaths:
1967 - Woody Guthrie, Amerian folk musician (b. 1912)
2000 - Benjamin Orr, bassist and part-time lead singer for The Cars (b. 1947)
2004 - Janet Leigh, actress (b. 1927)

BOATPEOPLEHATEFUCK (ex machina), Sunday, 27 March 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Joy Division played a gig with the buzzcocks on my birthday but nothing else even remotely interesting seems to have happened.

kate/thank you friendly cloud (papa november), Sunday, 27 March 2005 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Men at Work's "Down Under" hit number 1

Seuss, Sunday, 27 March 2005 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

REO Speedwagon played Budokan
Reagan issued an EO for the interdiction of illegal aliens on the 'high seas'

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 27 March 2005 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i was born ten years to the day after the watergate break-in!

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 27 March 2005 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

The Game and I are born on the same day!

Remy (x Jeremy), Sunday, 27 March 2005 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

http://i.cnn.net/si/si_online/covers/images/1980/0505_large.jpg
this issue of SI came out...

there was a failed Iranian hostage rescue mission

the Vatican issued a "DECLARATION ON EUTHANASIA"

Craig David was born on my bday A YEAR AFTER ME

charleston charge (chaki), Monday, 28 March 2005 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the most significant thing that happened outside politics on December 6, 1971 (my b-day once again, sorry) was that Grand Funk Railroad ROCKED Munich, Germany on the first of two nights there.

donut debonair (donut), Monday, 28 March 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

On the date of my birth (26 October 1986), The Disney Channel made its Chinese debut and Jeffrey Archer stepped down as Deputy Chairman of the Conservative Party over paid prostitute allegations. How amusing. American sprinter Jackson Scholz died, too.

Stories from 26 October:
In 1951, Churchill won the general election. In 1959 the world glimpsed the far side of the Moon. The South Korean president was assassinated in 1979. Israel and Jordan made peace in 1994. The gunfight at O.K. Corral was held in 1881. Peace is restored between Scotland and Charles I of England in 1640 with the Treaty of Ripon. Nine hundred years before that, an earthquake struck Constantinople.

26 October birthdays:
Hillary Rodham Clinton (1947)
Pat Sajak (1947)
Natalie Merchant (1960, I think?)

26 October deaths:
Alfred the Great (899)
Elizabeth Cady Stanton (1902)
Prince Hirobumi Ito (1909 - assassinated)

What we want? Sex with T.V. stars! What you want? Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Monday, 28 March 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

The picture form the beginning of chapter 20 in England's Dreaming was taken on my birthday.

Ooh! And in The American Friend Dennis Hopper talks into a tape recorder and mentions the date is December 6, 1976.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Monday, 28 March 2005 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

On the actual day I was born (18 December 1972), the USA began one of its heaviest military attacks, bombing Hanoi in Operation Linebacker II. In other years, Steven Spielberg, Brad Pitt and Christina Aguilera were born, and Kirsty McColl was killed.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 28 March 2005 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

On the day when I emerged from my mother's womb to face the outside world, unembilicalled and gasping for my first breaths, the first television-monitored tunnel in the USA opened in West Virginia.

Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 28 March 2005 02:55 (twenty-one years ago)

November 22, 1982: I am born

November 22, 1963: Kennedy gets shot.

latebloomer: AKA Sir Teddy Ruxpin, Former Scientologist (latebloomer), Monday, 28 March 2005 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

dec 21 1978

venera 12 lands on venus
john wayne gacy arrested
pavn invades cambodia
basque separatist argala assassinated
turkish fascists kill two teachers
kimmie nipples born

it's all coming together now.

brian braindeath (badwords), Monday, 28 March 2005 03:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I was born on the day the Earth was created.

Dr. John Lightfoot, (1602 - 1675), an Anglican clergyman, rabbinical scholar, and Vice-Chancellor of the University of Cambridge had already arrived at an estimate [for the time of the creation] of 4004-OCT-23 BCE, at 9 AM.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 28 March 2005 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

And besides that, a lot of bombs and revolutions and shootings and such.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 28 March 2005 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/22/default.stm

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 28 March 2005 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

birthdays:

Johnny Carson
Chi Chi Rodriguez
Pele
Michael Crichton
Dwight Yoakam
Sam Raimi
Weird Al Yankovic

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 28 March 2005 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.famousbirthdays.com/jul.html#22

they forgot to list george clinton, though.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 28 March 2005 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)

jimmy carter officially nominated (for the first time) as democratic candidate for president (happy birthday gerald ford)

candian house of commons votes to abolish the death penalty (#1 song on the canadian charts: "afternoon delight")

three rivers michigan has all time biggest diurnal temperature spread (high of 97, low of 45) (these are getting hard to top)

andrew s (andrew s), Monday, 28 March 2005 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

On December 29, 1979:

Libya and Syria were both designated by the U.S. State Department as State Sponsors of Terrorism.

The Soviet-influenced, communist PDPA party continued its rule over Afghanistan as Babrak Karmal, the leader of the Parcham faction, appointed himself president and prime minister of the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan and general secretary of the PDPA.

Wings (you know, the Paul McCartney group) gave their final concert performance for some live benefit for Kampuchea.

U.S. Congress passed the DOE [Department of Energy] National Security and Military Applications of Nuclear Energy Authorization Act of 1980, which created the WIPP [Waste Isolation Pilot Plant].

Diego Luna, one of the co-stars of that Y Tu Máma Tambíen movie, was born. (Yeah, he and I are exactly the same age.)

Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski wrote a coded journal entry pertaining to his third unsuccessful attempt at a bombing, which was to take place mid-flight on American Airlines Flight 444 on November 15, 1979. This journal entry was later introduced into evidence during his 1997 trial.

Surreal Addiction (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

This took me awhile to research. And now I understand my fascination with the history of global terrorism.

Surreal Addiction (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Mt. St. Helen's erupted...uh a couple days later. Best I could do.

Allyzay Subservient 50s-Type (allyzay), Monday, 28 March 2005 05:40 (twenty-one years ago)

02 February
Sid Vicious died.

Katie. (Argh.), Monday, 28 March 2005 06:37 (twenty-one years ago)

The final overdubs for the Beatles' "Let It Be" were recorded.

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 28 March 2005 06:50 (twenty-one years ago)

robert plant was injured in a car accident with his wife maureen on august 4th that altered all zep's touring plans and the Presence album, apparently. i work with jimy page's daughter every now and again, (and she's wonderful) and i have a weird feeling she may have mentioned being the only person in the car crash who escaped without a scratch.

stevie (stevie), Monday, 28 March 2005 08:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I found nothing, except this Life Magazine cover from my birthday:
http://www.oldlifemagazines.com/covers/cv071566.jpg

and I also learned that I share a birthday with Jennifer Saunders darling.

dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 28 March 2005 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

August 7, 1968

In rough Googledom order:
Oakland Athletic beat NY Yankees 4-3 at Yankee Stadium.
Miller Creek Demonstration Forest, MT: Unit East-3 was clearcut, slashed and prescribed burned.
Bomb placed aboard Bahamas ship Caribbean Venture in the US (Orlando Bosch).
Soviet Ambassador Stepan Chervonenko met with Alexander Dubcek. They had a nice chat about rightist and antisocialist forces.
The Who played at the Schaefer Music Festival, Wolman Skating Rink, Central Park, New York.
Takes 1 through 46 of George Harrison's "Not Guilty" are recorded. There would be 102 takes before it is decided not to release the song for "The Beatles" double LP.
Philanthropist, San Fran socialite, and patron of the arts Alma Emma Spreckels [née de Bretteville] died of pneumonia, aged 87.
The New Pavilion Theatre, Morley, West Yorkshire - having closed as a cinema two weeks earlier - opened as Star Bingo.


Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 28 March 2005 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I share a birthday with Dax Shepard, Sophie Wilcox, and the singer from Hoobastank.

One day younger than me: Winnie from The Wonder Years, James Marsden, Thomas Bangalter

But! My mother was born on the day of the Battle of Iwo Jima.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 28 March 2005 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

August 7th 1974

Nixon was just about to resign and had a family meeting that day to tell them of his decision. Great photos here http://millercenter.virginia.edu/programs/prp/nixon/photos/nara/

High wire artist Philippe Petit electrified New York City -- and the world -- with his early morning walk between the twin towers

http://www.illusiongenius.com/WTC-cross.jpg

J.GEILS BAND frontman Peter Wolf marries Oscar-winning
actress Faye Dunaway

Recorded August 7, 1974:
Christmas Dream ( with The London Boy Singers )
from the original 1974 Columbia Pictures film soundtrack "The Odessa File"
Music by Andrew Lloyd Webber and lyrics by and Tim Rice
with German lyrics by André Heller
Produced by Andrew Lloyd Webber and Pete Spargo
London recordings conducted by Anthony Bowles and Alan Doggett
Recorded in London and New York ( RCA's Studio C )

Born:
Jeff Buckey, tackle for the Miami Dolphins
Philippe De Rouville, Victoriaville, NHL goalie for the Pittsburgh Penguins

Vicky (Vicky), Monday, 28 March 2005 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Nothing special happened on my actual birthdate (8/21/79) except for the miracle of my birth.

However, Hawaii gained statehood on my -20th B-day, and I share a birthday with Wilt Chamberlain, Count Basie, Melvin Van Peebles, Shimon Peres, Kenny Rogers, Joe Strummer, Kim Catrall & Alizee (I don't know who this last person is).

Sadly, the most interesting people DIED on my birthday--Elizabeth Bathory, Leon Trotsky, and sadly (because it ruined my 24th B-day), Wesley Willis.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 28 March 2005 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Alizee (I don't know who this last person is).

You're just angling for the animated Alizee pictures, aren't you? Go on, admit it.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 28 March 2005 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

September 6th, 1983: Martina Navratilova requests political asylum in New York.

Sep sixth is also the day that the Mayflower set out from Plymouth (1620), the day that Swaziland was declared independent (1968), and the day of Princess Di's funeral (1997).

Shared birthday with Tim Henman, Roger Waters, and the Marquis de Lafayette; death-day of James II and Kurosawa (duuuuude).

lundy fastnet irish sea (cis), Monday, 28 March 2005 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Nothing special happened on my actual birthdate (8/21/79) except for the miracle of my birth.

a)stop getting dates wrong, Americans!

b)But 100 years earlier!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 28 March 2005 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Alien abduction seems to be the big news of my b-day.

http://ufocasebook.com/highwayi84abduction.html

uptoeleven (uptoeleven), Monday, 28 March 2005 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

August 14th, 1980:
Lech Wałęsa and colleagues at shipyards began strike actions, which later led to the founding of the Solidarity movement in Gdansk, Poland.
In 1947
http://atb.away.com/images/book_covers/125/21168.jpg
1945: Japan accepts terms of surrender.
1935: Social Security Act passed.
1898: Gold discovered in Yukon, starting Klondike Gold Rush.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 28 March 2005 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Oct. 6, 1972

- A train crash in Saltillo, Mexico left 208 dead.

- In music news, Patto played a concert in Western Springs, Auckland, New Zealand, with Joe Cocker.

- An episode of the TV series "Odd Couple" entitled "The Pen is Mightier Than the Pencil" aired.

- George W. Bush's National Guard unit joined a "24-hour active alert mission to safeguard against surprise attack" in the southern United State, a time when Bush did not report for duty, according to his pay records.

- And there's this entry from the Nixon tapes:

Conversation No. 108-1

Date: October 6, 1972

Time: Unknown between 8:55 am and 9:28 am

Location: Cabinet Room

Floyd B. McKissick, Sr., Charles Hurst, Samuel C. Jackson, W. O. Walker, Robert J. Brown, Clark MacGregor, Frederic V. Malek, Frank C. Herringer, Paul R. Jones, and Stanley S. Scott met; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

[Personal Returnable]

[Duration: 6m 35s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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The President entered at 9:06 am

Introductions

Photographs

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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[Duration: 2m 24s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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Opportunities

-Education

Blacks

-The President’s accomplishments

-Record

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

[Personal Returnable]

[Duration: 2m 9s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

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Presentation of gifts

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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[Duration: 2m 1s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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Recording was cut off at an unknown time before 9:28 am

o. nate (onate), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

On August 20, 1978, the Cinema Rex, a movie theater in Abadan, was locked from the outside and set on fire, resulting in 430 deaths. To this day it is not entirely clear what happened, but it was widely believed that the government of the Iranian shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi purposely set the theater ablaze to kill several dissidents who were hiding inside. This event sparked mass demonstrations against Pahlavi's government, which was overthrown six months later by Islamic fundamentalists and their supporters. (see Iranian Revolution)

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

"On the night of August 9, 1969, Manson directed some members of the Family to commit murder. These were Charles "Tex" Watson, Patricia Krenwinkel, and Susan Atkins, at or around midnight entered the home of actress Sharon Tate, wife of director Roman Polanski, who was eight months pregnant, and murdered her along with friend, Hollywood hairstylist Jay Sebring, and houseguests Abigail Folger, the coffee heiress, and her lover Wojciech Frykowski (frequently misspelled as Voytek Frykowski). Before entering the house, they had shot to death Steven Parent, an 18 year old youth who was leaving the property and had unwittingly seen the intruders. The family had also intended to kill novelist Jerzy Kosinski who was also supposed to be at the house, but Kosinski was stranded in New York due to a missed connecting flight.Linda Kasabian was the look-out and driver, and later received immunity for submitting evidence against the group. She told Manson, "I'm not like you, I can't kill" and evinced shock and horror at finally seeing the pictures of the killings in court. The victims had been stabbed ferociously many dozens of times, and words were left on the walls in their blood."

dave q (listerine), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_30

My favorites being:
1938 - Orson Welles broadcasts his radio play of H. G. Wells's The War of the Worlds, causing a nationwide panic.
1961 - Nuclear testing: The Soviet Union detonates the hydrogen bomb Tsar Bomba over Novaya Zemlya; at 58 megatons of yield, it is still the largest nuclear device ever detonated. Nikita Kruschev announces that the scientists had planned to make it 100 megatons, but had reduced the yield so as to avoid breaking all the windows in Moscow.
1974 - "The Rumble in The Jungle": Muhammad Ali knocks out George Foreman in Kinshasa, Zaire to regain the World Heavyweight Boxing championship.

Also, part of the MC5's Kick Out The Jams was recorded on Oct. 30.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Toyah Willcox released her "Sheep Farming in Barnet" EP on 3rd August 1979.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

The first page of the first chapter of this book:

http://www.cyberattic.com/stores/missglass/items/215929/catphoto.jpg

Begins on the very day I was born.

Also, Mariner 10 was launched.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

October 21, 1967

http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/web/20051021-pentagon-vietnam-protest-washington-dc-lyndon-johnson-jerry-rubin-david-dellinger-allen-ginsberg-yippie-robert-mcnamara.shtml

100,000 march on Pentagon, attempt to levitate it (or at least stop the war.)

I heard Princess Di died while on acid in the desert (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 27 June 2009 06:42 (sixteen years ago)

DECEMBER 28, 1957

USSR performed an atmospheric nuclear test on this date.

"my day" column by eleanor roosevelt for 12/28/57

HYDE PARK—I don't know how other people felt about the report given by the President and Secretary of State John Foster Dulles on the NATO conference, but I was not very happy about it.

It is reasonable to expect that the Russians give "clear evidence of integrity, sincerity and a spirit of conciliation," but their leaders might make that same statement about the West.

The President said that during the conference "not once did I hear any slightest hint of sabre rattling or of aggressive intent," and he added that the people of the West were ready "to make the necessary sacrifices to build their strength". Might that statement contradict the first statement?

It is true, I think, that we must have strength, but I think the less we talk about it and the less we stress our military preparations and our missile program, the less we will give the Soviets material for propaganda. Our words in this country have not been centered too much on the peaceful aspects of negotiating a peace.

It is we who have refused to negotiate with the Soviet Union. True, we think they need to show a clear evidence of integrity, but how do they do it? And how do we convince them that we really want to negotiate when we refuse to negotiate their latest offers?

It seems to me that the basic fact we have to face is that if we go on indefinitely arming for war, then war will be the inevitable result. And in this case war means annihilation for the peoples of the world.

Therefore, whether we trust each other or not, it seems to me there is only one thing to do, and that is to go on negotiating. It may seem at times that we are simply standing still, but the mere fact that we talk may bring about a little more understanding between us.

I personally would be happy to see this question discussed constantly in the United Nations. That need not prevent discussion outside of the U.N. as well, but it might mean a little more understanding among other nations of the world about the real intentions of both the United States and Western Allies and the Soviets and the Iron Curtain countries.

We had better face the fact that there is no chance for peace unless somewhere we begin to show confidence in each other, and I would agree that it is difficult to believe that the leaders of the Soviet government really want peace except on their own terms.

If we accepted their terms, they would certainly include recognition of a Communist world, which we cannot accept. If, however, we could agree that within the areas that are free or Communist we would make no effort to make any changes and that both of us would compete openly, not underhandedly and not by force but by persuasion, for the uncommitted areas of the world, then disarmament could really begin.

If either side was found not to be keeping its word and sending in undercover agents, the world would be the judge. Public opinion would be so strongly against the nation that violated an agreement of this type that we could really count on some years of peace and gradually achieve mutual disarmament.

Without continuing negotiation, however, I see very little hope, and I hope we will not wait until we build confidence, which neither of us can have at present.
E. R.

m coleman, Saturday, 27 June 2009 13:40 (sixteen years ago)

This is the only interesting thing I've found so far:


1976: Notting Hill Carnival ends in riot
More than 100 police officers had to be taken to hospital after clashes at the Notting Hill Carnival in west London.

Most were released after treatment but at least 26 have been detained overnight for observation or further treatment.

Around 60 carnival-goers also needed hospital treatment after the clashes which led to the arrest of at least 66 people.

The trouble is believed to have started after police tried to arrest a pickpocket near Portobello Road on the main carnival route.

Several black youths went to the pickpocket's aid and within minutes the disturbance escalated.

The police were attacked with stones and other missiles.

They armed themselves with dustbin lids, milk crates and wire fencing and charged the rioters.

Selwyn Baptiste, Carnival committee member
At one stage a group of black youths were seen moving up Westbourne Park road smashing windows.

Gangs of white youths were also said to have been involved in the violence.

One witness, Raymond Hunter, who lives in Westbourne Park Road said he saw a police van set alight.

"The two policemen managed to get out of the van and fled. The gang then turned the van over and set fire to it," Mr Hunter said.

The disturbances effectively put an end to the annual celebration of Caribbean culture.

Police sealed off roads and closed pubs in the area as well as shutting down Ladbroke Grove underground station in an attempt to contain the violence.

In the past, the carnival - now in its 10th year - has been largely peaceful in spite of tensions with police.

A member of the Notting Hill Carnival Development Committee, Selwyn Baptiste, said they had been optimistic after the first day of the festival passed off peacefully.

"We had no reason to suppose it would be any different today. This was supposed to be about fun and love - not violence," Mr Baptiste said.

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 27 June 2009 14:26 (sixteen years ago)

(July 23rd)

On this day in 1984, 21-year-old Vanessa Williams gives up her Miss America title, the first resignation in the pageant's history, after Penthouse magazine announces plans to publish nude photos of the beauty queen in its September issue. Williams originally made history on September 17, 1983, when she became the first black woman to win the Miss America crown. Miss New Jersey, Suzette Charles, the first runner-up and also an African American, assumed Williams' tiara for the two months that remained of her reign.

the shock will be coupled with the need to dance (jim), Saturday, 27 June 2009 15:35 (sixteen years ago)


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