This afternoon, my boss gave me a letter inviting me to a disciplinary hearing in a few days' time.
Although the accusation against me (from a colleague with a grudge) is something I could fight (and perhaps win), would it be better for all concerned if I just quit now to avoid any formality?
I can take or leave the job, but I'd rather leave with a fair reference than with a disciplinary black mark by my name.
Can't find any help on the net. Any suggestions or advice would be incredibly welcome.
― Plod, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Aaron A., Tuesday, 29 March 2005 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)
If this is motivated by a grudge, the person is probably going to magnify your conduct, overstate his/her claims against you and (unless they are quite Machiavellian) probably overstep themsleves. The good thing about hewing to the truth is that the truth sounds true most of the time. Since you can take or leave the job, you should have minimal trouble staying calm and sensible as a witness on your own behalf. Try to stay emotionally cool.
It is worth having your version on the record and not having malicious lies follow you about for several years.
― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)
How did your boss seem when he gave you the letter? Did you know anything about the accusation before your boss spoke to you? have you discussed it with him/anyone else before you got the letter?
Remy's right, you need to give us more details
― Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)
any half-decent company should have a proper dispute resolution policy that they should have given you with your letter, so at least you know what the form will be, you certainly should ask for this if they haven't given it to you.
i assume it's too much to hope that you work in a unionised environment/are a member? remember you are entitled to take a friend/union rep to any hearing (i don't know much employment law, but i do know that). obviously, in the slim chance you are a member, go straight to steward, do not pass go...
the most important thing is to WRITE DOWN EVERYTHING that you can remember about the incident (or what you were doing/who saw you etc if it's entirely fabricated), and how this rebutts whatever the specifics are of the complaint. i'd advise doing this now, the longer you think about stuff the more subjective/angry you will get. alternatively you tell someone else and get them to write it down. if you've got a good friend to take with you, and you can face it, get them to cross-examine you and try and pick holes in what you're saying (of course this depends who will be conducting the hearing, are they a bastard or alright?).
also remember writing bad references is very bad form, also it depends where they're starting on the disciplinary procedure. if this is basically a formalised way of sacking you, then that's entirely different from a first warning (i'm assuming the use of the phrase "gross misconduct" in the title means it's pretty serious), but i'm also assuming they haven't suspended you.
they should give you reasonable time to get your case together (a week would be standard).
um, i think that's basically disciplinary 101. let me have a dig around and see what i can find.
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.worksmart.org.uk/rights/viewquestion.php?eny=242
and the full TUC leaflet on your rights at disciplinaries:
http://www.tuc.org.uk/tuc/rights_alone.cfm
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)
anyway, best of luck ;)
(william, it seems a pretty reasonable question, no trolling afoot so far, unless i'm missing something)
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Plod, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)
okay don't ask that. but the previous advice is perfect.
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)